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Posted : 8 Aug, 2022 06:03 AM

By Tim Challies

The False Teachers: Ellen G. White

March 16, 2014 #false teachers

A few weeks ago I set out on a new series of articles through which I intend to scan the history of the church—from its earliest days all the way to the present time—to examine some of Christianity’s most notorious false teachers. Along the way we will visit such figures as Arius, Pelagius, Fosdick, and even a few you might find on television today. We continue this morning with a false teacher—the first woman in the series—who has around 18 million followers in the world today.



Ellen G. White

Ellen Gould Harmon was born on a small farm near the village of Gorham, Maine, on November 26, 1827. Only a few years after her birth, her parents Robert and Eunice Harmon gave up farming to move to the nearby town of Portland where her father became a hat maker. When Ellen was nine she was permanently disfigured when a fellow student maliciously hit her in the head with a rock. The rock put her into a coma that lasted several weeks and forced her to miss a long period of schooling.



When Ellen was twelve, she and her family attended a Methodist camp meeting in Buxton, Maine, and there she had a formative religious experience in which she professed faith in Jesus Christ. In 1840 and 1842 she and her family attended Adventist meetings and become devotees of William Miller. Miller had dedicated himself to the study of biblical prophecy and was convinced that Christ would return on October 22, 1844. When Christ did not return, a non-event that would become known as The Great Disappointment, most people abandoned Adventism. But in the resulting confusion, Ellen claimed to have received visions that were soon accepted as God-given revelation. The small Adventist movement that remained was split by many rifts and much infighting, but Ellen was believed to have a gift that could reunite and guide the movement. Her dreams and visions continued and she quickly became a leader among them.



In 1846, Ellen married a young Adventist preacher named James White and together they traveled extensively, spreading the Adventist faith to New England and beyond. Twelve months later she gave birth to a son, one of four children she would bear, but soon left the child with friends so she could carry on traveling, preaching, and writing.



Ellen G WhiteIn 1855 the Whites moved to Battle Creek, Michigan, and that became Adventism’s hub. Five years later, representatives from each Adventist congregation gathered there and determined that henceforth they would be known as Seventh-day Adventists. Soon after they formally organized as a denomination.



All through this time Ellen continued to receive prophetic dreams and visions—some 2,000 during her lifetime—and through them she guided and formed the church. Over her lifetime Testimonies for the Church expanded from a mere sixteen pages to nine full volumes. In 1863 she received a vision about human health and her followers soon adopted her health regulations as part of their practice, rejecting meat, coffee, and medication in favor of natural remedies.



The Adventist movement continued to expand and the Whites were in high demand across America. They traveled constantly, addressing large congregations and meetings. After James died in 1881, Ellen traveled all the more, spending two years in England and almost nine years in Australia. She spent most of the final fifteen years of her life in Elmshaven, California, and was largely consumed with writing and organizing the growing denomination. She died on July 16, 1915, at the age of 87. During her lifetime she had preached countless times and had written some 5,000 articles and 40 books. By the time she died, Seventh-day Adventism had a worldwide membership of nearly 140,000.



False Teaching

In many respects Ellen G. White appeared to hold to the historic Christian faith. She believed in Christ’s imminent bodily return, she held to the inspiration and authority of the Bible, and she taught that we are saved by Christ’s righteousness rather than our own. But amid that truth were some dangerous false teachings. I will focus on only two.



The most obvious false teaching was the one that gave the Seventh-day Adventists their name: the view that the proper day of worship is Saturday rather than Sunday. Shortly after James and Ellen married, they studied a tract written by Joseph Bates titled Seventh-day Sabbath and became convinced that they were to keep Saturday as the sabbath. Six months later, Ellen had a vision in which she saw the law of God with a halo of light surrounding the fourth commandment. She and her husband took this as proof that their newfound understanding was correct. They elevated this to a doctrine of first importance.



Of far more concern was White’s aberrant view of death, hell, and eternal punishment. Adventists adopted several key tenets including one stating that God does not eternally torment sinners, but that the dead enter into soul-sleep until the second coming and last judgment. At that time the punishment for sinners will be that they cease to exist.



White held that a God of eternal wrath must be incompatible with a God of love and kindness. In The Great Controversy she wrote, “How repugnant to every emotion of love and mercy, and even to our sense of justice, is the doctrine that the wicked dead are tormented with fire and brimstone in an eternally burning hell; that for the sins of a brief, earthly life they are to suffer torture as long as God shall live.”



She also believed that God would simply annihilate the souls of those who did not follow him. “But I saw that God would not shut them up in hell to endure endless misery, neither will He take them to heaven; for to bring them into the company of the pure and holy would make them exceedingly miserable. But He will destroy them utterly and cause them to be as if they had not been; then His justice will be satisfied. He formed man out of the dust of the earth, and the disobedient and unholy will be consumed by fire and return to dust again.”



Followers and Modern Adherents

Adventism nearly came to an end in the days following The Great Disappointment. But Ellen G. White gave the movement new life and a new voice. Through constant preaching, teaching, and evangelism, she and her followers had grown the movement to nearly 140,000 by the time of her death in 1915. Today there are an estimated 18 million Seventh-day Adventists in the world. Their individual beliefs vary so widely that some Christians consider them a cult while others do not.



Seventh-day Adventism has continued to evolve. They continue to regard Ellen G. White as having a unique, God-given gift of prophecy. They continue to hold to the sabbath and to their emphasis on healthy eating and living. They continue to deny both the immortality of the soul and the reality of hell as eternal, conscious torment. Successors to Ellen G. White have also developed the distinctive and troubling doctrine of Investigative Judgment. (CARM helpfully lists their affirmations, denials, and most troubling teachings and provides this counsel: “There are too many problems within Seventh-day Adventism to recommend it as a safe church. Though there are Seventh-day Adventist groups that are within orthodoxy, there are too many of them that are not.”)



What the Bible Says

The Bible counters much of what Ellen G. White taught and what her church teaches today.



In the matter of the sabbath, the New Testament clearly shows Christians worshiping together on Sunday rather than Saturday. Not only that, but Romans 14 teaches that each person must be convinced in his own mind about the day they observe as the Lord’s Day; if the sabbath was binding on all Christians today, this passage would be meaningless.



In contrast to White’s teaching on the eternal destiny of those who do not know the Lord, the Bible teaches that hell is real, that it is eternal, and that in hell God’s wrath is poured out in conscious, everlasting punishment. John the Baptist spoke of Jesus, saying, “His winnowing fork is in his hand, and he will clear his threshing floor and gather his wheat into the barn, but the chaff he will burn with unquenchable fire” (Matthew 3:12). Jesus himself spoke of hell saying, “if your hand causes you to sin, cut it off. It is better for you to enter life crippled than with two hands to go to hell, to the unquenchable fire” and “these will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous into eternal life” (Mark 9:43, Matthew 25:46). And in the epistles, Paul warned, “They will suffer the punishment of eternal destruction, away from the presence of the Lord and from the glory of his might” (2 Thessalonians 1:9). Only by deliberately twisting the Scriptures can anyone deny the terrifying reality that hell is real and that those who do not know the Lord will be there to face his wrath forever.

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Pipiripi

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Posted : 8 Aug, 2022 07:36 PM

You are just following what other religions people has said about the Seven day Adventist Church.



You have never see and cannot never understand how God has prepare this church.



You don't know nothing about the foundation and from where all those people has come together.



But I will give you a lesson, and maybe you can understand why this church have so many hospitals, schools, and many other things that God has provided for them.

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Posted : 9 Aug, 2022 04:36 AM

Catholics has one of the largest organizations in the World.

They have many charities, churches, schools, medical centers.



Does this make them the Right church in God's eyes?



7day adventism is not the Remnant Church. You are deceived in wrong doctrine.



Galatians teachers we are no longer under the Law but Grace .



Faith in Jesus alone is what saves man/woman!

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Posted : 9 Aug, 2022 05:51 AM

The Bible, that you claim to believe in, shows how to identify false teachers and prophets.



One way of identifying false prophets is so simple.

For example, if a prophet makes a prediction that doesn’t come to pass then obviously the “prophet” becomes a proven false prophet.

I ask you, therefore, what about the false predictions of the Seventh-day Adventist leadership which includes Ellen White⁉️

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Posted : 10 Aug, 2022 10:10 PM

Catholic Churches is from the state. The state paid them. So the church belongs to all taxpayers.



And you are wrong to believe in one time save, forever save.



Go read Ezekiel 18.

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Posted : 11 Aug, 2022 07:00 AM

Your false Seventh-day Adventist doctrine is more closely affiliated with the false works based legalism associated with RCism that you believe.

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Posted : 12 Aug, 2022 09:36 AM

Folks you just cannot make this stuff up on how littledavid >>>claims<<< Pipiripi here on this forum is SOMEHOW 'more closely affiliated' with the cathoholic so called 'church' (the first beast clearly taught by John in Rev. 13:1-8!) with its TRULY 'false works based legalism' in keeping SUN-day when Pipiripi keeps SATURN-day all found on a PAGAN PAPER calendar that

supposedly the Messiah Yah'shua, plus Apostles and other Prophets kept, even in the NT!? Not hardly! Folks, nothing could be further from the truth because the SDA's ( I have friends that STILL attend that 'church' that keeps a >>>PAPER<<< calendar first invented by ROME, that is by julius caesar and adopted by the modern day 'r' cathoholic 'c'! LOL!) have ALWAYS been

against the >>>first beast<<< of Revelation chapter 13! Folks, its CLEARLY littledavid (and the late CULTISTrsvp) that OBEY the >>>commandments<<< of the 'r' cathoholic 'c and KEEP SUN-day, the worship of BAAL and one of the oldest forms of egyptian religions!!!



That's right folks, littledavid is desperate to trying to link Pipiripi with the PAGAN BAAL and SUN-day worshipers, like littledavid does and OBEYS!? REALLY? So who is the hypocrite now??? LOL! Where is the evidence SDA's keep SUN-day and BAAL egyptian worship times, when its littledavid that does and OBEYS the adopted egyptian religion, by the 'r' cathoholic 'c' and 'all the world wonders' after the >>>first<<< beast and littledavid JOINS HANDS with them every SUN-day!!!???



Your on the right track Pipiripi, because the cathoholic so called 'church' is not >>>only<<< claiming to be one but is clearly like a self 'state' recognized to be a WORLD RELIGION POWER (over ALL so called claiming to be protest-ants in many ways) like no other and John has SOOOOOOOOO much to say about it in Revelations about the HARLOT he descibes by his >>>inspired<<< pen for us to study! I don't know what you mean by that 'r' cathoholic 'c' belonging 'to all taxpayers' as you say when its, its own POWER and self made government and supported by the USA and many other countries that WONDER AFTER THAT BEAST!



BUT I do agree with you that the CULT doctrine of O.S.A.S. false teaching is obviously wrong and even mooncakes knows we are always FREE WILL CREATURES that >>>can always choose to go back to sin<<< and CLEARLY said in Ezekiel chapter 18 and its CONTEXT in that chapter, let alone the ENTIRE Bible on the subject!



Key snippet verse here - verse 24, 'But when the righteous (that were clearly saved at one time!) turneth away from his/her righteousness, and committeth iniquity' (go back to continually sinning!), 'and doeth according to all the abominations that the wicked man' (the lost mankind PAGANS!) 'doeth, shall he/she live' (but littledavid says the wicked get 'eternal life' in a fire and

never die someday, contradicting the Bible on this forum here many times!)??? 'All his/her righteousness that he/she hath done' (when at one point he /she was saved!) 'shall not be mentioned: in his/her trespass' (continual sins!) 'that he/she hath trespassed, and >>>in his/her sin that he/she hath sinned<<<, in them shall he/she die' (in the one day made lake of fire!)!!!



OUCH! Right Pipiripi?



GREAT KILL SHOT POST to littledavid Pipiripi, of Ezekiel chapter 18 of the false teaching of littledavids CULT doctrine (on many pages of this forum) of O.S.A.S. and now he is OWNED and CORRECTED by the Prophet Ezekiel! mooncakes has tried to tell littledavid but he hides from having a discussion with mooncakes (he fears her verbal WRATH! LOL!) about the subject of O.S.A.S. false teaching that she is telling him about on MANY threads! Once again littledavid being OWNED by mooncakes >>>ALSO<<<, as she is CORRECT about that subject and agrees with Ezekiel like we all do! LMBO!

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LittleDavid

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Posted : 12 Aug, 2022 09:58 AM

SuperHero FlatEarthTeddyBug to the rescue‼️‼️‼️ 😂😂🤣🤣😇



Folks, I keep telling the TeddyBug to put his super hero cape on frontward in that way it won’t blow over his face causing him to crash into buildings and trees—but there he goes again—with another crash landing‼️‼️





Then I have to come along and help by putting his superhero cape and gown on him the right way‼️‼️‼️😂🤣😇



First of all, the TeddyBug says in other posts, that he is as free of sin as Jesus was. Yeah, YOU CANT MAKE THIS STUFF UP‼️‼️

Yet, the “sinless and perfect” TeddyBug tells lies about me AND MANY OTHERS because that’s all he’s got. He can’t tell the truth so he lies. He accuses me of saying wicked people go to heaven but I’ve never said that. Why he prove it by quoting me but can’t he quote me so he just lies‼️‼️‼️

I’ve have quoted his lies multiple times and have proven his false teachings using his own words.



The TeddyBug doesn’t know anything about nearly everything he writes about, that’s why he so fun refuting—that’s IF you can understand his incompetent and incoherent posts

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Posted : 12 Aug, 2022 10:37 AM

littledavid says, actually LIES - QUOTE -Teddy says in other posts, that he is as free of sin as Jesus was.' ???



Where is the thread and proof I said that littledavid?? Until then your a LIAR! Post it here for all to read or shut your filthly LYING TWISTING YAP, just as Quiznos knows you do all the time!



Quote 2 - Teddy accuses me of saying wicked people go to heaven' ???



AGAIN, where is the thread and proof I said that littledavid?? Until then your a LIAR! Post it here for all to read or shut your filthly LYING TWISTING YAP, just as Quiznos knows you do all the time!



We all know you muchfaithinsinningdavid as the continual sinning perfectionist!

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Posted : 13 Aug, 2022 06:05 AM

False teacher and heretic FlatEarthTeddyBug, who believes the “Chinese must be walking upside down if you believe the world is round”, (yes, he really said that‼️), can’t seem to keep his lies straight.



HERE ARE THE LIES THE FLAT EARTH LIAR SAID IN OTHER POSTS BUT FORGOT ABOUT‼️‼️‼️



FOLLOWING ARE >>JUST SOME<< of the TEDDYBUG QUOTES proving HIS SINLESS PERFECTIONISM HERESY

TEDDYBUG: Quote of tinyfaithdavid - 'The Lord’s Prayer commands us to daily confess our sins‼️‼️‼️'

tinyfaithdavid makes the >>>assumption<<< that the 'The MASTERs Prayer' was addressing everyone would continue to sin, when the TRUTH IS, IF you should elect to go back to sinning (DENY HEAVENS POWER) then YES you need to confess sin!

tinyfaithdavid >>>assumption<<< contradicts the MASTERS very own words - be PERFECT even as my Father in heaven is PERFECT and so according to tinyfaithdavid He LIED to us and or perhaps TEASED us what is not available to us, when we cannot have this POWER from FATHER YHWH and this side of heaven just like the Messiah did when He walked the earth!

Absurdity in contradictions of the TRUE righteousness by FAITH message from the Bible, that WHEN we were sinners at one point in our lives (ALL HAVE SINNED AT SOME POINT IN THE PAST!), then for tinyfaithdavid to claim we >will< keep sinning this side of heaven???????????????????????????????????????? Just because he LOVES to sin! END QUOTE

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Posted : 13 Aug, 2022 06:09 AM

TeddyBug, since you asked, I have a whole lot more quotes of your false teaching you posted on the forum. I think they’re worth repeating because they expose you for the false teacher you are‼️‼️‼️

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