1“Do not judge, or you will be judged. 2For with the same judgment you pronounce, you will be judged; and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you.
3Why do you look at the speck in your brother’s eye, but fail to notice the beam in your own eye? 4How can you say to your brother, ‘Let me take the speck out of your eye,’ while there is still a beam in your own eye? 5You hypocrite! First take the beam out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother’s eye.
6Do not give dogs what is holy; do not throw your pearls before swine. If you do, they may trample them under their feet, and then turn and tear you to pieces.
Ask, Seek, Knock
(Luke 11:5-13)
7Ask, and it will be given to you; seek, and you will find; knock, and the door will be opened to you. 8For everyone who asks receives; he who seeks finds; and to him who knocks, the door will be opened.
9Which of you, if his son asks for bread, will give him a stone? 10Or if he asks for a fish, will give him a snake? 11So if you who are evil know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more will your Father in heaven give good things to those who ask Him!
12In everything, then, do to others as you would have them do to you. For this is the essence of the Law and the Prophets.
The Narrow Gate
(Luke 13:22-30)
13Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the way that leads to destruction, and many enter through it. 14But small is the gate and narrow the way that leads to life, and only a few find it.
A Tree and Its Fruit
(Luke 6:43-45)
15Beware of false prophets. They come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravenous wolves. 16By their fruit you will recognize them. Are grapes gathered from thornbushes, or figs from thistles? 17Likewise, every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit. 18A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, and a bad tree cannot bear good fruit. 19Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. 20So then, by their fruit you will recognize them.
21Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only he who does the will of My Father in heaven. 22Many will say to Me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in Your name, and in Your name drive out demons and perform many miracles?’
23Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you workers of lawlessness!’
The House on the Rock
(Luke 6:46-49)
24Therefore everyone who hears these words of Mine and acts on them is like a wise man who built his house on the rock. 25The rain fell, the torrents raged, and the winds blew and beat against that house; yet it did not fall, because its foundation was on the rock.
26But everyone who hears these words of Mine and does not act on them is like a foolish man who built his house on sand. 27The rain fell, the torrents raged, and the winds blew and beat against that house, and it fell—and great was its collapse!”
The Authority of Jesus
28When Jesus had finished saying these things, the crowds were astonished at His teaching, 29because He taught as one who had authority, and not as their scribes.
Note: the “judge not” verse is one of the most often quoted by those who shun correction—so they just eject the verse like a knee jerk response to any threat of accountability.
But Jesus further says in John 7:24 “Stop judging by mere appearances, but instead judge correctly."
So correct judgments are often necessary as opposed to haphazard, premature or off the cuff type judgments that are wrong. Condemning judgments like the Pharisees often engaged in against Jesus were also condemned by Jesus
Please not the severe warning regarding the “narrow gate” leading to life that “few will find”. AND note the warning against false teachers who lead others astray by their false teachings
Bad fruit can be like lies told about Jesus. A specific lie some people teach is that Jesus was a “lawbreaker” and that he “broke many laws” but Jesus says he DID NOT come to break laws but to fulfill them!! BIG DIFFERENCE!!
It's not that we can't just, but we are to judge righteously. Furthermore, you need to be in a position to judge. I'm going to be a bit lazy here, and not post the scriptures directly, but here are some of the points from the Bible. I can share the references later if anybody would like them.
- We are told we are equipped to judge the matters of life, just as we will be equipped to judge angels.
- When the Pharisees bought the woman before Christ for adultery, they could not righteously judge her. None could "throw the first stone." That goes back to judging and being judged by the same measure.
- We also seen this with Nathan and David over the lamb the rich man took from his servant who had only one lamb. David actually, without realizing it at first, pronounced his own judgment.
So yes, we can be judged but we must be equipped to do so and righteously, while not being guilty of that same matter. If not, we would need to judge ourselves first and settle that.
- That goes back to where it says remove the plank out of your own eye first.
When we don't have a plank or a mote in our own eye, we can see our brother more clearly, and we can just righteously. If we are judging while blind or partially blind to that matter, then we are ill equipped to do so.
QUOTE TOTH It's not that we can't just, but we are to judge righteously. Furthermore, you need to be in a position to judge. I'm going to be a bit lazy here, and not post the scriptures directly, but here are some of the points from the Bible. I can share the references later if anybody would like them.END QUOTE
MY RESPONSE: your phrase “...you need to be in a position to judge.” Is hazy and not developed. Have no idea what you’re saying.
TOTH QUOTE- We are told we are equipped to judge the matters of life, just as we will be equipped to judge angels.
- When the Pharisees bought the woman before Christ for adultery, they could not righteously judge her. None could "throw the first stone." That goes back to judging and being judged by the same measure.END QUOTE
MY RESPONSE: several problems exist concerning the woman who was supposedly “caught in the act of adultery”. First, the story isn’t contained in earlier manuscripts. Second, adultery, most the time, takes 2 people—so where’s the man?? Obviously we have a setup to a sham trial. The false teachers fallaciously tried appealing to the law of Moses while overlooking its requirements in such cases. For one thing, BOTH parties were to be held accountable, not just the woman. Jesus would have been right to dismiss the case. The Pharisees were not wrong to judge her AND the man IF they had properly observed the correct procedure
QUOTE TOTH- We also seen this with Nathan and David over the lamb the rich man took from his servant who had only one lamb. David actually, without realizing it at first, pronounced his own judgment.END QUOTE TOTH
MY RESPONSE: Quite false. David was in the position of judge and had a right to judge the man who stole and killed the poor mans lamb. Nathan uses the parable to brilliantly expose David’s sin.
TOTH QUOE So yes, we can be judged but we must be equipped to do so and righteously, while not being guilty of that same matter. If not, we would need to judge ourselves first and settle that END QUOTE
MY RESPONSE have no idea why you brought this up, nothing in my thread would dispute this
TOTH QUOTE- That goes back to where it says remove the plank out of your own eye first. END QUOTE
MY RESPONSE: was there something on my thread that is contrary to this??
TOTH QUOTEWhen we don't have a plank or a mote in our own eye, we can see our brother more clearly, and we can just righteously. If we are judging while blind or partially blind to that matter, then we are ill equipped to do so.END QUOTE
MY RESPONSE there’s nothing in my thread that disputes any or this. Seems you want to tell me something but just can’t for some reason
TOTH, I think I might have asked you before, if you answered and I missed it, I apologize.
Do you believe Jesus and his disciples broke many laws?? You haven’t challenge false prophet 7744 or his many false prophecies and despite his many false teachings the run counter to scripture, you’ve said he’s a “nice guy”.
Do you also believe the Holy Spirit is not God??
You’ve also criticized ICR but didn’t provide reasons for your criticisms, I can quote you if you wish
Respectfully, I did not say you were disputing, I said only that nothing in my thread disputed some of what you were saying, that’s why I’m curious why you would introduce new subject material without an introduction or explanation.
I want to be careful how I frame this. I’m not trying to be negatively argumentative at this point. But I meet people and friends all the time, like you, who aver as follows: “I felt God speaking to me”.
My question is, how do you “feel God speaking” to you?
I have good reason to bring this up. Many times when people and even friends assert this it’s often about something contrary to the clear teaching of God’s word.
I have a close friend who says that almost every time I see him, “God told me thus and so...”, he says.
When I ask how he knows it was God, all he did was pause for a minute, then looked up and said “sometimes it turns out to be Satan”.
That really didn’t help answer my question either because now I wonder how he knows when it was Satan.
There’s another guy on this forum claiming the Holy Spirit reveals things to him as well but it soon became clear from his post that the “Holy Spirit” who talks to him knows less about grammar than a middle school child!! Obviously he isn’t hearing from the real Holy Spirit!
To conclude, I just wonder why people can’t or just plain won’t justify their beliefs about God strictly based on God’s Revelation, the Scripture??
On that note, I guess I’ll just have to settle for an “undeclared” answer to the questions on doctrine l asked you.
TOTH, all I’m saying is this. You must be accountable for what you say and in some cases, what you don’t say. If you can’t defend what you say—is that the kind of image of yourself and the understanding of your faith you want to present?
When I posted my initial comment, I was getting ready to take the woofers for a walk around the neighborhood, so I just quickly shared what I believed God to be leading me to share.
I think judging others is something we should take very seriously and first examine ourselves carefully to make sure we are ready for the task.
As far as David, I believe Nathan was there to help clear the plank out of his eyes. Obviously he was greatly enmeshed in his scheme considering he tried to get Uriah the Hittite to have relationships with Bathsheba before eventually sending him to the front line. Nathan sharing about the man with a single ewe taken by the rich man brought David back to reality. :)
With the women caught in adultery, there's no doubt that Jesus was the actual target. I'm not looking at the scripture right now, but I'm pretty sure the Bible states that this was their intent. Of course they trapped themselves. If one of them could've decided to cast a store, it's very likely that the others would've judged that man by his actions, and seen it as an action making them look inferior. It's hard telling what came of the man she committed adultery with. They either dealt with him already or didn't care. Using the woman would've created a greater spectacle with how they viewed women, and if Jesus would've directly sided with her, they would've had a "gotcha" with the other people with just that alone.
John 16:12-14: Jesus says, "I have much more to say to you, more than you can now bear. But when he, the spirit of Truth comes, he will guide you into all the Truth. He will not speak on his own; he will speak only what he hears, and he will tell you what is yet to come. He will glorify Me because it is from Me that he will receive what he will make known to you!"
And holy spirit inspired the 8 writers of the 27 books of the New Testament to write everything Jesus told him to write!!
Hebrews 12:1,2: Let us run the race marked out for us, **FIXING OUR **EYES ON JESUS**, the **AUTHOR** and **PERFECTER** of our faith!
THE GREAT COMMISSION: Matthew 28:18-20: Jesus says, “All authority in heaven and on ***EARTH*** has been given to Me {Not some RC Pope}. Therefore go and make disciples of *ALL NATIONS*...teaching them to **OBEY EVERYTHING** {The entire NT} I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always, to the very *END OF THE AGE*!”
2 Timothy 3:16,17; 4:1-3: **ALL SCRIPTURE IS GOD-BREATHED** and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, so that the man of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work. In the presence of God and of Christ Jesus, who will judge the living and the dead, and in view of His appearing and His kingdom, I give you this charge: **PREACH THE WORD**!! {**WHICH IS THE ENTIRE NEW COVENANT AND NEW TESTAMENT**!!} Be prepared in season and out of season: **CORRECT**, **REBUKE** and encourage--with great patience and careful instruction. For the time will come when people {Like LittlestDavid & TeddyHugger} will not put up with sound doctrine!!
I Peter 1:23-25: You have been **BORN AGAIN THROUGH THE LIVING AND ENDURING **WORD OF GOD**!! All men are like grass, and all their glory is like the flowers of the field, the grass withers and the flowers fall, but the **WORD OF THE LORD STANDS FOREVER**. And this is the **WORD** that was preached to you
I Corinthians 11:14,16: Does not the very nature if things teach you that if a **MAN HAS LONG HAIR**, it is a **DISGRACE** to him... If anyone wants to contentious about this {Likr LittlestDavid} we have no other practice--nor do the **CHURCHES OF GOD**!
LittlestDavid proudly displays his **SINFUL LONG HAIR ** on his head in his profile picture, He also has another picture which he proudly displays when he had **SINFUL**LONG HAIR** ON HIS BEARD**
In the Old Testament men had long hair on their heads and their beards as per Leviticus 19:27. Beards are mentioned 17 times in the Old Testament while in the New Covenant beards are not even mentioned once!!
However, in the New Covenant it is **SHAMEFUL FOR A MAN TO HAVE LONG HAIR** which would apply to long hair on your head or on your beard and this was the practice in **ALL OF THE CHURCHES OF GOD**!!
The following Words of God can not be found in LittlestDavid's and TeddyHugger's** Bibles!!!
WE* ARE NO LONGER UNDER THE SUPERVISION OF THE LAW!!
Hebrews 7:18,19: The former regulation is **SET ASIDE** because it was **WEAK AND USELESS** for the law made nothing perfect, and a **BETTER HOPE** is introduced by which we draw near to God!
Galatians 2:14-16,20,21; Paul said, When I saw that they were not acting in line with the truth of the gospel, I said to Peter in front of them all, "You are a Jew, yet you live like a Gentile and not like a Jew. How is it, then that you force Gentiles to follow Jewish customs? We who are Jews by birth and not 'Gentile sinners' know that a man is NOT justified by observing the law, but by faith in Jesus Christ. So we, too, have put our faith in Christ Jesus that we may be justified by faith in Christ and not by observing the law, because by observing the law no one will be justified.!"
Galatians 2:20,21: The life I live in the body, I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave Himself for me. I do not set aside the grace of God, for if righteousness could be gained through the law, Christ died for nothing!"
Galatians 3:10-13: "All who rely on observing the law are under a curse, for it is written "Cursed is everyone who does not continue to do everything written in the Book of the Law." Clearly no one is justified before God by the law, because, "The righteous will live by faith." The law is not based on faith; on the contrary, "The man who does these things will live by them." Christ redeemed us from the curse of the law by becoming a curse for us!
Galatians 3:23-25: "Before faith came, we were held prisoners by the law, locked up until faith should be revealed. So the law was put in charge to lead us to Christ that we might be justified by faith. Now that faith has come, *WE* ARE NO LONGER UNDER THE SUPERVISION OF THE LAW!!"
Hebrews 7:18,19: The former regulation is SET ASIDE because it was weak and useless; for the law made nothing perfect, and a better hope is introduced, by which we draw near to God.!
Hebrews 8:8,9,13: "The time is coming." says the Lord, "when I will make a New Covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah".... By calling this Covenant "NEW", He has made the first one OBSOLETE; and what is OBSOLETE and aging will soon disappear."
Hebrews 8:6: But the ministry Jesus has received is as superior to theirs as the covenant of which He is Mediator is SUPERIOR TO THE OLD ONE, and it is founded on better promises.
Colossians 2:16,17: Therefore do not let anyone judge you by what you **EAT** or drink, or with regard to a religious festival, a New Moon celebration or a Sabbath day. These are a *SHADOW* of the things that were to come, the reality, however, is found in Christ!!!
