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I know thy works, and thy labour, and thy patience, and how thou canst not bear them which are evil: and thou HAST TRIED THEM WHICH SAY THEY ARE APOSTLES, AND ARE NOT, AND HAST FOUND THEM LIARS
Posted : 8 Feb, 2021 01:33 AM

Any Apostles today, sent by God, in the churches, any missionaries sent by God and Apostles ?





God does greater than a persons ideas, and words.



God gave the signs, to follow belief, confirming the word with signs, which were, they cast out devils, speak with new tongues, take up serpents, no deadly thing shall harm them, they lay hands on the sick and they recover..





Mark 16:17 And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues;

18 They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover.

19 So then after the Lord had spoken unto them, he was received up into heaven, and sat on the right hand of God.

20 And they went forth, and preached every where, the Lord working with them, and confirming the word with signs following. Amen.







Now Paul fulfilled those signs, casting out the spirit, tongues more than all, the serpent was took up on Paul's arm and Paul cast it off, Paul laid hands on the sick and healed them..





Acts 16:18 And this did she many days. But Paul, being grieved, turned and said to the spirit, I command thee in the name of Jesus Christ to come out of her. And he came out the same hour.



1 Corinthians 14:18 I thank my God, I speak with tongues more than ye all:



Acts 28:3 And when Paul had gathered a bundle of sticks, and laid them on the fire, there came a viper out of the heat, and fastened on his hand.

4 And when the barbarians saw the venomous beast hang on his hand, they said among themselves, No doubt this man is a murderer, whom, though he hath escaped the sea, yet vengeance suffereth not to live.

5 And he shook off the beast into the fire, and felt no harm.



Acts 28:8 And it came to pass, that the father of Publius lay sick of a fever and of a bloody flux: to whom Paul entered in, and prayed, and laid his hands on him, and healed him.





(drinking deadly thing was fulfilled by muhammed who died through poison to reveal who is not a true apostle)







Back on the PROVEN apostles.





Paul we know, is THE APOSTLE, to the Gentiles, bound with the chain for the HOPE of Israel..





Romans 11:13 For I speak to you Gentiles, inasmuch as I am the apostle of the Gentiles, I magnify mine office



Acts 28:20 For this cause therefore have I called for you, to see you, and to speak with you: because that for the hope of Israel I am bound with this chain.







Paul revealed how the Apostles are set forth last as examples to the world, to be weak in Christ, ( in illneses Gods strength is perfected in us 2 Corinthians 12:9) despised, have lost their life for Christ to have nothing, being reviled, hungering, persecuted, this is following Christ, who also had nowhere ti lay His head, are missionaries all of these testimonies, do they fulfill any signs, or they are none of those terrible ways and God proves nothing about them as God fulfilled on His true Apostles INCLUDING being given illness to humble us ?







Matthew 8:20 And Jesus saith unto him, The foxes have holes, and the birds of the air have nests; but the Son of man hath not where to lay his head.



1 Corinthians 4:9 For I think that God hath set forth us the apostles last, as it were appointed to death: for we are made a spectacle unto the world, and to angels, and to men.

10 We are fools for Christ's sake, but ye are wise in Christ; we are weak, but ye are strong; ye are honourable, but we are despised.

11 Even unto this present hour we both hunger, and thirst, and are naked, and are buffeted, and have no certain dwellingplace;

12 And labour, working with our own hands: being reviled, we bless; being persecuted, we suffer it:

13 Being defamed, we intreat: we are made as the filth of the world, and are the offscouring of all things unto this day.

14 I write not these things to shame you, but as my beloved sons I warn you.

15 For though ye have ten thousand instructers in Christ, yet have ye not many fathers: for in Christ Jesus I have begotten you through the gospel.

16 Wherefore I beseech you, be ye followers of me.



1 Corinthians 11:1 Be ye followers of me, even as I also am of Christ.



Philippians 3:17 Brethren, be followers together of me, and mark them which walk so as ye have us for an ensample.







The mark of a true Apostle is further testified, stripes, deaths, beatings, stonings, perils, weariness, painfulness, hunger, thirst, cold, nakedness, AND, the care of ALL the churches..



2 Corinthians 11:23 Are they ministers of Christ? (I speak as a fool) I am more; in labours more abundant, in stripes above measure, in prisons more frequent, in deaths oft.

24 Of the Jews five times received I forty stripes save one.

25 Thrice was I beaten with rods, once was I stoned, thrice I suffered shipwreck, a night and a day I have been in the deep;

26 In journeyings often, in perils of waters, in perils of robbers, in perils by mine own countrymen, in perils by the heathen, in perils in the city, in perils in the wilderness, in perils in the sea, in perils among false brethren;

27 In weariness and painfulness, in watchings often, in hunger and thirst, in fastings often, in cold and nakedness.

28 Beside those things that are without, that which cometh upon me daily, the care of all the churches.







Many winders and signs were done by the Apostles/ The Apostles give witness of the Lord with great power, and by the hands of the Apostles many signs and wonders were wrought by them, they received Apostleship for obedience to the faith. All of this is THE APOSTLES' DOCTRINE..



Acts 2:42 And they continued stedfastly in the apostles' doctrine and fellowship, and in breaking of bread, and in prayers.



Acts 2:43 And fear came upon every soul: and many wonders and signs were done by the apostles.



Acts 4:33 And with great power gave the apostles witness of the resurrection of the Lord Jesus: and great grace was upon them all.



Acts 5:12 And by the hands of the apostles were many signs and wonders wrought among the people; (and they were all with one accord in Solomon's porch.



Romans 1:5 By whom we have received grace and apostleship, for obedience to the faith among all nations, for his name:







Now, remembering just above, of the Apostles doctrine, notice right here, how they preach another Jesus. Apostle Paul is the chief Apostle warning us of these FALSE APOSTLES.



False apostles, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ.



The devil as an angel of light, and his ministers as the ministers of righteousness, but we know their works are NOT, the doctrine of the Apostles..





1 Corinthians 11:4 For if he that cometh preacheth another Jesus, whom we have not preached, or if ye receive another spirit, which ye have not received, or another gospel, which ye have not accepted, ye might well bear with him.

5 For I suppose I was not a whit behind the very chiefest apostles.



2 Corinthians 11:13 For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ.

14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.

15 Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works.





When Apostle Paul departed, the wolves as just mentioned above, entered the flock of the church...





Acts 20:29 For I know this, that after my departing shall grievous wolves enter in among you, not sparing the flock.







The final word on what occurs, Christ testifies to the churches, to TRY THEM, which SAY, they are apostles, AND ARE NOT, and FIND THEM LIARS..





Revelation 22:16 I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star.





Revelation 2:2 I know thy works, and thy labour, and thy patience, and how thou canst not bear them which are evil: and thou hast tried them which say they are apostles, and are not, and hast found them liars:





That is the synagogue of satan, the wolves who entered the churches not sparing them, the false apostles as ministers of righteousness with satan leading them as the angel of light, they say they are Jews ( or apostles) and are not, but do lie..





Revelation 2:9 I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan.



Revelation 3:9 Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee.







So the Jew ( believer in Christs righteousness) is not outwardly recognized by those of the flesh, but the Jew ( and Apostle) is inwardly recognized by God, circumcised in the heart with Gods Spirit, no praise of men, only praise of God..





Romans 2:28 For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh:



Romans 2:29 But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God.





Nothing outward, only the hidden man of the heart, which unlike all seen in this world, is not corruptible.



As God has not chosen the seen churches, nor the seen missionaries/apostles, but God has chosen the unseen and foolish, chosen the weak, the base and despised, the ones who are not, to bring to nothing those that are, the flesh who glory in His presence, are not the children of God..



1 Peter 3:3 Whose adorning let it not be that outward adorning of plaiting the hair, and of wearing of gold, or of putting on of apparel;

4 But let it be the hidden man of the heart, in that which is not corruptible, even the ornament of a meek and quiet spirit, which is in the sight of God of great price.



1 Corinthians 1:27 But God hath chosen the foolish things of the world to confound the wise; and God hath chosen the weak things of the world to confound the things which are mighty;

28 And base things of the world, and things which are despised, hath God chosen, yea, and things which are not, to bring to nought things that are:

29 That no flesh should glory in his presence.



Romans 9:8 That is, They which are the children of the flesh, these are not the children of God: but the children of the promise are counted for the seed.

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I know thy works, and thy labour, and thy patience, and how thou canst not bear them which are evil: and thou HAST TRIED THEM WHICH SAY THEY ARE APOSTLES, AND ARE NOT, AND HAST FOUND THEM LIARS
Posted : 8 Feb, 2021 02:33 PM

God gave the signs, to follow belief, confirming the word with signs, which were, they cast out devils, speak with new tongues, take up serpents, no deadly thing shall harm them, they lay hands on the sick and they recover..



Can you tell me what this means in the modern day for us?

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I know thy works, and thy labour, and thy patience, and how thou canst not bear them which are evil: and thou HAST TRIED THEM WHICH SAY THEY ARE APOSTLES, AND ARE NOT, AND HAST FOUND THEM LIARS
Posted : 9 Feb, 2021 01:10 AM

The wolves entered the churches, and then we just need to look at the end of the world verses to know what this means for us today.



Now is the falling away, before the day of Christ as TESTIFIED.



Now as mentioned already, satan comes as the angel of light, who 2000 years ago entered the churches in his ministers, as ministers of righteousness ( who do only evil deceitful works to deceive all) and now satan has a short time to gather the world after him...



Revelation 12:12 Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time.



2 Thessalonians 2:2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.

3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;

4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.



So satan as that angel of light, will be destroyed by the brightness of Christ, and satan ( the god of this world) gives in these days, all power and signs and lying wonders: doctors, scientists, and wealth, which is the "all power" as offered to Christ in the kingdoms of the world...



2 Corinthians 4:4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.



Luke 4:5 And the devil, taking him up into an high mountain, shewed unto him all the kingdoms of the world in a moment of time.

6 And the devil said unto him, All this power will I give thee, and the glory of them: for that is delivered unto me; and to whomsoever I will I give it.



2 Thessalonians 2:8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:

9 Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,



Now we SEE CLEARLY, instead of the Lord confirming the word with signs, the Lord sends strong delusion, ( the lying signs of the devil and his false healings wonders and signs)..



2 Thessalonians 2:10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.

11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:

12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.



The snare, and strong delusion, comes on all them that dwell on the face of the whole earth, to have cares of this life multiplied, (increased wealth) to have doctors and cures for everything, instead of trusting God to heal all, scientific answers for everything ( this forum tried multiple times to share scientific wisdom ) and the biggest missing element done on the Apostles, their casting down to be humbled, persecuted, given the messenger of satan to buffet them in illnesses, replaced by boasting, pride, exaltation, and even though told by Christ what way to be lowly in the heart, cannot...



Luke 21:34 And take heed to yourselves, lest at any time your hearts be overcharged with surfeiting, and drunkenness, and cares of this life, and so that day come upon you unawares.

35 For as a snare shall it come on all them that dwell on the face of the whole earth.

36 Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man.

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I know thy works, and thy labour, and thy patience, and how thou canst not bear them which are evil: and thou HAST TRIED THEM WHICH SAY THEY ARE APOSTLES, AND ARE NOT, AND HAST FOUND THEM LIARS
Posted : 9 Feb, 2021 10:35 AM

Why do you think it is important for the follower of Christ to follow the apostles teachings?

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I know thy works, and thy labour, and thy patience, and how thou canst not bear them which are evil: and thou HAST TRIED THEM WHICH SAY THEY ARE APOSTLES, AND ARE NOT, AND HAST FOUND THEM LIARS
Posted : 9 Feb, 2021 11:43 AM

Lot of truth in there that is happening before our eyes.

Do you think many ministers in the church secretly take pleasure in unrighteousness?

I would say that if you are a diligent truth seeker then you should be able to see through the delusions that are obvious at the moment.

However I think the overall delusion has been a slow creep that goes back over a 100 years at least and is now ramping up.

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I know thy works, and thy labour, and thy patience, and how thou canst not bear them which are evil: and thou HAST TRIED THEM WHICH SAY THEY ARE APOSTLES, AND ARE NOT, AND HAST FOUND THEM LIARS
Posted : 9 Feb, 2021 11:47 PM

so, as a Christian, follower of Christ, what the bible called us to do?

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Posted : 9 Feb, 2021 11:48 PM

so, as a Christian, follower of Christ, what the bible called us to do?

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I know thy works, and thy labour, and thy patience, and how thou canst not bear them which are evil: and thou HAST TRIED THEM WHICH SAY THEY ARE APOSTLES, AND ARE NOT, AND HAST FOUND THEM LIARS
Posted : 10 Feb, 2021 01:09 PM

ADAM QUOTE: “So satan as that angel of light, will be destroyed by the brightness of Christ, and satan ( the god of this world) gives in these days, all power and signs and lying wonders: doctors, scientists, and wealth, which is the "all power" as offered to Christ in the kingdoms of the world...” END ADAM QUOTE



Once again, Adam, the promoter of a historic heresy known as perfectionism, continues to abuse scripture.

Adam falsely thinks, “...all power and signs and lying wonders: doctors, scientists, and wealth, which is the "all power"...”

Doctors, scientists and wealth have nothing to do with the kinds of lying wonders noted in scripture. To the contrary, Satan will attempt to imitate Christ’s real miracles and power.

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Posted : 11 Feb, 2021 01:34 AM

God we have read in the power of satan sent, as per 2 Thessalonians 2, sends strong delusion for all of this world to believe IN A LIE, for all to be selfish, to be lovers of pleasure, to have pleasure in unrighteousness.



That is the TESTIMONY OF GOD, for the last days, (not little davids words proven, but disproven of seeing wonders of miracles) for MEN TO BE LOVERS OF THEIR OWN SELVES, them having a form of godliness but DENYING GODS POWER of righteousness ( they acknowledge satans power of UNRIGHTEOUSNESS) they break truces, falsely accuse ( david filfils well for us as example ) heady, highminded ( remember the Apostles humility , chastened by God, is not the path of people any more )..



2 Thessalonians 2:11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:

12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.



2 Timothy 3:This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come.

2 For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy,

3 Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good,

4 Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God;

5 Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.





littledavid teacxhes, ( as do all false prophets/teachers) that the world sees supernatural signs all around them, to make them aware of a battle or war of Heaven.



But the testimony of Christ not only is different to their deceit, the testimony of Christ directly disproves darkness' interpretation.



We know the day of Christ comes totally as a thief in the night, without seeing any signs people might become aware of any spiritual battle. As God did not say He sends awareness to this world, but for the world to believe A LIE and have strong delusion.



When the people have nothing to see, and instead have ONLY ONE CONCLUSION: peace and safety (opposite to spiritual war of Heaven) then comes sudden, UNAWARE DESTRUCTION and they do not escape, and should have listened to the warnings for faith, to RECOGNIZE BY THE TESTIMONY, in the time men of the whole deluded world are lovers of their own selves to PUT ON LOVE, when the WORLD, have pleasure in UNRIGHTEOUSNESS and are LOVERS OF PLEASURES..



1 Thessalonians 5:2 For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night.

3 For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape.

4 But ye, brethren, are not in darkness, that that day should overtake you as a thief.

5 Ye are all the children of light, and the children of the day: we are not of the night, nor of darkness.

6 Therefore let us not sleep, as do others; but let us watch and be sober.

7 For they that sleep sleep in the night; and they that be drunken are drunken in the night.

8 But let us, who are of the day, be sober, putting on the breastplate of faith and love; and for an helmet, the hope of salvation.





Now these same SCOFFERS, who walk after THEIR OWN LUSTS, deny the hidden promise of Christ, deny that the world drowned, was unaware of Noah's preaching of righteousness, just read and SEE.



The flood acts as told, as ensample to this world who lives after it still ungodly.



That as testified in 2 Thessalonians 2, delusion for the WHOLE WORLD, to have pleasure in unrighteousness, is them RECEIVING THE REWARD OF UNRIGHTEOUSNESS, which is their PLEASURE, to riot in the daytime,wwith spots and blemishes, who ( exactly as david mocks to confirmed destruction) have eyes full of adultery, and THAT CANNOT CEASE FROM SIN, beguiling unstable souls with their covetous practises..



2 Peter 2:5 And spared not the old world, but saved Noah the eighth person, a preacher of righteousness, bringing in the flood upon the world of the ungodly;

6 And turning the cities of Sodom and Gomorrha into ashes condemned them with an overthrow, making them an ensample unto those that after should live ungodly;



2 Peter 2:13 And shall receive the reward of unrighteousness, as they that count it pleasure to riot in the day time. Spots they are and blemishes, sporting themselves with their own deceivings while they feast with you;

14 Having eyes full of adultery, and that cannot cease from sin; beguiling unstable souls: an heart they have exercised with covetous practices; cursed children:



2 Peter 3:3 Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts,

4 And saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation.

5 For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water:

6 Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished:

7 But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men.





Then Jesus describes these SAME DECEIVERS, many who come in the name of Christ at the END OF THE WORLD..





Matthew 24:3 And as he sat upon the mount of Olives, the disciples came unto him privately, saying, Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world?

4 And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you.

5 For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.





Remember the testimony, it is all here together, how men instead are lovers of their own selves, and this is again, LOVE SHALL WAX COLD.



Remember, men are lovers of pleasures, remember, they ( the whole world there is no sincere faith in anyone on earth) have pleasure in unrighteousness, now SEE the testimony, THAT IS INIQUITY ABOUND, deceived by the many false prophet teacxhers teaching what / Iniquity of course to deceive many..





Matthew 24:10 And then shall many be offended, and shall betray one another, and shall hate one another.

11 And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.

12 And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold.

13 But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.





That is the great tribulation on this whole earth, denied by the antichrist, told by Christ to be unseen, yet given the signs, by the world falling away.



Again, ( why do we think our God has to repeat so much in one chapter ?) Christ tells us of the FALSE PROPHETS, their role is to deceive even upto the very elect. Their signs and wonders are as told here AGAIN, to fulfil the purpose of us walking after them and their as described, iniquity teaching, self love, pleasure seeking and fulfilling deception..



Matthew 24:21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.

22 And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.

23 Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not.

24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.

25 Behold, I have told you before.

26 Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not.





The tribulation here, as a thief, is taught by the devil, to be the most visible display possible. ( do remember false prophets predict the future of what never occurs, this is what a false prophet is after all, they have no real power)..





Matthew 24:29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:

30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.





Now Jesus wants us to know, when we see these things come to pass, it is the end near. Even though the world cant see the things, as told again below..





Matthew 24:32 Now learn a parable of the fig tree; When his branch is yet tender, and putteth forth leaves, ye know that summer is nigh:

33 So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors.







Already the testimony has told us all things how the world is ALREADY DELUDED BY SATANS SELF LOVE, how the liars deny the promise of Christs coming unaware (with blind eyes and hearts without conscience) of the flood of Noah and how righteousness was preached to the same unrighteous believing world, and KNEW NOT, SO SHALL ALSO THE COMING OF THE SON OF MAN BE..





Matthew 24:37 But as the days of Noah were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.

38 For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark,

39 And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.

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I know thy works, and thy labour, and thy patience, and how thou canst not bear them which are evil: and thou HAST TRIED THEM WHICH SAY THEY ARE APOSTLES, AND ARE NOT, AND HAST FOUND THEM LIARS
Posted : 11 Feb, 2021 01:46 AM

Jezra, God calls us to realize, gaining the whole world is loosing our whole soul, so we instead can deny ourselves, to take up our cross and follow Christ, knowing the antichrist teaching is simple to recognize, they claim we are not rewarded according to our works..



Matthew 16:24 Then said Jesus unto his disciples, If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow me.

25 For whosoever will save his life shall lose it: and whosoever will lose his life for my sake shall find it.

26 For what is a man profited, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul? or what shall a man give in exchange for his soul?

27 For the Son of man shall come in the glory of his Father with his angels; and then he shall reward every man according to his works.

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Posted : 11 Feb, 2021 01:21 PM

As a sovereign being we have the right to make our own decisions. If 2 or more Christians choose to meet together to worship the Lord then they should. Now the Church is run by the government which has stopped it's meetings on it's say so.

If people are afraid of a virus they can choose to isolate themselves. Those that are not afraid and have faith in God's protection should freely practice their belief. Should a Christian willingly submit to the worlds will then what does that say about them, their faith, and their belief?

They look a bit luke warm to me, but then it's not my judgement anyone needs to worry about.

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