Some celebrate Christmas and some don't. Regardless, at some point in history, a child was born who would become the Savior of those who would willingly confess Him as their Lord.
For some reason, when I hear this scripture in my head, it ends up being the voice of Charlie Brown. But regardless of who states it, it is one of the single most important events to have ever taken place, and all because of God's love for us.
Isa 9:6-7 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace. Of the increase of his government and peace there shall be no end, upon the throne of David, and upon his kingdom, to order it, and to establish it with judgment and with justice from henceforth even for ever. The zeal of the LORD of hosts will perform this.
(Also see Luke 2:4-21 for Jesus' birth in the New Testament.)
I agree TOTH, nobody is worried about which date to celebrate. If l understand right, the Catholics openly co-opted a pagan holiday and traded Christian themes for the pagan ones. There was no deception there. I don’t think anyone, except for a few clueless chums think the 25th is the real birthday of Jesus.
I agree. We don't know for sure, but I try not to get too nutty over things like that. Sure, it may not have been Dec 25th, but the most important part of all of it is true. Our Savior and our King was born in a manger. He showed us what it means to be true royalty in God's Kingdom.
As far as the controversy, I don't get into the pagan ideology so much, but it's there. Same thing with names of days of the week. I could go crazy challenging them, but I know what they are, and going in circles over it probably isn't going to change much, so I just smile and move forward.
Happy Holidays/Merry Christmas to you and your family. Or whatever it is you celebrate. God bless. :)
Littlest david: Do you believe the birthday of Jesus was on December 25th in the middle of winter?
Do you believe the birthday of Jesus should be called **CHRIST** **MASS** in honor of the Roman Catholic Satanic Mass??
Luke 2:8-14: There were shepherds living out in the fields nearby, keeping watch over their flocks at night. An angel of the Lord appeared to them, and the **GLORY OF THE LORD SHONE AROUND THEM**, and they were terrified. But the angel said to them, "Do not be afraid. I bring you **GOOD NEWS THAT WILL CAUSE GREAT JOY** for all the people. **TODAY** in the town of David a **SAVIOR** has been born to you, He is the Christ, the Lord!
Isaiah 9:6-7: For to us a **CHILD IS BORN, to us a Son is given, and the government will be on His shoulders. and He will be called **WONDERFUL COUNSELOR**, **MIGHTY GOD** and **PRINCE OF PEACE**. Of the greatness of His government and Peace there will be no end!
Matthew 1:20-23: The angel of the Lord appeared to Joseph and said, "Do not be afraid to take Mary home as your wife, because what is conceived in her is from the Holy Spirit. She will give birth to a Son, and you are to give Him the name **JESUS**, because **HE WILL SAVE HIS PEOPLE FROM THEIR SINS!" All this took place to fulfill what the Lord had said through the Prophet {Isaiah 7:14} "The virgin will conceive and give birth to a Son and they will call Him **IMMANUEL** which means **GOD WITH US**!!?
Do you believe the first syllable of Christmas should be pronounced **KRIS** instead of Christ in honor of Kris Kringle another name for Santa Claws??
Do you believe the 2 syllables in Christmas should be pronounced **KRIS** **MASS** or **KRIS** **MESS**??
Do you like saying *MERRY* **KRIS** **MASS** or *MERRY***KRIS** **MESS**?
Luke 3:23: Now Jesus Himself was as 30 {Human} years old when **HE BEGAN HIS MINISTRY**! {As per OT Law}
Daniel 9:24-27: 70 7"s {490 years} are decreed for your people and your holy city to finish transgression, to put an end to sin, to bring in everlasting righteousness {On the Last Day of the 70th 7} and to Anoint the Most Holy. The Anointed One, the Ruler will come after 69 7's {or 483 years}... He {The Anointed One} will confirm a Covenant for one 7 {7 years} . But in the middle of the last 7 {After 3 1/2 Years} He will put an **END TO ALL SACRIFICES AND OFFERINGS**!! {Leaving 3 1/2 years for the future Great Tribulation which will put an end to sin and bring in **EVERLASTING RIGHTEOUSNESS**!!
We know that the Resurrection of Jesus took place on April 5th AD 33. We also know that Jesus was anointed after 69 7's in the amazing prophecy on the 70 7's in Daniel 9:24-27, We also know that in the middle of the Last 7 years or after 3 1/2 years Jesus put an end to all sacrifices for sin. 3 1/2 years is 1278 days and 1278 days before April 5th AD 33 Jesus was Anointed and baptized which would be October 5th AD 29. And then after spending 40 days in the wilderness Jesus began His ministry on His 30th human birthday. And 40 days after October 5th AD 29 was the 30th human Birthday of Jesus on **NOVEMBER 14TH** AD 29!!
People miss what has really happened. Jesus doesn't just co-exist with paganism, he conquered it. Furthermore if people understood creation is the first gospel they would better understand what Jesus came to do. Jesus IS the light of the world.
May I say Parrot that our calendars don't always line up with ancient ones.
I believe Christ was born during the Feast of Tabernacles. Was that the 15-21st of Tishrei which translates to Sept. 24-30th? That is as close as I can gather with the clues given in scripture. Gives me a headache some days.
You know, not every thread has to turn into something controversial. We can just praise the Lord. But hey, just an idea. Happy holidays/Merry Christmas or whatever you celebrate everyone. Jesus is Lord and God bless.
Nobody knows the exact day Jesus was born. There’s been scholarly disagreement down through the centuries. In fact, if God thought it was important, he could simply have solved the whole date thing by inspiring the Biblical writers to include it.
Even some Roman Catholic’s know Jesus’ birth could not be proven to be on the exact date of December the 25th.
Like I mentioned earlier, Roman Bishops, Constantine and others seemed to agree to chose a popular pagan festival to celebrate the birth of Christ in a failed attempt to Christianize the pagan culture. So basically even today we’re left with a bizarre marriage of paganism and Christianity.
I believe some of the reasons debating the actual birthday of Jesus becomes unnecessarily controversial is because of basic historical ignorance, confident incompetence, inexcusable carelessness AND inability to separate fact from opinion.
It’s amazing to observe the careless of the Pinocchio prophetic who has chosen to publicly to expose his lack of study skills by asking if I believe 12/25 is the actual birth of Jesus.
Goes to show he hardly comprehends very short posts. This is not a criticism of prophetic’s intelligence but his obvious laziness. comprehension takes a effort.
Comprehension, reading and grammar are all very important studies to prepare one to properly interpret and understand literature.
This explains prophetic’s consuming failure to properly interpret and understand scripture. Or even little short posts