Cupcake is just stating the facts that you said in your own words the Bible is not from YHWH but written by men! Do you really think we all forgot that "student Quiznos"??? So we only go by what you say and is that judging when we quote you?
Yeah I hear ya buddy about your simple confusion to be solved about his character qualities of YHWH but for me I have MUCH BIGGER questions to be answered like where is this "trinity" of Creators or even these "3 persons" of Creators found "in any of the translations, even the Hebrew or even the Greek manuscripts" that all the THREESOME got together and decided if they would take
turns CREATING things??? Lol! Its a tough question, maybe you can answer? Surely its not as confusing as the show my three sons, is it?
This may be a little off topic but I keep thinking about my "characteristic parts" of me! I mean I know I have this aching body, yet I have the words that I can speak from me and can even write them down, send them off by letter or email! Then I have this spirit of joy, laughter and even anger etc sometimes in me! So do you think I could be a "trinity" human being??? You know like body, words and spirit??? HEY WAIT, I could call myself a TRIUNE Teddyhug! COOL! Thanks for getting me to think "student Quiznos" in your way of thinking. your my hero!
It is true that some will call Jesus the everlasting Father as per Isaiah 9:7 since Jesus said "I and My Father are one" and "He who has seen me has seen the Father". This is because all the beliefs of Jesus and the Father are identical and that they are both God.
However, there are dozens of Scripture which show that Jesus and His Father are 2 separate beings which Teddy Hugger does not believe and never quotes, **SUCH AS**:
John 1:18:.... No one has seen God, but the One and only Son, who is **HIMSELF GOD** and is in closest relationship with the Father, has made Him known!
And there will be Two eternal thrones in the eternal New Jerusalem:
Revelation 21:22-23; 22:3: I did not see a temple in the City, because the Lord God Almighty and the **LAMB**are its temple, The City does not need the sun or the moon to shine on it for the glory of God gives its light and the **LAMB** is its Lamp!...The throne of God and of the **LAMB** will be in the city!
Revelation 3:21: Jesus says, "To him who overcomes. I will the right to sit with Me on My throne, just as I overcame and sat down with my Father on His throne!"
John 6:36-40,44: Jesus says, All those the Father gives Me will come to Me, and whoever comes to Me I will never drive away. For I have come down from heaven not to do My own will but to do the will of Him who sent Me. And this is the will of Him who sent Me, that I shall lose none of those He has given me, but raise them up on the last day, for My Father's will is that every one who looks to the Son and believe in Him shall have eternal life, and I will raise them up on the Last Day,, No one can come to Me unless the Father who sent Me draws him, and I will raise them up on the Last Day!"
Deuteronomy 18:17-19: The Lord said to Moses, I will raise up a Prophet like you from among their fellow Israelites, and I will put My words in His mouth. He will tell them everything I command Him. I Myself will call to account anyone who does not listen to My words that the Prophet speaks in My Name!"
John 14:23,24,28,31: Jesus says, If anyone loves Me, he will obey My teaching. my Father will love him and **WE** will come to him a make **OUR** home with him... These words you hear are not My own, they belong to the Father **WHO SENT ME!...You heard Me say, I am going away and am coming back to you . I f you loved Me, you would be glad that **I AM GOING TO THE FATHER**, for the Father is greater than I... I love the Father and do exactly what My Father has commanded Me!"
I Corinthians 15:23,24: For as in Adam all die, so in Christ all will be made alive But each in turn. Christ, the Firstfruits; then, when He comes, those who belong to Him. Then the end will come, when He turns over the Kingdom to **GOD THE FATHER**!
Hebrews 1:1-4,8,9: In the past God spoke to our ancestors through the prophets at many times and in various ways, but in these last days He has spoken to us by his Son, whom He appointed heir of all things and through whom he made the universe. The Son is the radiance of God's glory and the exact representation of His being, sustaining all things by His powerful word After he provided purification for sins, He sat down at the right hand of the Majesty in heaven. So He became as much superior to the angels as the name he has inherited is superior to theirs... About the Son God says, "Your throne, O God will last for ever and ever, a scepter of justice will be the scepter of your Kingdom; You have loved righteousness and hated wickedness, therefore God, your God has set you above your companions by anointing you with the oil of Joy!!"
Apparently Teddy Hugger who also believes in the **FLAT EARTH FAIRY TALE** does not believe that any of the above Divine Scriptures was inspired by God!!
Prophetic, you claim Teddy believes in the flat earth fairy tale. Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Quiznos make a topic on this thread about flat earthers and spherical earthers. Why do both of them insist on using this as some kind of insult or way to shame people? This only further solidifies my point that prophetic and Quiznos/Chuckk/Khutzpah (whatever) are all the same person. Of course they will most likely deny it and ask me to give proof. You want proof? Go search and read through all of Quiznos, Chuckk's, Khutzpah's and prophetic's topics on this thread. You'll see what I mean.
MorganTackett29: You must also believe in the **FLAT EARTH FAIRY TALE** also since you believe everyone that teaches against it is evil!!
Quiznos and Satan both teach that Jesus is not God and that we are not saved by the blood of our Great God and Savior Jesus Christ. They also teach that the New Testament is not inspired by God.
**BUT WHAT DOES GOD'S WORD SAY**??
**IS JESUS OUR GREAT GOD AND SAVIOR**??
John 1:1-4,18: In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the **WORD WAS GOD*. He was with God in the beginning. Through Him all things were made, without Him nothing was made that has been made. In Him was **LIFE** and that **LIFE**was the **LIGHT OF ALL MANKIND**...No one has ever seen God, but the One and only Son, who is **HIMSELF GOD** and is in closest relationship with the Father.
John 20:27-29: Then He said to Thomas, "Reach out your hand and put it into my side. Stop doubting and believe!" Thomas said to him, "My Lord and **MY GOD**!" Then Jesus told him, "Because you have seen Me, you have believed; blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed!"
Isaiah 9:6: For unto us a Child is born, to us a Son is given, and the government will be on His shoulders. And He will be called Wonderful Counselor and **MIGHTY GOD**!
Isaiah 7:14: The Lord Himself will give you a sign. The virgin will conceive and give birth to a Son, and will call Him **IMMANUEL**! {Which means **GOD WITH US**!}
Matthew 1:20-23: The angel of the Lord said to Joseph, "Take Mary home as your wife because what is conceived in her is from the Holy Spirit. She is to give birth to a Son, and you are to give Him the name Jesus which means **GOD IS HELP**, because He will save His people from their sins. All this took place to fulfill what the Lord had said through the prophet {Isaiah 7:14 above} "The virgin will conceive and give birth to a Son, and they will call Him **IMMANUEL** which means **GOD WITH US**!
John 14:6,7: Jesus says, "I am the **WAY** the **TRUTH** and the **LIFE**. No one comes to the Father except through Me. If you really knew Me, you will know the Father as well. From now on, you do know Him and have **SEEN HIM**!"
**GOD'S WORD COMMANDS THAT WE SHOULD ONLY WORSHIP GOD**!!
Matthew 4:9,10: Satan said to Jesus, "All this I will give you if you bow down and worship me." Jesus said to him, Away from Me Satan! For it is written, '**WORSHIP THE LORD YOUR GOD** and serve Him only!
Revelation 19:9,10: The angel said to me, "Write this: **BLESSED** are those who are invited to the wedding supper of the **LAMB**!" And he added, "These are the true words of God!" At this I fell at his feet to **WORSHIP** him, But he said to me, "Don't do that! I am a fellow servant with you and with your brothers and sisters who hold to the testimony of Jesus! **WORSHIP GOD**! For it is the spirit of prophecy who bears testimony to Jesus!"
Revelation 22:8,9: I fell down to worship at the feet of the angel who had been showing them to me. But he said to me, "**DON'T DO THAT** A am a fellow servant with you and with your fellow prophets and with all who **KEEP THE WORDS** of this scroll. **WORSHIP GOD**!!
Hebrews 1:6,8: When God brings His firstborn into the world He says, "Let all God's angels **WORSHIP HIM**.... About the Son He says, "Your throne, **O GOD**, will last for ever and ever, a scepter of justice will be the scepter of **YOUR KINGDOM**!"
Matthew 28:18-20: Jesus says, "**ALL AUTHORITY**in heaven and on earth has been given to **ME**. Therefore go and make disciples of all nations... and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always!"
**JESUS CHRIST, OUR GREAT GOD AND SAVIOR**
Jesus is **WORSHIPED** many times in God's Word in Matthew 2:2,8,11; 14:33; 28:9,17 Luke 24:52 John 9:38 and Revelation 5:11-14 and !5:4!!
Matthew 2:10,11: When the Wise Men saw the star, they were overjoyed. On coming to the house, they saw the Child with His mother Mary, and they bowed down and **WORSHIPED HIM**!
Matthew 14:33; Then those who were in the boat **WORSHPED HIM**!!
Matthew 28:8,9: So the women hurried away from the tomb, afraid yet filled with joy, and ran to tell His disciples. Suddenly Jesus met them. "Greetings," He said. They came to Him, clasped His feet and **WORSHIPED HIM**!
Matthew 28:16,17: Then the eleven disciples went to Galilee, to the mountain where Jesus had told them to go. When the saw Him, they **WORSHIPED HIM**!
There are some who completely ignore these Scriptures and claim that Jesus is not God because he said that the Father is greater than me in John 14:28 and that the Father told Him what to say as per John 14:23,24: Jesus says, "Anyone who loves Me will obey My teaching. My Father will love them, and We will come to them and make our home with them. Anyone who does not love Me will not obey My teaching. The words you hear are not My own; they belong to the Father who sent Me."
John 9:37,38: Jesus said, "You have now seen Him; in fact, He is the one speaking with you!" Then the man said, "Lord, I believe," and he **WORSHIPED HIM**!
NOTE: Jesus is called the **LAMB** 30 times in the book of Revelation!
Revelation 5:13,14: Then I heard every creature in heaven and on earth and under the earth and on the sea, an all that is In them, saying "To Him who sits on the throne and to the **LAMB** be praise and honor and glory and power for ever and ever!" The 4 living creatures said, "Amen," and the elders fell down and **WORSHIPED**!
Revelation 17:14; They will wage war against the **LAMB**, but the **LAMB** will overcome them because He is **LORD** of lords and King of kings--and with Him will be **HIS** **CALLED**, *CHOSEN** and **FAITHFUL** followers!!
Titus 2:13,14: We wait for the **BLESSED HOPE**--the glorious appearing of our **GREAT GOD AND SAVIOR**, Jesus Christ, who gave Himself for us to redeem us from all wickedness and to purify a people that are **HIS VERY OWN**, eager to do what is good!!