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THE BIBLE WARNS AGAINST “SCIENCE” SO-CALLED
Posted : 16 Jan, 2020 05:42 PM

1 Timothy 6:19-21

20 O Timothy, keep that which is committed to thy trust, avoiding profane and vain babblings, and oppositions of **science falsely so called**:



21 Which some professing have erred concerning the faith. Grace be with thee. Amen.

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Posted : 16 Jan, 2020 05:44 PM

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“The fear of the Lord is the beginning of knowledge” (Proverbs 1:7). There’s one place we must start our quest for knowledge—God’s Word. Otherwise, we can easily be seduced by false ideas masquerading as truth.





When we understand and embrace God’s Word, we will know the difference between the truth and the lies, and we won’t be deceived.



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The Apostle Paul had very high respect for his disciple Timothy and described him with affirming words to the church at Philippi.



Timothy, however, like all of us, was in constant danger of being drawn into, or at least deeply influenced by, some false ideas masquerading as truth. So Paul ended his first letter to Timothy with these words of warning: “O Timothy, keep that which is committed to thy trust [see 6:14], avoiding profane and vain babblings, and the oppositions of science falsely so called: which some professing have erred concerning the faith” (1 Timothy 6:20–21, KJV).



Now what did Paul mean by “science”? The Greek word gnosis means “knowledge” in a general sense, not in the technical sense we use the word “science” today. Greek expert W. E. Vine explains that “science in the modern sense of the word, viz, the investigation, discovery and classification of secondary laws, is unknown in Scripture.”1



But this verse’s application to historical sciences, such as the study of the origin of the universe (cosmogony) and the study of fossils (paleontology), is clear. Most contemporary scientists who discuss these foundational issues are immersed in “science [knowledge] falsely so called” because they exclude divine revelation about Creation, the Curse, and the Flood. They extrapolate presently observed processes into the distant past.



Refusing to believe that the Bible helps explain the stars and fossils we see today, they hold to uniformitarianism (the belief that present slow processes are sufficient to explain what happened in the past). By rejecting the one-time, unique events of Creation and the Flood, “they are willingly ignorant” of how the universe, the earth, plants, animals, and people came into existence, and how this world has been judged by our holy Creator (see 2 Peter 3:1–7).



The ultimate question we must answer is the same one Pontius Pilate asked Jesus: “What is truth?” (John 18:38). In reality, Pilate was not at all interested in Christ’s claim or His definition of truth.



Pilate’s attitude toward the truth continues to prevail. Paul’s warning about “science” 2,000 years ago is just as true today as it was then, and it applies to all misuses of truth. The modern belief in evolution is just the most flagrant example of mankind’s willful suppression of the truth (Romans 1:18). It is illogical for an atheist to deny that God created the world. If everything came from nothing by a mysterious combination of time and chance, then where did thinking and information come from? How can we exchange ideas and expect others to understand us and take us seriously?



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Yet Richard Dawkins, one of the most well-known advocates of evolution and an eminent scientist at Oxford University, pontificates that Bible believers are the ones who are ignorant of the truth: “It is absolutely safe to say that if you meet somebody who claims not to believe in evolution, that person is ignorant, stupid or insane (or wicked, but I’d rather not consider that).”2



The inherent contradictions in Dawkins’s claim were apparent to John C. Lennox, Professor of Mathematics at the University of Oxford. He responded to Dawkins’s argument, and his words are worth rereading:



“I confess to finding it curious that those who claim that there is no such thing as truth expect me to believe that what they are saying is true! Perhaps I misunderstand them, but they seem to exempt themselves from their general rubric that there is no such thing as truth when they are either speaking to me or writing their books. They turn out to believe in truth after all. In any case, scientists have a clear stake in truth. Why, otherwise, would they bother to do science?”3

Knowledge that is based on ultimate truth, then, can only be provided by God the Creator, who knows everything and is the source of truth. Christ, the God-Man, said, “I am . . . the truth” (John 14:6). Note that He not only speaks truth; He is the truth! Thus, any claim to knowledge that contradicts what Christ said and what God’s Word says is false. Each one of us must therefore strive to be “a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth” (2 Timothy 2:15, KJV).



Molecules-to-man evolution is “science [knowledge] falsely so called” because it contradicts biblical revelation about origins. As Romans 1:18–20 tells us: “The invisible things of [God] from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, . . . so that they are without excuse” (KJV).



The Apostle Paul offers some timeless advice to Christians living in a world saturated with false ideas that contradict the Bible: Let us be no longer “children tossed to and fro and carried about with every wind of doctrine [such as evolutionism], by the sleight of men,” but rededicate our hearts and minds to speak “the truth in love” (Ephesians 4:14–15, KJV).



Study & Discussion Questions ...

Does the Bible really talk about “science”?

Read 1 Timothy 6:20–21. Why did Paul have to warn Timothy about “science falsely so called”?

What is uniformitarianism?

How does God refute uniformitarianism?

How can anyone know what ultimate truth really is?

What does atheism do to the concept of truth?

How can we really know how the world began?

How do we connect the Lord Jesus with ultimate truth?

Read Romans 1:18–20. Why does God say that we are “without excuse” for denying creation?

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Posted : 16 Jan, 2020 05:58 PM

Some people, even on this forum, ignorantly believe that the false theory of the evolution of the universe and all living things is a proven scientific fact.



Chuckk thinks is science.



The Pinocchio prophetic with 7744 Pinocchio awards says he doesn’t believe in evolution but unbeknownst to poor-o-Pinocchio, some clever evolutionists have tricked prophetic 7744, the Pinocchio prophetic into believing some of the doctrines of evolution. For example, Pinocchio, the false prophetic 7744 times over, thinks the world is thousands upon thousands if not millions of years old according to the doctrines of evolution.



The Pinocchio prophetic 7744 also believes evolution theory when it says there were “men-like creatures” roaming the earth before Adam!! But Pinocchio doesn’t realize he believes in evolution.,

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Posted : 16 Jan, 2020 06:23 PM

Preach it little David! Very good thread!

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Posted : 16 Jan, 2020 07:08 PM

Sigh 😔,

Seriously❓

Is this a thread about how to make the Bible sit up and beg? (make the Bible say whatever you want).

Step 1 - Completely ignore the context of Paul's letter to Timothy (instructions how to live a Christian life).

Step 2 - Change the word "knowledge" to "science" (even though in context,"knowledge" here is knowledge of false vs true Christian behavior).

Step 3 - Change the previously changed word "false science" to evolution then create a homiletic on now, after the above changes, is a completely falsified verse.

There it is ladies and gentlemen, how to make the Bible sit up and beg!

This is why many Christians are an embarrassment to Christianity, because like in this case, this post does exactly what the letter of 1st Timothy instructs NOT to do!

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Posted : 16 Jan, 2020 07:10 PM

Sigh 😔,

Seriously❓

Is this a thread about how to make the Bible sit up and beg? (make the Bible say whatever you want).

Step 1 - Completely ignore the context of Paul's letter to Timothy (instructions how to live a Christian life).

Step 2 - Change the word "knowledge" to "science" (even though in context,"knowledge" here is knowledge of false vs true Christian behavior).

Step 3 - Change the previously changed word "false science" to evolution then create a homiletic on now, after the above changes, is a completely falsified verse.

There it is ladies and gentlemen, how to make the Bible sit up and beg!

This is why many Christians are an embarrassment to Christianity, because like in this case, this post does exactly what the letter of 1st Timothy instructs NOT to do!

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Posted : 16 Jan, 2020 07:32 PM

Littlest David quote which is a Satanic lie and he knows it is a Satanic **LIE**:



"Some clever evolutionists have tricked prophetic 7744, the Pinocchio prophetic into believing some of the doctrines of evolution. For example, Pinocchio, the false prophetic 7744 times over, thinks the world is thousands upon thousands if not millions of years old according to the doctrines of evolution."



Jewish Bible Chronology shows that the 6-day creation was about 5,779 years ago and the Christian Bible Chronology in the Bible shows that the 6-day creation was about 5,879 years ago.



Genesis 1:1-2 tells us what the present earth was like right before God's 6-day Creation:



Genesis 1:1-2: In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. Now the earth was formless and empty, darkness was over the face of the deep and the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters!!



Littlest David has stated that he believes Carbon dating is accurate for up to 10 years!! And Carbon dating shows that the last dinosaur died about 10,000 years ago and the last Neanderthal creature; who was not very smart and lived in caves; died about 20,000 years ago.



And so over 70 percent of the scientists from Evangelical churches believe that the earth is over 20.000 years old and the Grand Canyon's multiple amazing strata also shows the earth is over 20,000 years old; and that there was **NO EVOLUTION**.



And so littlest David's view is in the **MINORITY**; among Evangelicals; who believes the earth is less than 6,000 years old which is confusing since Littlest David also believes that Carbon 14 Dating is accurate for up to 10,000 years???

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Posted : 16 Jan, 2020 08:52 PM

I wonder if this can be verified??? I was thinking more along the lines of Jesus's time with the Greeks and their philosophy.

In the days of Moses it was taught that the earth was carried around on a great big strong man’s back and when he sneezed this created an earthquake.

Later as time went on it was taught the earth was carried around on the back of a turtle.

People also believed that the earth was flat and you could fall off the edge of the earth.

Job 26:7 — "He stretcheth out the north over the empty place, and hangeth the earth upon nothing."

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Posted : 16 Jan, 2020 08:56 PM

More from the article quoted above:

Science finally caught up in the 1500’s, Magellan sailed around the world. I remember a song I sang as a child in school, “Columbus sailed the ocean blue in 1492”. Prior to Magellan and Columbus folks believed that you could fall off the edge of the earth. If they would have read their Bibles they would have realized that the earth was flat and was held up by nothing. (We must remember one thing, just as there is a group today that is attempting to keep you from God’s word, there was a group then that did not want the common people to have the word of God.)



It took science a few thousand years to catch up to the Bible. Yet folks will state the Bible is not a science book.

The sun rays are made up of three parts.



Romans 1:20 — "For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse."



Light: Picture of the Son. You can see the light and the Son has been seen.

Heat: Picture of the Holy Spirit. You can feel the heat, just as you can feel the Holy Spirit work in your life.

Ultraviolet: Picture of the Father. You can neither see nor feel the ultraviolet rays. Just as the Father you can neither see nor feel. But as you have seen the Son you have seen the Father. This is the same in light.



BIBLE AHEAD OF NASA!

Genesis 2:7 — "And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul."



In 1982 NASA scientist “discovered” that all the ingredients needed to form a human being can be found in clay. It took science over three thousand years to catch up. It does not take a rocket scientist to discover what God told us over three thousand years ago. In fact, the education of many will get in their way. I heard this story once and... “Once I was a tadpole when I began to begin, next I was a frog with my tail tucked in. Then I was a monkey in a banyan tree, and now I am a doctor with a Ph.D. Tadpole, frog, and monkey man, all glory to nothing for the planless plan.” Who would get the glory if there was no plan?

https://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Basics/science_is_always_behind_the%20Bible.htm

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Posted : 16 Jan, 2020 09:39 PM

Chuck,



"Science" means "knowledge." They are one and the same. That is why humans are said to have a conscience. Con (with) Science (knowledge).

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Posted : 16 Jan, 2020 09:45 PM

@Mrs KJV,

Here is the REAL problem with this OP:

I respect David's freedom to see what he sees in 1Tim 6. Even if he thinks Paul is warning Timothy about "evolution" - whatever -. The problem is he changes the verse, then uses his private interpretation to set himself up as judge and condemn others.

😳😞

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