Thread: 33,000 Christian denominations? "A HOUSE DIVIDED CANNOT STAND"
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33,000 Christian denominations? "A HOUSE DIVIDED CANNOT STAND"
Posted : 11 Jan, 2020 10:03 AM
Jesus prayed that we all be ONE and that people would know us by our love. Therefore I'll pose the question: If we are not loving each other, but dividing, name calling, hating and condemning each other over Christian doctrines, are we really following Jesus? Or has the devil infiltrated Christianity as a spirit of religiosity and knowledge puffing us up and dividing us?
Let's take a couple denominations that main stream Christianity classifies as "Cults"; Jehovah Witnesses and Mormons. I used to be puffed up with knowledge and could easily and proudly hold my own when debating members of these "Cults" in games of Bible verse karate. However after many years of studying and by the grace of God and the understanding bestowed on me, I came full circle. Who was I to judge and condemn people I didn't know, who apparently love God enough to give up their time and go door to door telling people about God?
Sure, I can and still do discuss their doctrines, but I no longer see them as "Cultists", but rather brothers and sisters loving God differently. I can't judge their hearts. God is their ONLY judge. And what happened?! They love coming to my house and discussing God. I have inadvertently made new friends, because I didn't judge them, but instead loved them.
Jesus said a house divided will not stand. How can we hope to stand if we are divided into 33,000 parts?
I believe true Christians are united in Christ and do not let doctrinal disputes divide them. Salvation is in following Jesus, there is NO OTHER WAY!
33,000 Christian denominations? "A HOUSE DIVIDED CANNOT STAND"
Posted : 11 Jan, 2020 12:54 PM
Denominations aren't the church. When I was a child, I went to a Baptist church. When I was a teenager, I went to a Brethren church. Almost everything the two taught were identical, except the Brethren church practiced threefold communion (includes foot washing). Regardless of the denominations, they are still the same body. That doesn't mean all denominations are okay, but I would go out on a limb and say there are probably problems that occur in any church building or meeting place. We have seven churches mentioned in Revelation that are very different. Church isn't the end all in the believer's life, but it can be the backbone that provides support and allows everybody to contribute their gifts.
33,000 denominations, but there is only one "Church."
33,000 Christian denominations? "A HOUSE DIVIDED CANNOT STAND"
Posted : 11 Jan, 2020 01:18 PM
Chuckles who promised last week that he was leaving this Christian Form has **LIED AGAIN** and has come back to teach us more of his Satanic Garbage. Chuckles now claims that the Satanic Jehovah's Witnesses and Mormons are his brothers in Christ.
**Chuckles teaches the following on this Christian Forum:
**JESUS IS NOT GOD**
**JESUS DID ELIMINATE ANY OT LAWS**
**THE BLOOD OF JESUS DOES NOT MAKE ATONEMENT FOR OUR SINS^^
**THE 14 EPISTLES OF PAUL ARE NOT INSPIRED BY GOD**
**WE ARE STILL UNDER THE SUPERVION OF ALL OT LAWS** **WE ARE ONLY SAVED BY OUR OWN GOOD WORKS AND OBEYING OLD TESTAMENT LAWS**
**WE ARE NOT BORN AGAIN BY THE LIVING WORD OF GOD BY BY JESUS MYSTICALLY SPEAKING TO US**
**ANY NEW TESTAMENT SCRIPTURE WHICH CONTRADICTS THE ABOVE BELIEFS ARE **SPAM** AND ARE NOT INSPIRED BY GOD**
**CHUCKLES CLAIMS HE JUST WANTS ONE OF HIS THREADS TO BE FREE OF ALL CRITICISM BY PROPHETIC**
**AND YET CHUCLES HAS OPENED **15** OF THE LAST 30 THREADS WHICH TEACH HIS SATANIC BELIEFS ON THIS CHRISTIAN FORUM AND WANTS ALL OF THEM TO BE FREE OF CRITICISM BY PROPHETIC**
Ephesians 2:8,9: For it is by **GRACE** you have been saved, through **FAITH**—and this **NOT FROM YOURSELVES**, it is the **GIFT OF GOD**—not by works. So that no one can boast. For we are **GOD'S WORKMANSHIP**, created in Christ Jesus to do **GOOD WORKS**, which God prepared in advance for us to do!
Titus 3:3,4: At one time we too were foolish, disobedient, deceived and enslaved by all kinds of passions and pleasures. We lived in malice and envy, being hated and hating one another. But when the kindness and **LOVE** of God our Savior appeared , He saved us, **NOT BECAUSE OF RIGHTEOUS THINGS WE HAD DONE**, but because of **HIS MERCY**!!
Hebrews 11:1,6: Now faith is confidence in what **WE HOPE FOR** and the assurance about **WHAT WE DO NOT SEE**.. And without **FAITH** {A Free Gift of God} it is impossible to please God, because anyone who comes to Him **MUST BELIEVE** that He exists and that **HE **REWARDS** THOSE WHO EARNESTLY SEEK HIM!
Romans 3:23-25: For all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, and all are justified freely by His grace through the redemption that came by Christ Jesus. God presented Christ as a sacrifice of atonement, through the shedding of His blood--to be received **BY FAITH**!!
2 Timothy 3:15; 4:1-3: All Scripture is **GOD-BREATHED** and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, so that the servant of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work. In the presence of God and of Christ Jesus {The Author of the NT}, who will judge the living and the dead, and in view of His appearing and His Kingdom, I give you this charge: **PREACH THE WORD** {The **ENTIRE NEW TESTAMENT} Be prepared in season and out of season; correct, rebuke and encourage--with great patience and careful instruction. For the time will come when people {Like Chuckles} will not put up with sound doctrine.
Peter 1:23-25: You have been **BORN AGAIN THROUGH THE LIVING AND ENDURING **WORD OF GOD**!! All men are like grass, and all their glory is like the flowers of the field, the grass withers and the flowers fall, but the **WORD OF THE LORD STANDS FOREVER**. And this is the **WORD** that was preached to you!
33,000 Christian denominations? "A HOUSE DIVIDED CANNOT STAND"
Posted : 11 Jan, 2020 01:20 PM
You speak of the "Body of Christ"
Not everyone in a Church denomination is in the Body of Christ.
Not everyone outside a Church denomination is outside the Body of Christ.
Therefore inclusion or exclusion in the Body of Christ is independent of derived Church doctrines.
What are the deciding factors?
1) John 13:35 “By this all people will know that you are my disciples, IF❗️you have love for one another.
2) John 8:31 – 32 “IF❗️you abide in my word, you are truly my disciples, 32 and you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free.”
3) Mark 14:34 – 35 IF❗️anyone would come after me, let him deny himself and take up his cross and follow me. 35 For whoever would save his life will lose it, but whoever loses his life for my sake and the gospel’s will save it.”
4) Luke 14:26-27 IF❗️anyone comes to me and does not hate his own father and mother and wife and children and brothers and sisters, yes, and even his own life, he cannot be my disciple. Whoever does not bear his own cross and come after me cannot be my disciple.”
33,000 Christian denominations? "A HOUSE DIVIDED CANNOT STAND"
Posted : 11 Jan, 2020 01:26 PM
@prophetic,
I know you were pretty excited when you heard I left. No worries, only back today, maybe Sunday, idk.
I know it is difficult for you having to deal with all this truth. Maybe some of it will sink in and you can dispense with name calling and harassing followers of Jesus.
33,000 Christian denominations? "A HOUSE DIVIDED CANNOT STAND"
Posted : 11 Jan, 2020 02:45 PM
There are about 2 billion 400 million Christians in the world. About 1 Billion 200 million Protestants and 1 billion 200 million Roman Catholics. About 500 million Protestants are called Evangelicals. Although there are many denominations within the Evangelicals they have share some important Biblical doctrines such as :
**Jesus is God**
**Only the blood of Jesus makes Atonement for our sins.
**The entire New Testament is inspired by God.
** Salvation and faith are free gifts of God
**We are no longer under supervision of almost all of the OT laws.
**There are many eternal rewards for faithful and loving service and obeying the NT laws of the New Covenant
**WE are all waiting for the Second coming of Jesus and are eternal home in the Hew Heavens and New Earth and the eternal New Jerusalem.
Satan and Chuckles hate and despise all the beliefs of Evangelical Christians,
33,000 Christian denominations? "A HOUSE DIVIDED CANNOT STAND"
Posted : 11 Jan, 2020 03:08 PM
@prophetic
You must live in a bubble ⚗️
Because the truth is so many Christians use the magic eightball 🎱 approach to Scripture that they are all over the map on the things you posted.
Perhaps it is just the "real" Christians who argue, fight, name call, harass, gossip and condemn to hell other Christians. Thanks now that I know the fruits of real Christians, I'll know what to look for❗️🙄
>"Satan and Chuckles hate and despise all the beliefs of Evangelical Christians"<
Satan is the author of many "Christian" doctrines as vehicles to turn brother against brother and ultimately against following the teaching of Jesus.
"10And then many will fall awaya and betray one another and hate one another. 11And many false prophets will arise and lead many astray. 12And because lawlessness will be increased, the love of many will grow cold." - Matthew 24
"2For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers,........., 3Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good, 4Traitors, heady, highminded, ......5Having a form of godliness, .......from such turn away.......7Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth."
33,000 Christian denominations? "A HOUSE DIVIDED CANNOT STAND"
Posted : 11 Jan, 2020 03:56 PM
There are about 2 billion 400 million Christians in the world. About 1 Billion 200 million Protestants and 1 billion 200 million Roman Catholics. About 500 million Protestants are called Evangelicals. Although there are many denominations within the Evangelicals they have share some important Biblical doctrines such as :
**Jesus is God**
**Only the blood of Jesus makes Atonement for our sins. **The entire New Testament is inspired by God. ** **Salvation and faith are free gifts of God
**We are no longer under supervision of almost all of the OT laws.
**There are many eternal rewards for faithful and loving service and obeying the NT laws of the New Covenant
**WE are all waiting for the Second coming of Jesus and are eternal home in the Hew Heavens and New Earth and the eternal New Jerusalem.
Satan and Chuckles hate and despise all the beliefs of Evangelical Christians
33,000 Christian denominations? "A HOUSE DIVIDED CANNOT STAND"
Posted : 11 Jan, 2020 04:11 PM
prophetic,
How many times are you going to call me Satanic and Satans brother? Maybe you could figure that out and put all of them in one post so you don't ruin this Forum for everyone else.
33,000 Christian denominations? "A HOUSE DIVIDED CANNOT STAND"
Posted : 11 Jan, 2020 04:48 PM
Chuckles who promised last week that he was leaving this Christian Form has **LIED AGAIN** and has come back to teach us more of his Satanic Garbage. Chuckles now claims that the Satanic Jehovah's Witnesses and Mormons are his brothers in Christ.
**Chuckles teaches the following on this Christian Forum:
**JESUS IS NOT GOD**
**JESUS DID ELIMINATE ANY OT LAWS*
**THE BLOOD OF JESUS DOES NOT MAKE ATONEMENT FOR OUR SINS^^
**THE 14 EPISTLES OF PAUL ARE NOT INSPIRED BY GOD**
**WE ARE STILL UNDER THE SUPERVION OF ALL OT LAWS**
**WE ARE ONLY SAVED BY OUR OWN GOOD WORKS AND OBEYING OLD TESTAMENT LAWS**
**WE ARE NOT BORN AGAIN BY THE LIVING WORD OF GOD BY BY JESUS MYSTICALLY SPEAKING TO US** **ANY NEW TESTAMENT SCRIPTURE WHICH CONTRADICTS THE ABOVE BELIEFS ARE **SPAM** AND ARE NOT INSPIRED BY GOD**
**CHUCKLES CLAIMS HE JUST WANTS ONE OF HIS THREADS TO BE FREE OF ALL CRITICISM BY PROPHETIC**
**AND YET CHUCLES HAS OPENED **15** OF THE LAST 30 THREADS WHICH TEACH HIS SATANIC BELIEFS ON THIS CHRISTIAN FORUM AND WANTS ALL OF THEM TO BE FREE OF CRITICISM BY PROPHETIC**
Ephesians 2:8,9: For it is by **GRACE** you have been saved, through **FAITH**—and this **NOT FROM YOURSELVES**, it is the **GIFT OF GOD**—not by works. So that no one can boast. For we are **GOD'S RKMANSHIP**, created in Christ Jesus to do **GOOD WORKS**, which God prepared in advance for us to do!
Titus 3:3,4: At one time we too were foolish, disobedient, deceived and enslaved by all kinds of passions and pleasures. We lived in malice and envy, being hated and hating one another. But when the kindness and **LOVE** of God our Savior appeared , He saved us, **NOT BECAUSE OF RIGHTEOUS THINGS WE HAD DONE**, but because of **HIS MERCY**!!
Hebrews 11:1,6: Now faith is confidence in what **WE HOPE FOR** and the assurance about **WHAT WE DO NOT SEE**.. And without **FAITH** {A Free Gift of God} it is impossible to please God, because anyone who comes to Him **MUST BELIEVE** that He exists and that **HE **REWARDS** THOSE WHO EARNESTLY SEEK HIM!
Romans 3:23-25: For all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, and all are justified freely by His grace through the redemption that came by Christ Jesus. God presented Christ as a sacrifice of atonement, through the shedding of His blood--to be received **BY FAITH**!!
2 Timothy 3:15; 4:1-3: All Scripture is **GOD-BREATHED** and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, so that the servant of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work. In the presence of God and of Christ Jesus {The Author of the NT}, who will judge the living and the dead, and in view of His appearing and His Kingdom, I give you this charge: **PREACH THE WORD** {The **ENTIRE NEW TESTAMENT} Be prepared in season and out of season; correct, rebuke and encourage--with great patience and careful instruction. For the time will come when people {Like Chuckles} will not put up with sound doctrine.
Peter 1:23-25: You have been **BORN AGAIN THROUGH THE LIVING AND ENDURING **WORD OF GOD**!! All men are like grass, and all their glory is like the flowers of the field, the grass withers and the flowers fall, but the **WORD OF THE LORD STANDS FOREVER**. And this is the **WORD** that was preached to you!
