HILARIOUS!!! FOLKS YOU GOT TO READ THIS by the self proclaimed forum teacher and say HE refutes false doctrine!!! LOL!
Posted : 15 Aug, 2022 12:18 PM
So tinyinstudydavid (littledavid) says on this forum about his hang up and subject he calls 'soul sleep' and it goes like this, his number #5 QUOTE from the thread - 'REFUTING FALSE TEACHINGS ON THE SANCTUARY MESSAGES '
QUOTE from that thread - 1 Thessalonians 4:14 -- "Them also which sleep in Jesus will God BRING WITH HIM". then tinydavid says - 'This means that when Christ returns to resurrect believers >>>bodies<<< at the second coming, He >>>brings our spirits and souls<<< with Him from heaven' LOL!
BUUUUUUUWWWWWWAAHHHHHAHAHA! Is that HOLLLYWOOD BALONEY or what dear readers??? Yeah, bone head tinydavid just said we are like a 'triune' in a human form being(s) now, 3 persons separate, so not only does he claim we have a separate 'spirit' and 'soul' that goes to heaven in two, supposedly NEVER dying he claims, BUUUUUT that same 'spirit' and 'soul' person(s) is not DEAD at all but ONLY the BODY is DEAD in that 'triune' of person(s) back on earth! LOL! Two go to heaven NEVER DYING first and one stays here on earth, a BODY >>>in<<< the ground/hell/grave DEAD! LOL! So according to the bone head tinydavid in what goes on between the spinning sphere of his ears here in teaching, in his PAGAN CULT teaching that is, the Messiah Yah'shua returns with this double package of 'soul' and 'spirit' of two separate humans (but supposedly are one?) AND He puts those TWO in a BODY He takes from Hell the grave and the OLD BODY, changes it into NEW BODY and is ALIVE again, resurrected!!! LMBO! Folks you just cannot make this stuff up on how utterly STUUUUUUUUUUPID tinydavid is in LOGIC and COMMON SENSE! GEESH, let alone CONTEXTUAL study! He brings NEW MEANING to the WORD STUPID!!! LOL!
So tinydavid teaches the original LIE of satan in Genesis 3:4, that you 'shall not surely DIE' because according to tinydavid, two of each of us, 'soul' and 'spirit' (LOL!) goes to heaven and NEVER EVER DIES to begin with, his devil says thru tinydavid, and the other singular BODY part stays in hell the grave site to ROT! Think about this dear readers! WHATS THE POINT IN COMING BACK TO EARTH to get just a DEAD DECAYED BODY, then to change it, when the saints have ALREADY been in heaven supposedly according to tinyinstudydavid, enjoying fellowship and worshipping the CREATOR YHWH??? BUUUUT it gets soooooo much WORSE for bone head tinydavid, BECAUSE if the saints are in heaven in double selves ONLY as a 'soul' and 'spirit' then how can they speak with no mouth, see with no eyes, hear with no ears and touch, hug, breath, eat of the tre of life etc etc with NO BODY!!!???
BUUUUUUUWWWWWWAAHHHHHAHAHA!!! BUSTED tinydavid, YOU ARE A FOOL dude!
What does Paul have to say of what a HUMAN consists of as a UNIT and ONE and made in >>>whole<<< by our Creator YHWH???
1 Thessalonians 5:23 'And the very YHWH of peace sanctify you wholly; and I pray YHWH >>>your whole spirit and soul and body<<< be preserved blameless unto the coming of our Messiah Yah'shua. '
BUSTED false teacher tinydavid!!!
spirit and soul and body preserved where says Paul? In hell the grave site when He returns for His saints obviously as one unit! GEESH its all too simple to understand when you STUDY >>>CONTEXT<<< of Scripture! So where does Paul separate the supposed two other human(s) of 'soul' and 'spirit' that are suppose to be in heaven and NEVER DID DIE according to CULTIST tinydavid (LOL!) and then reunites those two with a third HUMAN body??? LMBO! Anybody see a problem with the CULT false teacher tinydavid now???
Conclusion: Leave the CULT teaching movement of littledavid's false teaching today on this forum!
HILARIOUS!!! FOLKS YOU GOT TO READ THIS by the self proclaimed forum teacher and say HE refutes false doctrine!!! LOL!
Posted : 15 Aug, 2022 02:11 PM
@Teddyhug
What is the rapture of the church?
The word rapture does not occur in the Bible. The term comes from a Latin word meaning “a carrying off, a transport, or a snatching away.” The concept of the “carrying off” or the rapture of the church is clearly taught in Scripture.
The rapture of the church is the event in which God “snatches away” all believers from the earth in order to make way for His righteous judgment to be poured out on the earth during the tribulation period. The rapture is described primarily in 1 Thessalonians 4:13–18 and 1 Corinthians 15:50–54. God will resurrect all believers who have died, give them glorified bodies, and take them from the earth, along with all living believers, who will also be given glorified bodies at that time. “For the Lord Himself will come down from heaven, with a loud command, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet call of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first. After that, we who are still alive and are left will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And so we will be with the Lord forever” (1 Thessalonians 4:16–17).
The rapture will involve an instantaneous transformation of our bodies to fit us for eternity. “We know that when he [Christ] appears, we shall be like him, for we shall see him as he is” (1 John 3:2). The rapture is to be distinguished from the second coming. At the rapture, the Lord comes “in the clouds” to meet us “in the air” (1 Thessalonians 4:17). At the second coming, the Lord descends all the way to the earth to stand on the Mount of Olives, resulting in a great earthquake followed by a defeat of God’s enemies (Zechariah 14:3–4).
The doctrine of the rapture was not taught in the Old Testament, which is why Paul calls it a “mystery” now revealed: “Listen, I tell you a mystery: We will not all sleep, but we will all be changed—in a flash, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, the dead will be raised imperishable, and we will be changed” (1 Corinthians 15:51–52).
The rapture of the church is a glorious event we should all be longing for. We will finally be free from sin. We will be in God’s presence forever. There is far too much debate over the meaning and scope of the rapture. This is not God’s intent. Rather, the rapture should be a comforting doctrine full of hope; God wants us to “encourage each other with these words” (1 Thessalonians 4:18).
HILARIOUS!!! FOLKS YOU GOT TO READ THIS by the self proclaimed forum teacher and say HE refutes false doctrine!!! LOL!
Posted : 15 Aug, 2022 02:21 PM
GET OFF MY THREAD if your not here to participate in the discussion, stop changing the topic you confused woman!
This thread is about tinydavid's false teaching that people are supposedly made up of 3 separate persons, a 'soul' , a 'spirit' and a BODY!!!??? And supposedly according to tinydavid the 'soul' and the 'spirit' of a human NEVER DIE but ONLY the body dies! GOT IT NOW mooncakes and the TOPIC!?
QUOTE of littledavids teaching - 1 Thessalonians 4:14 -- "Them also which sleep in Jesus will God BRING WITH HIM". then tinydavid says - 'This means that when Christ returns to resurrect believers >>>bodies<<< at the second coming, He >>>brings our spirits and souls<<< with Him from heaven' LOL
HILARIOUS!!! FOLKS YOU GOT TO READ THIS by the self proclaimed forum teacher and say HE refutes false doctrine!!! LOL!
Posted : 15 Aug, 2022 02:51 PM
NOW mooncake and readers, lets look at the CONTEXT of Scripture of the lone verse -1 Thessalonians 4:14, that the CULT and FALSE TEACHER tinydavid twists for his false doctrine and agenda of the state of the dead and the leaves it out of CONTEXT of Scripture of WHERE the saints are when Messiah Yah'shua returns to get His saints!
1 Thessalonians 4:13-18
13 But I would not have you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning them which are asleep, that ye sorrow not, even as others which have no hope.
So Paul is talking about the saints that are sleeping in hell the graves and not to have sorrow for them, Right?
14 For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him.
Paul is saying, So come resurrection day, those that are asleep (death is nothing more than a sleeping time!) will be raised from the graves and YHWH will bring them with Him when He takes them back to heaven with Him at that time!
15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.
Paul goes on to describe in more detail - those 'which are >>>alive<<< and remain' from the ones that were sleeping the sleep of death and have risen first, then the alive will be resurrected afterward, next verse!
16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
18 Wherefore comfort one another with these words.
There is NOT a single mention in all these CONTEXTUAL verses together on the subject that says YHWH is bringing ANY HUMAN from heaven to earth, or in verse 14 of any kind of 'soul' or 'spirit, let alone claiming humans have a 'soul' or a 'spirit; that cannot die and is brought form heaven to earth to be put in a body!
HILARIOUS!!! FOLKS YOU GOT TO READ THIS by the self proclaimed forum teacher and say HE refutes false doctrine!!! LOL!
Posted : 15 Aug, 2022 03:35 PM
@Hugs
The most difficult thing about the Christian concept of the Trinity is that there is no way to perfectly and completely understand it. The Trinity is a concept that is impossible for any human being to fully understand, let alone explain. God is infinitely greater than we are; therefore, we should not expect to be able to fully understand Him. The Bible teaches that the Father is God, that Jesus is God, and that the Holy Spirit is God. The Bible also teaches that there is only one God. Though we can understand some facts about the relationship of the different Persons of the Trinity to one another, ultimately, it is incomprehensible to the human mind. However, this does not mean the Trinity is not true or that it is not based on the teachings of the Bible.
The Trinity is one God existing in three Persons. Understand that this is not in any way suggesting three Gods. Keep in mind when studying this subject that the word “Trinity” is not found in Scripture. This is a term that is used to attempt to describe the triune God—three coexistent, co-eternal Persons who are God. Of real importance is that the concept represented by the word “Trinity” does exist in Scripture. The following is what God’s Word says about the Trinity:
1) There is one God (Deuteronomy 6:4; 1 Corinthians 8:4; Galatians 3:20; 1 Timothy 2:5).
2) The Trinity consists of three Persons (Genesis 1:1, 26; 3:22; 11:7; Isaiah 6:8, 48:16, 61:1; Matthew 3:16-17, 28:19; 2 Corinthians 13:14). In Genesis 1:1, the Hebrew plural noun "Elohim" is used. In Genesis 1:26, 3:22, 11:7 and Isaiah 6:8, the plural pronoun for “us” is used. The word "Elohim" and the pronoun “us” are plural forms, definitely referring in the Hebrew language to more than two. While this is not an explicit argument for the Trinity, it does denote the aspect of plurality in God. The Hebrew word for "God," "Elohim," definitely allows for the Trinity.
In Isaiah 48:16 and 61:1, the Son is speaking while making reference to the Father and the Holy Spirit. Compare Isaiah 61:1 to Luke 4:14-19 to see that it is the Son speaking. Matthew 3:16-17 describes the event of Jesus’ baptism. Seen in this passage is God the Holy Spirit descending on God the Son while God the Father proclaims His pleasure in the Son. Matthew 28:19 and 2 Corinthians 13:14 are examples of three distinct Persons in the Trinity.
3) The members of the Trinity are distinguished one from another in various passages. In the Old Testament, “LORD” is distinguished from “Lord” (Genesis 19:24; Hosea 1:4). The LORD has a Son (Psalm 2:7, 12; Proverbs 30:2-4). The Spirit is distinguished from the “LORD” (Numbers 27:18) and from “God” (Psalm 51:10-12). God the Son is distinguished from God the Father (Psalm 45:6-7; Hebrews 1:8-9). In the New Testament, Jesus speaks to the Father about sending a Helper, the Holy Spirit (John 14:16-17). This shows that Jesus did not consider Himself to be the Father or the Holy Spirit. Consider also all the other times in the Gospels where Jesus speaks to the Father. Was He speaking to Himself? No. He spoke to another Person in the Trinity—the Father.
4) Each member of the Trinity is God. The Father is God (John 6:27; Romans 1:7; 1 Peter 1:2). The Son is God (John 1:1, 14; Romans 9:5; Colossians 2:9; Hebrews 1:8; 1 John 5:20). The Holy Spirit is God (Acts 5:3-4; 1 Corinthians 3:16).
5) There is subordination within the Trinity. Scripture shows that the Holy Spirit is subordinate to the Father and the Son, and the Son is subordinate to the Father. This is an internal relationship and does not deny the deity of any Person of the Trinity. This is simply an area which our finite minds cannot understand concerning the infinite God. Concerning the Son see Luke 22:42, John 5:36, John 20:21, and 1 John 4:14. Concerning the Holy Spirit see John 14:16, 14:26, 15:26, 16:7, and especially John 16:13-14.
6) The individual members of the Trinity have different tasks. The Father is the ultimate source or cause of the universe (1 Corinthians 8:6; Revelation 4:11); divine revelation (Revelation 1:1); salvation (John 3:16-17); and Jesus’ human works (John 5:17; 14:10). The Father initiates all of these things.
The Son is the agent through whom the Father does the following works: the creation and maintenance of the universe (1 Corinthians 8:6; John 1:3; Colossians 1:16-17); divine revelation (John 1:1, 16:12-15; Matthew 11:27; Revelation 1:1); and salvation (2 Corinthians 5:19; Matthew 1:21; John 4:42). The Father does all these things through the Son, who functions as His agent.
The Holy Spirit is the means by whom the Father does the following works: creation and maintenance of the universe (Genesis 1:2; Job 26:13; Psalm 104:30); divine revelation (John 16:12-15; Ephesians 3:5; 2 Peter 1:21); salvation (John 3:6; Titus 3:5; 1 Peter 1:2); and Jesus’ works (Isaiah 61:1; Acts 10:38). Thus, the Father does all these things by the power of the Holy Spirit.
There have been many attempts to develop illustrations of the Trinity. However, none of the popular illustrations are completely accurate. The egg (or apple) fails in that the shell, white, and yolk are parts of the egg, not the egg in themselves, just as the skin, flesh, and seeds of the apple are parts of it, not the apple itself. The Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are not parts of God; each of them is God. The water illustration is somewhat better, but it still fails to adequately describe the Trinity. Liquid, vapor, and ice are forms of water. The Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are not forms of God, each of them is God. So, while these illustrations may give us a picture of the Trinity, the picture is not entirely accurate. An infinite God cannot be fully described by a finite illustration.
The doctrine of the Trinity has been a divisive issue throughout the entire history of the Christian church. While the core aspects of the Trinity are clearly presented in God’s Word, some of the side issues are not as explicitly clear. The Father is God, the Son is God, and the Holy Spirit is God—but there is only one God. That is the biblical doctrine of the Trinity. Beyond that, the issues are, to a certain extent, debatable and non-essential. Rather than attempting to fully define the Trinity with our finite human minds, we would be better served by focusing on the fact of God’s greatness and His infinitely higher nature. “Oh, the depth of the riches of the wisdom and knowledge of God! How unsearchable his judgments, and his paths beyond tracing out! Who has known the mind of the Lord? Or who has been his counselor?” (Romans 11:33-34).
HILARIOUS!!! FOLKS YOU GOT TO READ THIS by the self proclaimed forum teacher and say HE refutes false doctrine!!! LOL!
Posted : 15 Aug, 2022 04:03 PM
This thread is NOT about your CULT 'trinity' teaching you IDIOT so get off my thread if your not going to participate in the subject you disrespectful and do your own!!!
From now on I'm going to flood your threads with off topic subjects sop you know how it feels!
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Posted : 15 Aug, 2022 04:05 PM
@Teddyhug
Instead of ignorant insulting others jokes!
Gain some Knowledge.
What does it mean
born again Christians
The classic passage from the Bible that answers this question is John 3:1-21. The Lord Jesus Christ is talking to Nicodemus, a prominent Pharisee and member of the Sanhedrin (the ruling body of the Jews). Nicodemus had come to Jesus at night with some questions.
As Jesus talked with Nicodemus, He said, “‘I tell you the truth, no one can see the kingdom of God unless he is born again.’ ‘How can a man be born when he is old?’ Nicodemus asked. ‘Surely he cannot enter a second time into his mother’s womb to be born!’ Jesus answered, ‘I tell you the truth, no one can enter the kingdom of God unless he is born of water and the Spirit. Flesh gives birth to flesh, but the Spirit gives birth to spirit. You should not be surprised at my saying, “You must be born again”’” (John 3:3-7).
The phrase "born again" literally means "born from above." Nicodemus had a real need. He needed a change of his heart—a spiritual transformation. New birth, being born again, is an act of God whereby eternal life is imparted to the person who believes (2 Corinthians 5:17; Titus 3:5; 1 Peter 1:3; 1 John 2:29; 3:9; 4:7; 5:1-4, 18). John 1:12, 13 indicates that being "born again" also carries the idea of "becoming children of God" through trust in the name of Jesus Christ.
The question logically comes, "Why does a person need to be born again?" The apostle Paul in Ephesians 2:1 says, "And you He made alive, who were dead in trespasses and sins" (NKJV). To the Romans he wrote, "For all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God" (Romans 3:23). Sinners are spiritually “dead”; when they receive spiritual life through faith in Christ, the Bible likens it to a rebirth. Only those who are born again have their sins forgiven and have a relationship with God.
How does that come to be? Ephesians 2:8-9 states, "For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith—and this not from yourselves, it is the gift of God—not by works, so that no one can boast." When one is saved, he/she has been born again, spiritually renewed, and is now a child of God by right of new birth. Trusting in Jesus Christ, the One who paid the penalty of sin when He died on the cross, is the means to be "born again." "Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation: the old has gone, the new has come!" (2 Corinthians 5:17).
If you have never trusted in the Lord Jesus Christ as your Savior, will you consider the prompting of the Holy Spirit as He speaks to your heart? You need to be born again. Will you pray the prayer of repentance and become a new creation in Christ today? "Yet to all who received him, to those who believed in his name, he gave the right to become children of God— children born not of natural descent, nor of human decision or a husband’s will, but born of God" (John 1:12-13).
If you want to accept Jesus Christ as your Savior and be born again, here is a sample prayer. Remember, saying this prayer or any other prayer will not save you. It is only trusting in Christ that can save you from sin. This prayer is simply a way to express to God your faith in Him and thank Him for providing for your salvation. "God, I know that I have sinned against you and am deserving of punishment. But Jesus Christ took the punishment that I deserve so that through faith in Him I could be forgiven. I place my trust in You for salvation. Thank You for Your wonderful grace and forgiveness—the gift of eternal life! Amen!"
Have you made a decision for Christ because of what you have read here?
HILARIOUS!!! FOLKS YOU GOT TO READ THIS by the self proclaimed forum teacher and say HE refutes false doctrine!!! LOL!
Posted : 15 Aug, 2022 04:08 PM
AGAIN NOW readers, lets look at the CONTEXT of Scripture of the lone verse -1 Thessalonians 4:14, that the CULT and FALSE TEACHER tinydavid twists for his false doctrine and agenda of the state of the dead and then he leaves it out of CONTEXT of Scripture of WHERE the saints are when Messiah Yah'shua returns to get His saints!
1 Thessalonians 4:13-18
13. But I would not have you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning them which are asleep, that ye sorrow not, even as others which have no hope.
So Paul is talking about the saints that are sleeping in hell the graves and not to have sorrow for them, Right?
14. For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him.
Paul is saying, So come resurrection day, those that are asleep (death is nothing more than a sleeping time!) will be raised from the graves and YHWH will bring them with Him when He takes them back to heaven with Him at that time!
15. For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.
Paul goes on to describe in more detail - those 'which are >>>alive<<< and remain' from the ones that were sleeping the sleep of death and have risen first, then the alive will be resurrected afterward, next verse!
16. For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
17. Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
18. Wherefore comfort one another with these words.
There is NOT a single mention in all these CONTEXTUAL verses together on the subject that says YHWH is bringing ANY HUMAN from heaven to earth, or in verse 14 of any kind of 'soul' or 'spirit, let alone claiming humans have a 'soul' or a 'spirit; that cannot die and is brought form heaven to earth to be put in a body!
What a false teacher this tinydavid is!!! Its so obvious!
Yeah, bone head tinydavid just said we are like a 'triune' in a human form being(s) now, 3 persons separate, so not only does he claim we have a separate 'spirit' and 'soul' that goes to heaven in two, supposedly NEVER dying he claims, BUUUUUT that same 'spirit' and 'soul' person(s) is not DEAD at all but ONLY the BODY is DEAD in that 'triune' of person(s) back on earth! LOL! 
Two go to heaven NEVER DYING first and one stays here on earth, a BODY >>>in<<< the ground/hell/grave DEAD! LOL! 
So according to the bone head tinydavid in what goes on between the spinning sphere of his ears here in teaching, in his PAGAN CULT teaching that is, the Messiah Yah'shua returns with this double package of 'soul' and 'spirit' of two separate humans (but supposedly are one?) AND He puts those TWO in a BODY He takes from Hell the grave and the OLD BODY, changes it into NEW BODY and is ALIVE again, resurrected!!! LMBO! 
Folks you just cannot make this stuff up on how utterly STUUUUUUUUUUPID tinydavid is in LOGIC and COMMON SENSE! 
GEESH, let alone CONTEXTUAL study! 
He brings NEW MEANING to the WORD STUPID!!! LOL! 
goes to heaven and NEVER EVER DIES to begin with, his devil says thru tinydavid, and the other singular BODY part stays in hell the grave site to ROT! Think about this dear readers! WHATS THE POINT IN COMING BACK TO EARTH to get just a DEAD DECAYED BODY, then to change it, when the saints have ALREADY been in heaven supposedly according to tinyinstudydavid, enjoying fellowship and worshipping the CREATOR YHWH??? 
BUUUUT it gets soooooo much WORSE for bone head tinydavid, BECAUSE if the saints are in heaven in double selves ONLY as a 'soul' and 'spirit' then how can they speak with no mouth, see with no eyes, hear with no ears and touch, hug, breath, eat of the tre of life etc etc with NO BODY!!!??? 
So where does Paul separate the supposed two other human(s) of 'soul' and 'spirit' that are suppose to be in heaven and NEVER DID DIE according to CULTIST tinydavid (LOL!) 
and then reunites those two with a third HUMAN body??? LMBO! 
