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LittleDavid

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Why So Little Unity of Belief Among Believers
Posted : 27 Dec, 2019 10:22 AM

Despite biblical admonition according to 1 Corinthians 1:10

I appeal to you, brothers and sisters, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that all of you agree with one another in what you say and that there be no divisions among you, but that you be perfectly united in mind and thought.

Why then is there such an extreme diversity of belief amongst believers in God? So much diversity results only in opposing and contradictory theologies

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Why So Little Unity of Belief Among Believers
Posted : 27 Dec, 2019 10:35 AM

I’ve often wondered why different people accept different interpretations of the Bible.



Some people claim only their interpretation is the right one no matter what.



Some people claim everybody’s interpretation is right or at least valid and everybody else ought to step back respect that “fact”. And if you dare to disagree you’re called the intolerant devil.



Some people think nobody is right and no one dares disagree with that “fact” either because that’s the “only right way to believe”

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Why So Little Unity of Belief Among Believers
Posted : 27 Dec, 2019 11:04 AM

I’ve watched a few court cases in which the prosecution presents evidence against a defendant. The defense then presents its own set of facts and tries to refute the evidence the prosecution has presented.



But sometimes the power fact and solid indisputable evidence doesn't matter to the defense and in some cases to the persecution.



Some courts have even been known to withhold evidence that would have changed the entire outcome of a verdict.



Sometimes juries are about as logically inept at determining guilt or innocence of the accused just like many God believers are at determining truth from error.



Even more troublesome, sometimes members of the jury are preselected by the court according to their biases. Obviously an unorthodox court stacks the jury in hopes of a favorable outcome. Sorta reminds me of certain pastoral candidate hearings



I think some of the above might help explain just a few of the reasons why stupid decisions are made in courts of law. But I think that these examples are analogous to the theological arena as well.

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Why So Little Unity of Belief Among Believers
Posted : 27 Dec, 2019 11:09 AM

I believe the Bible explains why people claiming to believe in God often arrive at the wrong decision about the doctrine of God and it’s found in several places throughout scripture. One is found Romans 1. Does anyone care to read this chapter and comment ?

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Posted : 27 Dec, 2019 11:14 AM

Little David,



I'll answer your question, but I doubt you'll be able to hear it or bear it (not being rude).



The reason is you stake everything on the doctrine complete Biblical inerrancy This causes you to take Paul's words as equal or superseding the clear teachings of Jesus.



Like the verse you quoted from Paul. (even without factoring in Marcion editing) You take this verse as words from the lips of God, when it is actually Paul's rabbinical (Talmudic) Midrash. If you were Jewish, you would immediately recognize this!



So let's put your verse to the test:

I shouldn't have to prove to you there were different factions of "christianity" after the death and resurrection of Jesus. I.E. eboinites, essenes, the James group, Gentile Churches etc.... Guess what, they were not united in "thought and mind" as Paul said, BUT THEY WERE UNITED IN JESUS CHRIST despite their differing beliefs.



This is where you and others err: Thinking everyone MUST believe the same thing to be united.



Isn't prophetic a perfect example of disunity and division just because he doesn't accept my academic Jewish view of the Bible even though I believe in Y'shua!



And sadly I must add, you have treated me in similar fashion, although to your credit, you haven't taken up lying.



Allow me to be clear; IT IS SYSTEMATIC THEOLOGY THAT DIVIDES! It happened to the Jews. Jesus corrected them and was killed for it. Now it is happening to Christians, and they will gladly kill in the name of God to protect their cherished systemically derived doctrines.



THIS SHOULD NOT BE SO‼️

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Why So Little Unity of Belief Among Believers
Posted : 27 Dec, 2019 11:15 AM

Btw, Little David,

Thank you for the question

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Posted : 27 Dec, 2019 11:43 AM

Thank you for replying chuckk. But all your posts are nearly the same with little variance.



It’s not like you’re repeating the same flawed posts over and over again like the Pinocchio prophetic, you just say everything or nearly everything in the same fashion. For example, it’s as if your appeals are emoted or designed to appeal to the emotion rather than the logical.



However, I must confess that a few of your posts actually refuted some of prophets errors right on the tip of his then 5 foot nose. (Not talking about your anti-Pauline arguments)

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Why So Little Unity of Belief Among Believers
Posted : 27 Dec, 2019 11:46 AM

Prophetic, the Pinocchio prophet, please don’t come on here and tell me I misrepresented the true length of your nose. Alright, maybe it’s 6 feet by now, I don’t know, hard to keep up

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Posted : 27 Dec, 2019 11:54 AM

Chuckles believes Jesus is lord but will never admit Jesus is God which every born from above saint believes!!



Jesus is called **LORD** over 200 times in the New Covenant of Faith and Love. However the name lord does not always mean God since Jesus is called Lord of lords as per Revelation 17:14. However Jesus is also called God **SEVEN TIMES** in the New Testament and Chuckles like Satan teaches that Jesus is not God.



Revelation 17:14: They will make war against the **LAMB** but the Lamb will overcome them because He is **LORD** of lords and **KING** of kings and with Him will be His **CALLED** **CHOSEN** and **FAITHFUL** followers!



Chuckles does not believe Jesus is God and believes the following Scripture is not inspired by God. Chuckles must also believe that the Gospel of John is not inspired by God since Jesus is called God **FOUR** times in the Gospel of John.



Isaiah 9:6: For unto us a Child is born, to us a Son is given, and the government will be on His shoulders. And He will be called Wonderful Counselor and **MIGHTY GOD**!



John 1:1-3,18: In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with Go, and the **WORD WAS GOD**. He was with God in the beginning. Through Him all things were made; without Him nothing was made that as been made...

No one has ever seen God, but the One and only Son, who is **HIMSELF GOD** and is in closest relationship with the Father, has made Him known!



John 20:27-29: Jesus said to the doubting Thomas, "Put your finger here in My hands. Reach out your hand and put it into My side. Stop doubting and believe!" Thomas said to Him, My Lord and **MY GOD**!" Then Jesus told him, Because you have seen Me, you have believed, blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed!" {And so since Chuckles does not believe he is not blessed by Jesus!!}



Hebrews 1:6,8: When God brings His firstborn into the world He says, "Let all God's angels **WORSHIP HIM**.... About the Son He says, "Your throne, **O GOD**, will last for ever and ever, a scepter of justice will be the scepter of **YOUR KINGDOM**!"



Titus 2:13,14: We wait for the **BLESSED HOPE**--the glorious appearing of our **GREAT GOD AND SAVIOR**, Jesus Christ, who gave Himself for us to redeem us from all wickedness and to purify a people that are **HIS VERY OWN**, eager to do what is good!!



So Satan's followers all deceptively only say Jesus is lord but will never admit that Jesus is God like Chuckles.

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Why So Little Unity of Belief Among Believers
Posted : 27 Dec, 2019 12:13 PM

Oh my goodness !!::

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Posted : 27 Dec, 2019 12:20 PM

It is interesting to note that we have had 4 attackers of the Pauline Epistles in the last 6 months:



Hark, ADAM7777, Sadlup and Chuckles!!!!



Chuckles Satanic Quotes:



"Paul's advice should stand or fall on its own, rather than being declared words from the lips of God and therefore "New Commandments."

"Paul's advice is not a New Commandment from God."

"Who made Paul's words into God's word for all churches for all time????" "You have no Scriptural support to back your assertion that Paul can impose (new) Commandments as Moses and Jesus."

"Who gave Paul equal authority with Moses and Jesus to write new commandments?"



Chuckles claims that this post is full of lies even though he knows every word is **TRUE**!!



*Neither Moses or Paul had the authority to make new commandments!!



2 Peter 1:20-21: Above all, you must understand that no prophecy of Scripture came about by the prophet's own interpretation of things. For prophecy never had its origin in the human will, but prophets, though human, spoke from God as they were carried along by the Holy Spirit!



God the Father inspired the 32 writers of the OT to write what He wanted them to write. Just as God the Father gave Jesus all authority in the New and better Covenant of faith and love.



John 16:12-15: Jesus says, "I have much more to say to you, more than you can now bear . But when he, the Spirit of Truth comes he will guide you into all the truth. He will not speak on his own, he will speak only what he hears, an he will tell you what is yet to come. He will glorify Me because it is **FROM ME** THAT HE WILL RECEIVE WHAT HE WILL MAKE KNOWN TO YOU**! All that belongs to the Father is Mine. That is why I said the Spirit will **RECEIVE FROM ME** what he will make known to you.



Hebrews 12:2: Let us fix our eyes on Jesus, the **AUTHOR** and **PERFECTOR** OF OUR FAITH**!!**!!



Matthew 28:18-20: ! Therefore Jesus says, "**ALL AUTHORITY** in heaven and earth has been given to **ME**! Therefore go and make disciples of all nations... Teaching them to **OBEY EVERYTHING I HAVE COMMANDED YOU**{The entire New Testament}. And surely I am with you always to the very end of the age!



And so Jesus told the Holy Spirit what he should inspire the 8 writers of the New and better Covenant to write the New and Better Covenant which included about 400 New Covenant commandments all inspired by Jesus!!!



We know that Paul was martyred by orders of Nero Caesar in December of AD 66 and we know that Paul was inspired to write 2 Timothy the last of his 14 inspired books just before he ascended into heaven because of 2 Timothy 4:6-8: Paul said, "For I am already being poured out like a drink offering, and the time for my departure is near. I have fought the good fight, I have finished the race. I have kept the faith. Now there is in store for me the Crown of Righteousness!



All the other books of the New Testament except Revelation were written between AD 42 and AD 62 and had been distributed to most of the churches in the Roman Empire And so 2 Timothy 3:16: 4:1-3 included all the books of the Bible except Revelation:



2 Timothy 3:15; 4:1-3: All Scripture is **GOD-BREATHED** and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, so that the servant of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work. In the presence of God and of Christ Jesus {The Author of the NT}, who will judge the living and the dead, and in view of His appearing and His Kingdom, I give you this charge: **PREACH THE WORD** {The **ENTIRE NEW TESTAMENT} Be prepared in season and out of season; correct, rebuke and encourage--with great patience and careful instruction. For the time will come when people {Like Sadlup, ADAM7777, Hark & Chuckles}will not put up with sound doctrine



And in AD 96 Jesus added the book of Revelation to the New Testament:



Revelation 22:16,18,19: I, Jesus, have sent My angel to give you this testimony **FOR THE CHURCHES**!... I warn everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: If anyone {Like Chuckles}**ADDS* anything to them, God will *ADD* to that person the plagues described in this book {Which will include eternal torment in hell as per Rev 14:9-11}. And if anyone**TAKES WORDS AWAY** { Like the Preterists, Chuckles Sadlup, ADAM777 and Hark} God will **TAKE AWAY** from that person any share in the Tree of Life and in the Holy City {The ETERNAL **NEW JERUSALEM**} which are described in this book!!



Peter 1:23-25: You have been **BORN AGAIN THROUGH THE LIVING AND ENDURING **WORD OF GOD**!! All men are like grass, and all their glory is like the flowers of the field, the grass withers and the flowers fall, but the **WORD OF THE LORD STANDS FOREVER**. And this is the **WORD** that was preached to you.



Matthew 24:35: Jesus says, Heaven and earth will pass away, but **MY WORDS WILL NEVER PASS AWAY**!"



Colossians 3:16: Let the **WORD OF CHRIST** dwell in you richly as you teach and admonish one another with all wisdom!



What did Jesus and the Word of God say about the Apostle Paul in Acts and in 2 Peter 3:15-16??



Acts 22:24:15: Ananias said to Paul, "The God of our ancestors has **CHOSEN YOU** to **KNOW HIS WILL** and to see the Righteous One and **TO HEAR WORDS FROM HIS MOUTH**. **YOU WILL BE HIS WITNESS TO ALL PEOPLE** of what you have seen and heard.



Acts 26:16-18: The Lord Jesus said to Paul, "Now get up and stand on your feet. I have appeared to you and **APPOINTED YOU** AS A SERVANT AND AS A WITNESS OF WHAT YOU HAVE SEEN AND WILL SEE OF ME**! I am sending you to the Gentiles to open their eyes and turn then from darkness to light, and from the power of Satan to God, so that they my receive **FORGIVENESS OF SINS** and a place among those who **SANCTIFIED BY FAITH IN ME**!"



Acts 9:15: The Lord Jesus said to Ananias, "This man {PAUL} is **MY CHOSEN INSTRUMENT**to proclaim My name to the Gentiles and their kings and to the people of Israel!"



Acts 20:27: Paul said, "For I have not hesitated to proclaim to you the **WHOLE WILL OF GOD**!"



Chuckles &Satan claim the above 4 Scriptures that God inspired Luke to write are lies, thus making God a liar. These are definitely unpardonable sins which will earn chuckles eternal torment in hell.



2 Peter 3:15,16: Bear in mind that our Lord's patience means salvation, just as our **DEAR BROTHER PAUL ALSO WROTE WITH THE WISDOM THAT GOD GAVE HIM**! He writes the same way in all his letters, speaking in them of these matters. His letters contain some things that are hard to understand {For the Lost}. which IGNORANT AND UNSTABLE PEOPLE DISTORT, {Like Chuckles} as they do other Scriptures to **THEIR OWN DESTRUCTION**!{Which would be eternal torment in hell}



John 12:48: Jesus says, "There is a Judge for the one {Like Chuckles} who does not accept My words, the very words I have spoken {In Acts 9:15 & Acts 26:16-18 above} will condemn them at the Last Day!"



Galatians 6:2: **FULFILL THE LAW OF CHRIST**!!



Hebrews 12:2: Let us fix our eyes on Jesus, the **AUTHOR** AND **PERFECTER** OF OUR FAITH**!

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