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Very helpful notes further refuting sinless perfectionism posted on this forum by AboundingGrace and another by Quiznos
Posted : 12 Aug, 2020 10:51 AM

AboundingGrace

Romans 3:23



for all sinned (past tense)



Two bible translations before the kjv, the bishops and Geneva versions, add the word "are" to make the correct sense of the rest of the verse.



Bishops: and are destitute of the glory of God



Geneva: and are deprived of the glory of God



the phrase in the kjv with the word "have" makes the reader think that "have" goes with the last part of the verse. "for all have sinned and come short of the glory of God." The idea is that, yes, all sinned, but also, all continue to fall short and are continually lacking of God's glory. I don't know what the kjv translators intended here. But it is the present tense, we continually fall short of God's glory.

Can’t find Quiznos quote for the moment concerning “paste tense” usage. I’ll copy and paste it when I find it or happy to have Quiznos repost it

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Posted : 12 Aug, 2020 11:45 AM

Littlest David: Quiznos never refuted over 4 of his quotes claiming he believes in **SINLESS PERFECTION** and you are the big **LIAR*



QUIZNOS AND ADAM7777 BELIEVE IN THE SATANIC DOCTRINE OF SINLESS PERFECTION AFTER SAVATION???



QUIZNOS QUOTE:



"IF WE SIN ON PURPOSE AFTER WE RECEIVE THE KNOWLEDGE OF THE TRUTH THERE IS **NO MORE** FORGIVENESS FOR OUR SINS NO MORE SACRIFICING OF CHRIST FOR US???"



AND LITTLEST DAVID DEFENDS THEIR RIDICULOUS SATANIC DOCTRINE OF SINLESS PERFECTION**!!**!!



**BUT WHAT DOES GOD'S WORD SAY**??



Luke 11:1-4: The **DISCIPLES** asked Jesus, "Lord teach **US** to pray." Jesus replied **TO HIS DISCIPLES**, "When you pray, say: '**FATHER**, hallowed be your name, your kingdom come. Give us each day our **DAILY** bread. **FORGIVE US OUR SINS**, for we also forgive everyone who sins against us!'"



James 5:16: **CONFESS YOUR SINS** to each other and pray for each other!!



Revelation 3:19: Jesus says, "Those whom I love I rebuke and discipline, so be earnest and **REPENT**!!" {**OF YOUR SINS**!!}



Hebrews 12:5-11: Do not make light of the Lord's discipline, and do not lose heart when He rebukes you, because the Lord disciplines those He loves, and He chastens **EVERYONE** HE ACCEPTS AS A SON**!!! Endure hardship as discipline; God is treating you as His children. For what children are not disciplined by their father {FOR THEIR SINS**}? If you are not disciplined--and everyone undergoes discipline--**THEN YOU ARE NOT LEGITIMATE**, not true sons and daughters at all. Moreover, we have all had human fathers who disciplined us{FOR OUR SINS!} and we respected them for it. How much more should we submit to the Father of spirits and live! They disciplined us for a little while as they thought best; but God disciplines us for our good, in order that we may share in His holiness. No discipline seems pleasant at the time, but painful. Later on, however, it produces a harvest of righteousness and peace for those who have been trained by it!



Galatians 6:1: Brothers, if someone is caught in a sin, you who are spiritual should restore him gently. But watch yourself, or you may also be tempted. Carry each others burdens, and in this way you fulfill the law of Christ!!

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Posted : 12 Aug, 2020 12:43 PM

Dave,

Quiznos:

Romans 3 verses 23 - 24

21 But now, apart from the law, the righteousness of God has been revealed, as attested by the Law and the Prophets.

22 And this righteousness from God comes through faith in Jesus Christ to all who believe. There is no distinction,

23 for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God,

24 and are justified freely by His grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus.



Hugs, you believe in verse 23 ' All have sinned ' is in the past tense.

This is a VERB, in the Aorist indicative ACTIVE tense in the 3rd person.

GOD Almighty sees man over the length of his life, as HE is outside of time.

In the active tense man continues to sin throughout their lives, even believers.

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Posted : 12 Aug, 2020 02:16 PM

From my 1599 Geneva Bible - Romans 3:23 "21. But now is the righteousness of God made manifest without the Law, having witness of the Law, and of the Prophets, 22. To wit, the righteousness of God by the faith of [z]Jesus Christ, unto all, and upon all that believe. 23. For there is no difference: >>>for all have sinned,<<< and >are deprived< of the [aa]glory of God, Note friends how so called "AboundingGrace" claims no POWER (which is also Grace) to NOT twist what the KJV says to that of his coveted "bishops and Geneva versions" THAT SAY THE SAME THING, yet claims (by opinion) two words changes everything - "for all have sinned and come short of the glory of God." Then so called "AboundingGrace" adds his opinion that makes no sense - "the phrase in the kjv with the word "have" makes the reader think that "have" goes with the last part of the verse. "for all have sinned and come short of the glory of God." Who are YOU to tell us what we think when we read that verse, so called "AboundingGrace"??? And what about "that last part of the verse" you claim changes everything (???) and contradicts the REST (there's your "rest" time Quizzy!) of the Bible, of the POWER of YHWH to KEEP KEEP KEEP you from sinning???

So called "AboundingGrace" once again attempts to pollute the Scriptures when he says - ">>>all continue<<< to fall short and >>>are continually lacking<<< of God's glory. I don't know what the kjv translators intended here. But it is the present tense, >>>we continually fall short of God's glory.<<<

Why not use your common sense and reasoning so that you don't claim contradictions in the Bible with other verses listed at the end of my post below???

KJV - For all have (had-past) sinned (not currently sinning!), and come short (in past times) of the glory of YHWH.

GENEVA - For there is no difference: for all have (had-past) sinned (not currently sinning!), and are deprived (in times past) of the [aa]glory of YHWH,

So where is the difference again in those verses my false teaching friend? Nothing other than your HANG UP on the word "deprived" in your reasoning skills to that of the CONTEXT of the rest of the Bible on the TRUE Righteousness by FAITH verses! Correct? There is a huge difference in meaning between words like "continue" and "continually" to that of the word "deprived" my clueless friend, right? Anyone can look up those definitions with so much of the "AboundingGrace" that you have! LOL!

Good grief so MUCH "AboundingGrace", what kind of abounding grace (weak power) is that you have, from the devil of LIARS like pathetic7744??? Change your name then to "I wish by FAITH I had the abounding POWER of YHWH to tell the truth" There I fixed it for you! Now repent and >>>be<<< (present tense) saved again! At least I hope you have (note the correct past tense here) been (past tense) saved once (in the past) upon a time in your life from your PAST sins anyway?

Here let me help you with your new JW bible translation, when you get it published anyway - cultized romans 3:23 - "For all will "continue" to sin, they just cannot help themselves but to "continually" sin, and THEREFORE they will always come short (but somehow they are righteous anyway living in sin?) of the glory of (powerless?) YHWH. There did I fix it for you false teacher?

1 John 4:4 "Ye are (present tense) of YHWH, little children, and have (present tense) >>>overcome them:<<< (and those sins of past) because greater (not lesser as you claim in your ever "AboundingGrace"/POWER) is >>>He (YHWH's set apart Holy Spirit) that is >>>in you<<< (oh really friends CAN it be the Spirit can get victory over our sins THRU and in us?), than he (satan the accuser, much like others on this forum that work for him) that (presently) is in the (this) world.

BUT BUT BUT John LIED to us you say!? Because you all love your pet sins, that why you THINK he lied! Well lets look at another "liar" that you will claim without saying it directly and call HIM out like all the Scripture that ADAM7777 CONTEXTUALLY gives! Who is that you say?

Matthew 5:48 Yah'shua says - Be (present tense) >>>ye therefore perfect<<< (present and future tense), even as your Father which is in heaven is (always been perfect, we HAD been(all past tense) not perfect THEN) perfect.

BUT BUT BUT no my LOVING Messiah, I don't want to call you a liar but but but pathetic7744, David and others on the forum say we will always sin! So please change your words to "Try to be perfect but I know you cannot by my Fathers set apart powerless Spirit that I had when I walked the earth as an example to you and I promise to change you into a robot one day so that you don't choose to sin anymore, ok? In fact I'm going to change everybody into a ROBOT (like Richard7744 teaches "predestination" as you are forced to be what you are!) rather they like it or not, so they cannot sin and so everyone will have eternal life, you see? Selah!

And there are a TON more verses that teach REAL life Righteousness by the Faith! And WHERE does that POWER come from?

The Righteousness of YHWH by the faith of Yah'shua , said in previous verse 22, MUCH "Abounding (of not much) Grace" left out in the Geneva Bible I listed above for the Pharisee "blind guides" here on this forum!

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Posted : 12 Aug, 2020 04:53 PM

Funny Flat Teddy of Teddy’s Flat Earth Comedy Encore!! Thanks for helping refute your and Adam’s heretical sinless perfectionism for me.

Your flat earth gig is really funny but the fact you’re deceived by the heretical sinless perfectionism isn’t so funny.

And even though you’ve made my job refuting you much easier, it’s kinda sad at the same time because you and Adam both continue to sin as evidenced by your false teachings on the forum. As you both keep sinning, you both keep claiming your heretical sinless perfectionism—-and your false flat earth series.

Too you guys the holiness of God is but a very low standard that you think you’ve achieved while still incarcerated in a sinful human body.

Sadly, it’s obvious to everyone on the forums that your sin nature is alive and well—quite active I might ad—as you keep demonstrating with nearly every additional post

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Posted : 13 Aug, 2020 01:03 AM

DARKNESS CANNOT COMPREHEND GOD WHO IS LIGHT



THE SON OF GOD DECLARED THE FATHER TO THIS DARKNESS WORLD OF MAN...



John 1:5 And the light shineth in darkness; and THE DARKNESS COMPRE4HENDED IT NOT.



John 1:18 No man hath seen God at any time, the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath DECLARED HIM.



THIS IS THE MESSAGE DECLARED TO THE DARKNESS OF MEN..



GOD IS LIGHT AND TYOU CANNOT FELLOWSHIP WITH HIM IN ANY OF YOUR DARKNESS..



1 John 1:5 This then is the message which we have heard of him,AND DECLARE UNTO YOU , that God is light, and in him is no darkness at all.

6 If we say that we have fellowship with him, and WALK IN DARKNESS, WE LIE,, and do not the truth:

7 But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin.

8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.

9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.



ITS REPENTING OF ALL DARKNESS THEN CLEANSED OF ALL DARKNESS/UNRIGHTEOUSNESS BY JESUS CHRIST



CONTINUES, WE FORSAKE THE SINS TO HAVE MERCY..



Proverbs 28:13 He that covereth his sins shall not prosper: but whoso CONFESSTH AND FORSAKETH them shall have mercy.



AS THE MERCY WE SHOW REJOICES OVER GODS JUDGEMENT..



James 2:13 For he shall have judgment without mercy, that hath shewed no mercy; and mercy rejoiceth against judgment.



THE CHASRITY CHRIST GIVES INTO US COVERS THE MULTITUDE OF SINS WHEN WE WALK IN PERFECT CHARITY...



1 Peter 4:8 And above all things have fervent charity among yourselves: for charity shall cover the multitude of sins.



IT IS BLESSED TO HAVE OUR SINS COVERED ( FORSAKEN ALSO)



Romans 4:7 Saying, Blessed are they whose iniquities are forgiven, and whose sins are covered.



AS GOD SENT HIS SON TO BLESS US IN TURNING US AWAY FROM ALL INIQUITY..



Acts 3:26 Unto you first God, having raised up his Son Jesus, sent him to bless you, in turning away every one of you from his iniquities.



UNGODLINESS IS TURNED AWAY FROM JACOB, THIS IS THE CIVENANT HE MAKES WITH US WHEN GOD TAKES AWAY OUR SINS (AS PER 1 JOHN 1 CLEANSES US OF ALL UNRIGHTEOUSNESS)...



Romans 11:26 And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:

27 For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins.



AS CHRIST GAVE HIMSELF FOR US TO FREDEEM US FROM ALL INIQUITY...



Titus 2:14 Who gave himself for us, that he might redeem us from all iniquity, and purify unto himself a peculiar people, zealous of good works.



ALSO CHRIST HAS ALRTEADY DECLARED, ALL WORKERS OF INIQUITY ARE TO DEPART FROM HIM WHO CALL HIM LORD LORD..



Luke 13:27 But he shall say, I tell you, I know you not whence ye are; depart from me, all ye workers of iniquity.

28 There shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth, when ye shall see Abraham, and Isaac, and Jacob, and all the prophets, in the kingdom of God, and you yourselves thrust out.





SHIOW ISRAEL, AND THOSE OF THE FIRST COIVENANT AND THE LAW THEIR SINS



THEY DELIGHT TO KNOW GODS WAYS



AND DELIGHT APPROACHING TO GOD...



Isaiah 58:Cry aloud, spare not, lift up thy voice like a trumpet, and SHEW MY PEOPLE THEIR TRANSGRESSIONS, and the house of Jacob THEIR SINS.

2 Yet they seek me daily, AND DELIGHT TO KNOW MY WAYS, as a nation that did righteousness, and forsook not the ordinance of their God: they ask of me the ordinances of justice; THEY DELIGHT IN APPROACHING TO GOD.



EVIL/SIN DWELLS IN ALL THOSE OF THE FIRST COVENANT, THOSE BELIEVING IN THE LAW OF SIN AND DEATH



FOR THEY DELIGHT IN THE LAW OF GOD ( THE LAW OF THE FIRST CIVENANT)



BUT SADLY THEY OBEY THE LAW OF SIN AND DEATH..



Romans 7:20 Now if I do that I would not, it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me.

21 I find then a law, that, when I would do good, evil is present with me.

22 FOR I DELIGHT IN THE LAW OF GOD after the inward man:

23 But I see another law in my members, warring against the law of my mind, and bringing me into CAPTIVITY TO THE LAW OF SIN which is IN MY MEMBERS.



Romans 7:5 For when we were in the FLESH, THE MOTIONS OF SINS, WHUCH WERE BY THE LAW, did WORK IN OUR MEMBERS TO BRING FRUIT UNTO DEATH.



Romans 8:2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me FREE FROM THE LAW OF SIN AND DEATH.

3 For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, CONDEMNED SIN IN THE FLESH:

4 That the RIGHTEOUSNESS OF THE LAW MIGHT BE FULFILLED IN US, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.

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Posted : 13 Aug, 2020 01:55 AM

Adam,



Once again you reveal how you understand or do not understand how to read, and study the Scriptures.



You do as most people, you think of a subject, then you find as many scripture to fit into your subject, yet you never give the entire context that refutes your understanding.







John writes, 1 John 1 verse 5 - 10



5 This is the message we have heard from Him and announce to you, that God is Light, and in Him there is no darkness at all.



6 If we say that we have fellowship with Him and yet walk in the darkness, we lie and do not practice the truth;



7 but if we walk in the Light as He Himself is in the Light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus His Son cleanses us from all sin.



8 If we say that we have no sin, we are deceiving ourselves and the truth is not in us.



9 If we confess our sins, He is faithful and righteous to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.



10 If we say that we have not sinned, we make Him a liar and His word is not in us.







Verse 9, to cleanse, this is in the PRESENT indicative ACTIVE tense, meaning GOD Almighty is always cleansing us, as we are not completely SINLESS in this life.

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Posted : 13 Aug, 2020 02:05 AM

Titus 2:14 Who gave himself for us, that he might redeem us from all iniquity, and PURIFY UNTO HIMSELF a peculiar people, zealous of good works.



1 John 3:3 And every man that hath this hope in him PURIFIETH HIMSELF, EVEN AS HE IS PURE.

4 Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.

5 And ye know that he was manifested to take away our sins; and in him is no sin.

6 Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him.

7 Little children, let no man deceive you: HE THAT DOETH RIGHTEOUSNESS IS RIGHTEOUS, EVEN AS HE IS RIGHTEOUS.

8 HE THAT COMMITETH SIN IS OF THE DEVIL; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.

9 Whosoever is BORN OF GOD DOTH NOT COMMIT SIN; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.

10 In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil: whosoever doeth not righteousness is not of God, neither he that loveth not his brother.



James 4:5 Do ye think that the scripture saith in vain, The spirit that dwelleth in us lusteth to envy?

6 But he giveth more grace. Wherefore he saith, God resisteth the proud, but giveth grace unto the humble.

7 Submit yourselves therefore to God. RESIST THE DEVIL AND HE WILL FLEE FROM YOU.

8 Draw nigh to God, and he will draw nigh to you. CLEANSE YOUR HANDS, YE SINNERS, and PURIFY YOUR HEARTS, ye double minded.



Hebrews 9:13 For if the blood of bulls and of goats, and the ashes of an heifer sprinkling the unclean, SANCTIFIETH FOR THER PURIFYING OF THE FLESH:

14 How much more shall THE BLOOD OF CHRIST, who through THE ETERNAL SPIRIT offered himself WITHOUT SPOT to God, PURGE YOUR CONSCIENCE from dead works to serve the living God?



Psalm 24:3 Who shall ascend into the hill of the Lord? or who shall stand in his holy place?

4 He that hath clean hands, and A PURE HEART; who hath not lifted up his soul unto vanity, nor sworn deceitfully.

5 He shall receive the BLESSING FROM THE LORD, and RIGHTEOUSNESS from the GOD of HIS SALVATION.

6 This is the GENERATION of THEM THAT SEEK HIM, that seek thy face, O Jacob. Selah.



Matthew 5:5 Blessed are the MEEK: for they shall inherit the earth.

6 Blessed are they which do hunger and thirst AFTER RIGHTEOUSNESS: for they shall be filled.

7 Blessed are THE MERCIFUL: for they SHALL OBTAIN MERCY.

8 Blessed are THE PURE IN HEART: for they shall SEE GOD.



2 Corinthians 6:3 Giving NO OFFENCE IN ANY THING, that the ministry be not blamed:

4 But in all things APPROVING OURSELVES as the ministers of God, in much patience, in afflictions, in necessities, in distresses,

5 In stripes, in imprisonments, in tumults, in labours, in watchings, in fastings;

6 BY PURENESS, by knowledge, by long suffering, BY KINDNESS, by the Holy Ghost, by LOVE UNFEIGNED,



1 Timothy 1:5 Now the end of the commandment is CHARITY OUT OF A PURE HEART, and OF A GOOD CONSCIENCE, and OF FAITH UNFEIGNED:



1 Timothy 3:9 Holding the mystery of the FAITH IN A OURE CONSCIENCE.



1 Timothy 5:22 Lay hands suddenly on no man, neither be partaker of other men's sins: KEEP THYSELF PURE.



2 Timothy 1:3 I thank God, whom I serve from my forefathers WITH PURE CONSCIENCE, that without ceasing I have remembrance of thee in my prayers night and day;



2 Timothy 2:22 Flee also youthful lusts: but follow RIGHTEOUSNESS, faith, charity, peace, with them that CALL ON THE LORD OUT OF A PURE HEART.



Titus 1:15 UNTO THE PURE ALL THINGS ARE PURE: but unto them that are defiled and unbelieving is nothing pure; but even their mind and conscience is defiled.



1 Peter 1:22 Seeing ye have PURIFIED YOUR SOULS IN OBEYING THE TRUTH THROUGH THE SPIRIT unto unfeigned love of the brethren, see that ye love one another WITH A PURE HEART FERVENTLY:



2 Peter 3:1 This second epistle, beloved, I now write unto you; in both which I stir up YOUR PURE MINDS by way of remembrance:

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Posted : 13 Aug, 2020 05:55 AM

Its really getting quite hilarious in how Quizzy is geting owned by ADAM7777 simple method of exposing Quizzy of his obvious error with CONTEXTUAL verses on the subject of RIGHTEOUSNESS By FAITH living! So proven here below now, it is Dizzy Quizzy that has NOW revealed that he does NOT understand nor understand how to read, and study the Scriptures in FULL Bible context. not ADAM7777!



You see Quizzy does as most CULTIST do, thinks of a subject, takes it out of context to the ENTIRE Bible, gives it his own words THEN to fit into his agenda subject thinking, yet he never gives the entire BIBLE context that refutes in what he claims to refute! Lol!



Wow Dizzy Quizzy you just keep getting OWNED by all of ADAM7777 continual verses that teach Righteousness by FAITH in living by YHWH's set part Spirit POWER to keep us from sinning! I know your FAILED system of no entire Bible context on the subject is your problem and ADAM7777 is attempting to wake you up in your interpretation that the Bible has contradictions, which of course it does not! Note in verse 6, that "IF" we chose to "WALK IN DARKNESS, WE LIE and do not (live presently) the truth" just as ADAM7777 correctly says! can you actually READ verses Quizzy???



1 John 1:5 This then is the message which we have heard of him,AND DECLARE UNTO YOU , that God is light, and in him is no darkness at all.



6 If we say that we have fellowship with him, and WALK IN DARKNESS, WE LIE,, and do not the truth:



7 But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin.



8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.



9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness



Dizzy Quizzy singles out verse 9 of 1 John 1, always claiming OTHERS are taking the subject out of context when he does himself! The pot calling the kettle black! LOL!



But he ONLY gives his interpretation of verse 9 in his own reasoning abilities but FAILS to reason out the rest (for Quizzy ALSO claims no Sabbath rest Day either in its context to the word rest in Christ to that of rest in Sabbath Day) of 1 John 1 verses??? Odd!



For he says - 9. "to cleanse, this is in the PRESENT indicative ACTIVE tense, meaning GOD Almighty is >>>always cleansing us,<<< as >>>we are not completely SINLESS in this life."<<<



Well good golly miss molly, the big DUUUUUUH Dizzy Quizzy uses his reasoning abilities for all present tense in verse 9 but FAILS to understand CONTEXT to the subject that verse 8 is present tense and past tense! But note how he ADDS words to the Bible like - >>>always cleansing us,<<< as >>>we are not completely SINLESS in this life."<<< but what does verse 8 say without Quizzies corruption of addition?



8. For "If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.



So "If we say we have" NEVER sinned or no sin before (in the past when we CHOSE to sin or presently when we deny obeying the set apart Spirit of YHWH to sin presently), we deceive ourselves (presently if we chose to sin and in past saying we NEVER sinned!) and sooo THEREFORE the truth is not in us (presently, nor was it in our past by our choices!).



THEN to verse 9, Sooooooo IF IF IF we should CHOSE to sin again (presently), to deny that PERFECT guidance and POWER (Grace) from YHWH the Father thru His set apart Spirit of Himself (Quizzy leaves out of the WHOLE Bible context subject of YHWH's perfection Spirit) yet "confess our sins" (Quizzy use to JUST call it UNBELIEF, never identifying the sin word, his strange doctrine then, now he has changed his mind?) He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins (our present sins IF IF IF we chose to sin that is!) and to cleanse us (the promise!) from all unrighteousness!



You see the HUGE problem with Quizzy is that he is soooooo Dizzy that he actually thinks satan is more powerful in his life than YHWH is! He calls his pagan deity gud or good "God ALMIGHTY" but then He is STRANGELY a weakling and not so "ALMIGHTY" after all? The core issue is Quizzys FAITH, he just seems to claim very little or none! He just cannot fathom the idea

that "greater is He (YHWH by His set apart Spirit) is in us than he (the devil) is in the world"



Wow! So he thinks the rest of us don't have any faith like him in and OF YHWH's set apart Spirit. He will have to live with his choices of "continually sinning" that the Bible does not teach for us to do!



Romans 3:23 For all have sinned (past tense), and come short (in the past before being converted, born again) of the glory of YHWH!



Quizzy in all his Dizziness thinks being born again is to be born again into "continually sinning" like a pink energizer bunny with no end! YHWH's set apart Spirit is useless to Quizzy to keep him from sinning BECAUSE of the Quizzy useless FAITH, which is NO FAITH! But come on Quizzy, we are NOT all unFAITHful like you, ok?

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Posted : 13 Aug, 2020 06:22 AM

Your bad character On here and Self righteousness shows Men are not sinless.

What stupidness.



Walls of Scripture doesn't make YOU tight.



Get guidance from God cause you don't have that Yet.



Teddyhug

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Posted : 13 Aug, 2020 06:24 AM

"right"







You're definitely not teachers. Anyone that follows you are not going to know Truth .



God bless

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