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Posted : 17 May, 2020 04:07 PM

Should We Call Out False Teachers or Ignore Them?

Hey, everyone. A production note before we begin:

Pastor John, here’s a question from Caden in Boca Raton, Florida. “Hello, Pastor John! After seeing the documentary American Gospel, I was conflicted because I’m not sure if I am supposed to call out false teachers. Second Peter 2:1–3 makes it obvious that there will be false teachers, but the text also does not say we should point them out. I have heard both sides to this argument, but I’m still not sure. I want to be careful to not ‘pronounce judgment before the time’ (1 Corinthians 4:5). Does this passage apply here in this situation? Are we taking a judgment that isn’t ours? Or should we rest in God’s ultimate knowledge? And if a prominent false teacher is to be called out, who does this — where and how?”

Maybe it would be helpful to step back first and get the bigger picture of the New Testament response to those who live and teach in ways that lead others into error and ruin, and then zero in on 1 Corinthians 4:5 for some guidelines for how we should speak and write about such people.

Beware the Wolves

So let’s begin with Jesus. Matthew 7:15: “Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing but inwardly are ravenous wolves.” And the word beware means all of us should be alert, but especially shepherds, to identify not just false teaching, but false teachers, whose ways are subtle. They’re clothing themselves with lamb’s wool while they’re wolves.

And Paul used the same Greek word for beware in Acts 20:28–29 when he said, “Pay careful attention to yourselves and to all the flock, in which the Holy Spirit has made you overseers. . . . I know that after my departure fierce wolves will come in among you, not sparing the.”

“In order to protect the flock, we should expose false teachers and minimize the spread of the gangrene.” Tweet Share on Facebook

Jesus used the same word again in Matthew 16:6, but he got more specific: “Watch and beware of the leaven of the Pharisees and Sadducees.” Paul had the same kind of group in mind and the same kind of error in mind in Philippians 3:2 and 3:18: “Look out for the dogs, look out for the evildoers, look out for those who mutilate the flesh.” And then verse 18: “For many, of whom I have often told you and now tell you even with tears, walk as enemies of the cross of Christ.” Then in Romans 16:17, he warned, “Watch out for those who cause divisions and create obstacles contrary to the doctrine that you have been taught; avoid them.”

Avoid, Rebuke, Call Out

To avoid them, you have to know who they are. You can’t avoid somebody if you don’t know who they are. This idea of identifying and avoiding shows up in 1 Corinthians 5:11; 2 Thessalonians 3:6, 14; 2 Timothy 3:5; 2 John 10. In other words, Christians, and shepherds in particular, should be discerning and alert to behavior and teaching that dishonors Christ and destroys people — and not treat it in a casual or harmless way.

And then in 1 Timothy 5:19–20, Paul went beyond just “avoid them” to “rebuke them publicly.” So, speaking of elders who persist in error, he said, “Do not admit a charge against an elder except on the evidence of two or three witnesses. As for those who persist in sin” — and that can be sin of false doctrine or sin of evil behavior, anyone who does not accept correction — “rebuke them in the presence of all, so that the rest may stand in fear..”

And then Paul went on and actually named destructive false teachers:

“Demas, in love with this present world, has deserted me” (2 Timothy 4:10).

“You are aware that all who are in Asia turned away from me, among whom are Phygelus and Hermogenes” (2 Timothy 1:15).

“By rejecting this [faith and a good conscience], some have made shipwreck of their faith, among whom are Hymenaeus and Alexander” (1 Timothy 1:19–20).

“Their talk will spread like gangrene. Among them are Hymenaeus and Philetus” (2 Timothy 2:17).

Paul names at least six false teachers that the church should watch out for.

So, I infer from Jesus and Paul and Luke and John that false teaching and destructive behavior are present dangers in this fallen world for the church. And all of us — especially shepherds, pastors — should be alert and discerning to identify and, in appropriate ways, expose. In order to protect the flock, we should expose them and minimize the spread of the gangrene (as Paul calls it).

Expose Evil

Now, in 1 Corinthians 4:5, Paul is talking about how the Corinthians should assess Paul and Cephas and Apollos, because the people are choosing sides and boasting in their favorite teacher. He says,

I am not aware of anything against myself, but I am not thereby acquitted. It is the Lord who judges me. Therefore do not pronounce judgment before the time, before the Lord comes, who will bring to light the things now hidden in darkness and will disclose the purposes of the heart. Then each one [Paul, Cephas, Apollos] will receive his commendation from God. (1 Corinthians 4:4–5)

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So Caden is asking whether the words “do not pronounce judgment before the time” should keep us from identifying false teachers or from naming them. I don’t think so. “Don’t pronounce judgment before the time” means “Don’t do what only Christ can do at that last day — on the day of judgment.” Don’t presume to know the heart like Jesus will know the heart on that day. Only Christ “will bring to light the things now hidden in darkness and will disclose the purposes of the heart.”

But for now, our job is indeed to do mouth judgment, writing judgment, behavior judgment — not a heart judgment, but mouth and writing and behavior judgment. When a mouth speaks unbiblical, destructive teaching, when a blog or an article or a book publishes unbiblical and destructive teaching, when a body — a human body, a physical body — behaves with unbiblical and destructive behavior, in all these cases, we are to be discerning. And according to Ephesians 5:11, we are to expose the error. “Take no part in the unfruitful works of darkness, but instead expose them.” “Censure them; show them to be wrong” is what the word elegchō means.

Five Factors for Calling Out False Teachers

So the question is how and when — not if. And here I think the Bible calls for wisdom, rather than telling us who and when and how. The question we ask is this: How can we best — in our situation, with our gifts and our responsibilities — help the most people believe and live the most truth, and how can we protect the most people from destructive beliefs and behaviors?

And here are five factors perhaps to consider when deciding whether to name a false teacher publicly.

The seriousness and deceitfulness of the error.

The size of the audience. Is it growing?

The duration of their ministry. Did they make one blunder or are they constantly doing it?

The vulnerability of the people for whom you are responsible.

The role you have in influencing shepherds who really need to be discerning for who the false teachers are.

When you do name a false teacher, it’s best to do it in a setting where you do more than name-drop. You explain the error, you give reasons for rejecting it, you communicate complexities, you set a tone of longing for truth and love — you’re not just slinging mud.

The last thing I would say is to let your teaching be so powerful in clarifying the greatness and the beauty and the worth of God’s truth that your people will smell error before it infects their lives. The shape of error is always changing. You can’t preach enough negative sermons to stay ahead of it. And you don’t have to. The best protection against the darkness of error is the light of truth.

John Piper (@JohnPiper) is founder and teacher of desiringGod.org and chancellor of Bethlehem College & Seminary. For 33 years, he served as pastor of Bethlehem Baptist Church, Minneapolis, Minnesota. He is author of more than 50 books, including Desiring God: Meditations of a Christian Hedonist and most recently Coronavirus and Christ.

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Posted : 17 May, 2020 04:12 PM

I posted another thread about false teachers, boy, all the worldly “love Christians” are REALLY gonna hate me even more for rebuking their false prophet!! I already feel the “love”!!! OUCH!!’

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Posted : 17 May, 2020 05:49 PM

So are you constructing an argument with this thread or are you actually asking the question posed in the thread title?

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Posted : 17 May, 2020 05:56 PM

Both

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Posted : 17 May, 2020 06:03 PM

Okay. I've seen you sparring with others on these forums for a while now. What are you doing different that sets you apart from them so that the casual observer knows they should believe you over them?

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Posted : 17 May, 2020 06:51 PM

Sorry I was away for a bit. Got several fires burning at once.

Awesome question!!!

I believe the Bible is entirely true. Many on here think the Bible is too hard to understand so they assume no one can be sure what it really means.

Others unwittingly accept that the molecules to man theory of evolution. They think it is real science and can be used to explain the origins narrative from Genesis 1&2.

Others are so uninformed, they can’t discern where science begins and philosophy ends.

Still others don’t realize how profoundly influenced by evolution their worldview has become. For example, when scientists speak of billons of years they believe it not realizing they’ve swallowed a doctrine of evolution.

Lastly, I believe biblical revelation trumps science because revelation doesn’t require constant revision as new information is uncovered like certain theories of science do.. Don’t get me wrong, I love science. I just realize it’s limitations.

That may or may not answer your question. But feel free to grill me

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Posted : 17 May, 2020 06:55 PM

I typed kinda fast and manage to type in a few grammar errors mixed in there, sorry

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Posted : 17 May, 2020 07:10 PM

One other thing. I’ve hammered away on the following 2 items repeatedly.

Up to now, I have not had a single person here directly agree with me on the importance of these 2 items!!!

First, we MUST apply the historical-grammatical hermeneutic approach to understanding scripture. That shouldn’t surprise anyone because that is basically how you’re interpreting what I’m saying to you right now.

Second, we MUST NEVER divorce a portion of scripture from it’s original context!!

Both of these principles are constantly violated on this forum

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Posted : 17 May, 2020 07:19 PM

Thank you for your response, but I'm afraid it doesn't answer my question. I am asking about behaviors. Your answer is focused on beliefs. Beliefs are subject to change as new information comes to light. Beliefs can be different for different people even though they are confronted with the same information. Beliefs are also subject to debate, especially when no person was alive to witness the events in question.

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Posted : 17 May, 2020 08:43 PM

I Corinthians 11:14-16: Does not the very nature of things teach that if a **MAN HAS LONG HAIR** it is a **DISGRACE** to him, but that if a woman has long hair, it is her glory? If anyone wants to be contentious about this {Like LittlestDavid} we have no other practice--nor do the **CHURCHES OF GOD**!**



Unfortunately many of the modern churches rock and roll singers have Satanic **LONG HAIR**



LittlestDavid insists that Jesus had long hair and a long beard because of the Old Testament verse in Leviticus 19:27:



Leviticus 19:27: Do not cut your hair at the sides of your head or clip off the edges of your beard.



However beards are mentioned 17 times in the Old Testamt but are **NOT EVEN MENTIONED ONCE IN THE NEW TESTAMENT.**



Then Littlest Davud quotes Isaiah 50:6: "I offered my back to those who beat me, my cheeks to those who pulled out my **BEARD**." and falsely claims that this prophesy refers to the beard of Jesus. However I am sure David noticed that this man could not be Jesus because in Isaiah 50:1 this man was a **SINNER**!



Isaiah 50:1: Because of your **SINS** you were sold, because of your **TRANSGRESSIONS** your mother has sent you away!



I John 2:3-5: We know that we have come to know Him {Jesus} if we keep His commands. Whoever says, "I know Him," but does not do what He commandsis a liar and the truth is not in him.If anyone obeys His Word, love for Godis truly made complete in them. This is how we know that we are in Him: Whoever claims to live in Him must live as Jesus did!



John 16:13-14: Jesus says, "I have much more to say to you, more than you can now bear, But when he, the spirit of truth, comes, he will guide you into all the truth. He will **NOT SPEAK ON HIS OWN**; he will speak only what he hears, and he will tell you what is yet to come. He will **GLORIFY ME** because it is **FROM ME**that he will receive what he will make known to you!"



And so Jesus told the holy spirit what to inspire the 8 writers of the New Testament exactly what to write in the 27 books of the New Testament!



Hebrews 12:1,2: Let us run with perseverance the race marked out for us, **FIXING OUR EYES ON JESUS**, the **AUTHOR** and **PERFECTER** of our faith!



Would Jesus who inspired the writer of I Corinthians 11:14-16 to write that it is a **DISGRACE FOR A MAN TO HAVE LONG HAIR** if Jesus Himself had long hair on Hiis head and beard??

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Posted : 17 May, 2020 09:08 PM

Uh... thanks.





Barbers are expensive...





Moving on.

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