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Moonlight7

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Posted : 28 Dec, 2020 08:33 AM

Judas loss his salvation!



There's no scripture saying he repented for betraying Jesus.



Judas had been a follower of Jesus.





Some say he never was truly saved .

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Moonlight7

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Posted : 28 Dec, 2020 08:38 AM

Matthew 27:3-6



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Posted : 28 Dec, 2020 08:47 AM

in John 17:12, Jesus prays concerning His disciples, “While I was with them, I protected them and kept them safe by that name you gave me. None has been lost except the one doomed to destruction so that Scripture would be fulfilled.” At one time, though, Judas believed that Jesus was a prophet, or possibly even believed He was the Messiah. Jesus sent the disciples out to proclaim the gospel and perform miracles (Luke 9:1-6). Judas was included in this group. Judas had faith, but it was not a true saving faith. Judas was never “saved,” but for a time he was a follower of Christ

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Posted : 28 Dec, 2020 08:52 AM

To be a Disciple of Jesus s man had to be discipleship tested.





Luke 14:25-35



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Moonlight7

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Posted : 28 Dec, 2020 01:47 PM

Judas had Faith in Jesus as the Messiah.

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Posted : 28 Dec, 2020 02:04 PM

Judas Iscariot was one of the original twelve Apostles iof Jesus.



John 13:27



After the morsel, Satan then entered into him. Therefore Jesus said to him, "What you do, do quickly."

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Posted : 28 Dec, 2020 02:04 PM

Judas Iscariot was one of the original twelve Apostles iof Jesus.



John 13:27



After the morsel, Satan then entered into him. Therefore Jesus said to him, "What you do, do quickly."

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Posted : 29 Dec, 2020 03:05 AM

yes satan entered into judas, as told beforehand, (enters into all the wicked).



The prayers of the wicked also are sin, waiting for the day of judgement.



Another takes the office of the wicked.



The children of the wicked of the flesh, are cursed. They are without father, without chastisement and not sons.



The name of the wicked is blotted out and the sin is remembered.



The wicked is cut off from memory of the earth.



Because they persecute the good, and they give no mercy, thy give curse, they receive the same, they give no blessing, they receive none..



Psalm 109:6 Set thou a wicked man over him: and let Satan stand at his right hand.

7 When he shall be judged, let him be condemned: and let his prayer become sin.

8 Let his days be few; and let another take his office.

9 Let his children be fatherless, and his wife a widow.

10 Let his children be continually vagabonds, and beg: let them seek their bread also out of their desolate places.

11 Let the extortioner catch all that he hath; and let the strangers spoil his labour.

12 Let there be none to extend mercy unto him: neither let there be any to favour his fatherless children.

13 Let his posterity be cut off; and in the generation following let their name be blotted out.

14 Let the iniquity of his fathers be remembered with the Lord; and let not the sin of his mother be blotted out.

15 Let them be before the Lord continually, that he may cut off the memory of them from the earth.

16 Because that he remembered not to shew mercy, but persecuted the poor and needy man, that he might even slay the broken in heart.

17 As he loved cursing, so let it come unto him: as he delighted not in blessing, so let it be far from him.



Acts 1:20 For it is written in the book of Psalms, Let his habitation be desolate, and let no man dwell therein: and his bishoprick let another take.

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Posted : 29 Dec, 2020 03:45 AM

Your right Moon that Judas LOST his salvation because Judas wanted to force the Messiah to prove Himself of who He was before the Sanhedrin! Another words Judas wanted things his way, a sinners way and chose to NOT follow Yah'shua the Messiah any longer! He once was follower, then chose to follow his own plan and be lost !



Judas DID originally have faith in the Messiah and was CHOSEN to be an APOSTLE of the original TWELVE! THEN he chose to LET satan enter him, to follow satan and die a continual sinner! OUCH!



The problem is that David, Quiz and rsvp that attend the 'church' of 'once saved always saved' don't want to understand that we are ALWAYS FREE WILL creatures that can CHOSE to be saved by FAITH or have faith in ourselves and go back to sinning! They love their sins too much to have the fear in them of the consequences of continual sinning come judgment day, so they use the cop out method that 'Judas was never saved to begin with' and could not change his mind on who he followed on a daily basis, just like we can chose to do everyday. Right Moon?



That's why the Bible says very few make it to the kingdom, that is those that rightly chose the narrow path that ADAM7777 taught in his many threads.

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Posted : 29 Dec, 2020 06:28 PM

Flat Teddy, there’s NO scripture indicating that Judas was ever saved but plenty indicating he was a “devil.”

You also think there’s scripture indicting the earth is flat, which isn’t true. That’s in addition to the other pagan beliefs you hold.

Would it be nice if you just read the Bible and let it speak for itself instead of blindly following Adam and the rest of your incompetent leaders?

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Posted : 30 Dec, 2020 07:27 AM

God gave man free will.



That seems man can make his own choices.



Whether good or bad choices.

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