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lot's wife the first morton salt girl -- Matt 5:13 You are the salt of the earth. but if the salt loses its savor, how can it be made salty again?
Posted : 21 Mar, 2021 08:04 AM
In speaking to His disciples about a coming time of great destruction, Jesus mentioned what happened to Lot’s wife and the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah. “Remember Lot’s wife!” He said. “Whoever tries to keep their life will lose it, and whoever loses their life will preserve it” (Luke 17:32–33).
The story of Lot and his wife is found in Genesis 19. God had determined to destroy Sodom and Gomorrah for their wickedness (Genesis 18:16–33), and two angels warned Abraham’s nephew Lot to evacuate the city so he and his family would not be destroyed. In Genesis 19 we read, The two [angels in the form of] men said to Lot, ‘Do you have anyone else here—sons-in-law, sons or daughters, or anyone else in the city who belongs to you? Get them out of here, because we are going to destroy this place. The outcry to the LORD against its people is so great that he has sent us to destroy it’” (verses 12–13).
At dawn the next day, the angels hurried Lot and his family out of Sodom so they would not be destroyed with the city. When Lot hesitated, “the men grasped his hand and the hands of his wife and of his two daughters and led them safely out of the city, for the LORD was merciful to them. As soon as they had brought them out, one of them said, ‘Flee for your lives! Don’t look back, and don’t stop anywhere in the plain! Flee to the mountains or you will be swept away!’” (Genesis 19:16–17).
As the family fled, “the Lord rained down burning sulfur on Sodom and Gomorrah—from the Lord out of the heavens” (Genesis 19:24). But, then, in disobedience to the angel’s command, “Lot’s wife looked back, and she became a pillar of salt” (verse 26).
Lot’s wife lost her life because she “looked back.” This was more than just a glance over the shoulder; it was a look of longing that indicated reluctance to leave or a desire to return. Whatever the case, the point is she was called to desert everything to save her life, but she could not let go, and she paid for it with her life. In Judaism, Lot’s wife became a symbol for a rebellious unbeliever.
Jesus cites this story in Luke 17, as He describes a future event: “It was the same in the days of Lot. People were eating and drinking, buying and selling, planting and building. But the day Lot left Sodom, fire and sulfur rained down from heaven and destroyed them all. It will be just like this on the day the Son of Man is revealed. On that day no one who is on the housetop, with possessions inside, should go down to get them. Likewise, no one in the field should go back for anything. Remember Lot’s wife! Whoever tries to keep their life will lose it, and whoever loses their life will preserve it” (verses 28–33).
When “the Son of Man is revealed,” it will be time for people to flee. There will be no time to take anything along. If you see the sign when you are on the roof (a rooftop deck with exterior stairs was a common feature of houses at the time), you should not even take time to go into the house to gather up your possessions. You need to get out and “don’t look back.” Lot’s wife is the example of what will happen if you do. If you try to save your life (that is, your things that your life is made up of), you will lose everything. Leave it all to save your life.
The scenario is similar to a person who wakes up in the middle of the night to find the house in flames. That person might be tempted to run around and gather up valuable items, but the delay might prevent escape—all the things will be lost, as well as the person’s life. It is better to leave it all behind and get out with your life. The principle is clear, but the exact referent is more difficult to discern.
The revelation of the Son of Man is the event in view in Luke 17. Mark 13:14–16 records much the same message without the mention of Lot’s wife. There, the sign is “the abomination that causes desolation” (see also Matthew 24:15–18). Finally, Jesus mentions a similar situation in Luke 21:20–21: “When you see Jerusalem being surrounded by armies, you will know that its desolation is near. Then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains, let those in the city get out, and let those in the country not enter the city.”
The above passages are open to several different approaches to interpretation, centered on when this will take place. If we are correct that all of these passages describe roughly the same event(s), it would seem that “the day the Son of Man is revealed,” “the abomination that causes desolation,” and “Jerusalem surrounded by armies” all refer to the signal that it is time to flee.
Outside of Luke 17, the warnings to flee are found in the context of the destruction of the temple in Jerusalem (see Luke 21:5–7 and Mark 13:1–4). In Matthew 24:1–3, Jesus also deals with the destruction of the temple, except there the disciples also ask specifically about “the sign of your coming and the end of the age.” So, at least some of the prophecy was fulfilled in the first century with the destruction of the temple, but that does not preclude a future, fuller fulfillment at the second coming. The wording in Luke 17, in which Jesus speaks of the revelation of the Son of Man, certainly seems to suggest the second coming (see Colossians 3:4).
Jewish believers in the first century faced persecution from Rome, often at Jewish instigation. As long as Christians were considered a sect of Judaism, they enjoyed religious freedom as Jews. However, as they were denounced by Jewish leaders and no longer considered part of Judaism, the full force of Roman expectations applied to them, including the requirement to affirm the creed “Caesar is Lord” and offer sacrifices to Caesar. If Christians failed to do this, they could be punished, imprisoned, or even killed. As a result, believing Jews faced continual pressure to “go back to the temple.” The book of Hebrews encourages believing Jews to remain true to Christ and not return to the Old Covenant system of the temple, priests, and sacrifices. Hebrews explains that the Old Covenant has passed.
There may have been some believing Jews in Judea who still had some attachment to the temple. In Luke 17, Jesus warns that there will come a time when they see a symbol of impending judgment, and they will need to get out of the area as quickly as possible. Just as God rained down wrath on Sodom and Gomorrah, He will judge Jerusalem. The coming wrath is no time for divided loyalties. While many believed that God would never allow the temple to be destroyed, Jewish Christians knew that the usefulness of the temple had passed and its days were numbered. They could stay on in Jerusalem and witness of the resurrected Christ, but when they saw that judgment was about to fall, they knew to get out. Eusebius in his Church History records that they did escape. By abandoning everything and getting out of the city, the Christians not only saved their lives but also gave testimony to the fact that the Old Covenant had been replaced by the New.
A similar sentiment is expressed by Jesus in other contexts, although Lot’s wife is not mentioned. Jesus said, “No one who puts a hand to the plow and looks back is fit for service in the kingdom of God” (Luke 9:62). In context, Jesus is talking about people who want to follow Him but are hindered by their concern for other things. It is not just that they look back, but they have divided loyalties, like Lot’s wife.
Jesus also used the statement “whoever wants to save his life shall lose it” in a number of different contexts (Matthew 10:39; 16:25; Mark 8:35, Luke 9:24; 17:33). Regardless of the specifics of the context, following Jesus requires turning our backs on the “life” that this world offers. Attempting to “save your life” is the same as “looking back.” Attachment to our “old life” will cause us to lose our lives, and Lot’s wife is the illustration and example that we would do well to remember.
lot's wife the first morton salt girl -- Matt 5:13 You are the salt of the earth. but if the salt loses its savor, how can it be made salty again?
Posted : 21 Mar, 2021 11:10 AM
The coming of the day of Christ is unexpected, just as the flood, and as for Sodom and Gomorrah, even Lots wife, to not be permitted to escape by God, and they asked the Lord where ? The answer is given, the eagles gather where the body is..
Luke 17:28 Likewise also as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold, they planted, they builded;
29 But the same day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and destroyed them all.
30 Even thus shall it be in the day when the Son of man is revealed.
31 In that day, he which shall be upon the housetop, and his stuff in the house, let him not come down to take it away: and he that is in the field, let him likewise not return back.
32 Remember Lot's wife.
33 Whosoever shall seek to save his life shall lose it; and whosoever shall lose his life shall preserve it.
34 I tell you, in that night there shall be two men in one bed; the one shall be taken, and the other shall be left.
35 Two women shall be grinding together; the one shall be taken, and the other left.
36 Two men shall be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left.
37 And they answered and said unto him, Where, Lord? And he said unto them, Wheresoever the body is, thither will the eagles be gathered together.
Now popping over to Matthew 13, and the good seed is sown by Christ for the children of the Kingdom, and the tares are sown for the children of the wicked one, and all is for the purpose of the harvest for this ending of the world.
The reapers are the angels ( eagles) and the whole event is which sewed you received, and which child you were ( each go to their master and use the heart and ears they are given )
The angels gather out of the Kingdom of God, all the tares who offend and work iniquity ( sinning)
Then the righteous ( who do no unrighteousness) shine forth for the abundance of pace in the inherit meek world..
Matthew 13:37 He answered and said unto them, He that soweth the good seed is the Son of man;
38 The field is the world; the good seed are the children of the kingdom; but the tares are the children of the wicked one;
39 The enemy that sowed them is the devil; the harvest is the end of the world; and the reapers are the angels.
40 As therefore the tares are gathered and burned in the fire; so shall it be in the end of this world.
41 The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity;
42 And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth.
43 Then shall the righteous shine forth as the sun in the kingdom of their Father. Who hath ears to hear, let him hear.
The treasure of the Kingdom of Heaven, is unlike Lots wife, it is by first before disaster, to have given all of your life away, as the good and bad will be gathered together, and the wicked doers will be severed from among the just doers( the just do no wickedness and the wicked do no justice) and the angels do as told in Luke 17:37..
Matthew 13:44 Again, the kingdom of heaven is like unto treasure hid in a field; the which when a man hath found, he hideth, and for joy thereof goeth and selleth all that he hath, and buyeth that field.
45 Again, the kingdom of heaven is like unto a merchant man, seeking goodly pearls:
46 Who, when he had found one pearl of great price, went and sold all that he had, and bought it.
47 Again, the kingdom of heaven is like unto a net, that was cast into the sea, and gathered of every kind:
48 Which, when it was full, they drew to shore, and sat down, and gathered the good into vessels, but cast the bad away.
49 So shall it be at the end of the world: the angels shall come forth, and sever the wicked from among the just,
50 And shall cast them into the furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth.
And the simple preparation is told in the Epistles of the Apostles of the Lord, to press toward the mark for the high calling of God in Jesus Christ, forgetting all things that are behind and reaching towards those things that are before ( which is all things of the Lord only)..
Philippians 3:13 Brethren, I count not myself to have apprehended: but this one thing I do, forgetting those things which are behind, and reaching forth unto those things which are before,
14 I press toward the mark for the prize of the high calling of God in Christ Jesus.
lot's wife the first morton salt girl -- Matt 5:13 You are the salt of the earth. but if the salt loses its savor, how can it be made salty again?
Posted : 21 Mar, 2021 01:01 PM
Adam, why haven’t you explained salvation??
I’ve asked you this question how many times??
It’s easy to answer, why can’t you answer?
Adam you claim to be sinless and perfect in your obedience so have you prayed according to the Lord’s command by daily asking forgiveness for your sins as you forgive the sins of others against you ??
lot's wife the first morton salt girl -- Matt 5:13 You are the salt of the earth. but if the salt loses its savor, how can it be made salty again?
Posted : 22 Mar, 2021 12:27 AM
All scripture is for instruction in righteousness for salvation, and that's why, if we live after the flesh we die, ( praying to be forgiven for living after the flesh is death still)
We need the Spirit which is believing in the risen Lord Jesus Christ, and then we mortify the deeds of the body to live ( not leaving the body in sinning and praying and all OK)
Not in bondage again to sinning ( pretending praying covers all evil against others) but by having the Spirit of the Son in us to pray to the Father with ( in a good conscience not an evil one)..
Romans 8:13 For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live.
14 For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.
15 For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but ye have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father.
lot's wife the first morton salt girl -- Matt 5:13 You are the salt of the earth. but if the salt loses its savor, how can it be made salty again?
Posted : 22 Mar, 2021 05:42 AM
In addition to what Adam posted about salvation globlet head David --
Moon posts - 'Conviction... Believe the Gospel ... Confession ... repent of your sins... Conversion... lifestyle changes!'
Well there you go globlet head David! You keep asking what the salvation message is because you don't know, so did you learn anything from Moon also???
lot's wife the first morton salt girl -- Matt 5:13 You are the salt of the earth. but if the salt loses its savor, how can it be made salty again?
Posted : 22 Mar, 2021 09:13 AM
Ok Adam, how about you explaining what salvation means??
If you must copy moonlight’s post like Flat Teddy did then do so—at least that’s a start but at some point you guys need to explain salvation on your own in your own words
lot's wife the first morton salt girl -- Matt 5:13 You are the salt of the earth. but if the salt loses its savor, how can it be made salty again?
Posted : 22 Mar, 2021 09:13 AM
Ok Adam, how about you explaining what salvation means??
If you must copy moonlight’s post like Flat Teddy did then do so—at least that’s a start but at some point you guys need to explain salvation on your own in your own words
lot's wife the first morton salt girl -- Matt 5:13 You are the salt of the earth. but if the salt loses its savor, how can it be made salty again?
Posted : 22 Mar, 2021 10:24 AM
All scripture is for instruction in righteousness for salvation, and that's why, if we live after the flesh we die, ( praying to be forgiven for living after the flesh is death still)
We need the Spirit which is believing in the risen Lord Jesus Christ, and then we mortify the deeds of the body to live ( not leaving the body in sinning and praying and all OK)
Not in bondage again to sinning ( pretending praying covers all evil against others) but by having the Spirit of the Son in us to pray to the Father with ( in a good conscience not an evil one)..
Romans 8:13 For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live.
14 For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.
15 For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but ye have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father.
You keep asking what the salvation message is because you don't know, so did you learn anything from Moon also??? 