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**WHAT DOES GOD'S WORD SAY ABOUT THE PREACHING OF MEN AND WOMEN IN THE CHURCH**??
Posted : 9 Dec, 2019 03:41 PM
** WHAT DOES GOD'S WORD SAY ABOUT THE PREACHING AND TEACHING OF MEN AND WOMEN IN THE CHURCH**??
Titus 1:6-9: An **ELDER** must be blameless, faithful to **HIS** wife, a **MAN** whose children believe... Since an **OVERSEER** manages God's household, **HE** must be blameless... **HE** must **HOLD FIRMLY** to the trustworthy message as it has been taught, so that **HE** can encourage others by **SOUND DOCTRINE and **REFUTE THOSE** WHO OPPOSE IT**.
I Timothy 5:17: The **ELDERS** who direct rhe affairs of the church well are worthy of a double honor, especially those whose work is **PREACHING ** and **TEACHING**!
I Timothy 3:1 Whoever desires to be an **OVERSEER** desires a noble task. Now the **OVERSEER**is to be above reproach, faithful to **HIS** wife, tenperate, self-controlled, respectable, hospitable and **ABLE TO TEACH**!!
I Timothy 2:11: A **WOMAN** should learn in quietness and full submission. I do not permit a **WOMEN** **TO TEACH** or to assume authority **OVER A MAN**; she must be **SILENT**. For Adam was formed first, then Eve. And Adam was not the one who was deceived and became a sinner!
This command in God's Word would also hold true for Christian Forums that a woman may not **TEACH** or have **AUTHORITY** over a man.
In a Christian Forum a woman can quote God's Word or give her testimony. But she is contradicting God's Word if she teaches Scripture when men are present or evaluates and condemns men's Bible studies in a Christian Forum.
I Corinthians 15:34,35:**WOMEN** should remain silent in the churches, They are not allowed **TO SPEAK**, but must be in submission, as the law says. If they want to inquire about anything, they should ask their husbands at home; for it is **DISGRACEFUL** for a **WOMAN** **TO SPEAK IN THE CHURCH**!!
2 Peter 3:15,16: Bear in mind that our Lord's patience means salvation, just as our **DEAR BROTHER PAUL** also wrote you with the **WISDOM GOD GAVE TO HIM**. He writes the same way in all his letters, speaking in them of these matters. His letters contain some things that are hard to understand {To unbelievers} which **IGNORANT AND UNSTABLE PEOPLE DISTORT**, as they do other Scriptures, to their own **DESTRUCTION**!
I Timothy 3:16,17: All Scripture is **GOD-BREATHEED** and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, so that the servant of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work. In the presence of God and of Christ Jesus, who will judge the living and the dead and in view of His appearing and His Kingdom, I give you this charge: **PREACH THE WORD**; be prepared in season in out of season, correct, rebuke and encourage--with great patience and careful instruction. For the time will come when people will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear!!
I Peter 1:23-25: For you have been **BORN AGAIN**, not of perishable seed but the imperishable, through the living and enduring **WORD OF GOD**. For all people are like grass, and all their glory is like flowers in the field; the grass withers and the flowers fail, but the **WORD OF THE LORD ENDURES FOREVER**!!
**WHAT DOES GOD'S WORD SAY ABOUT THE PREACHING OF MEN AND WOMEN IN THE CHURCH**??
Posted : 9 Dec, 2019 04:36 PM
I Timothy 2:11: A **WOMAN** should learn in quietness and full submission. I do not permit a **WOMEN** **TO TEACH** or to assume authority **OVER A MAN**; she must be **SILENT**. For Adam was formed first, then Eve. And Adam was not the one who was deceived and became a sinner!
This command in God's Word would also hold true for Christian Forums that a woman may not **TEACH** or have **AUTHORITY** over a man.
There are some who teach that God's command that a woman bot teach or have a authority over man applies only to churches. However church is not even mentioned in this command and certainly would also apply to women teaching God's Word to men in Christian colleges or seminaries or Christian conferences or forums!
In a Christian Forum a woman can quote God's Word or give her testimony. But she is contradicting God's Word if she teaches Scripture when men are present or evaluates and condemns men's Bible studies in a Christian Forum.
There is only one exception to this command of God in Acts 18:26: He began to speak boldly in the synagogue. When Priscilla and Aquila heard him, **THEY** invited him to their home and explained to him the way of God more adequately!
And so a woman may teach a man in their home when her husband is present is the only exception to the above command. This would also include her male children.
There are some Bible scholars who teach that women may teach boys under 12 years of age since they are not considered to be men until they are 12 years old. Jesus first started teaching in the Temple when He was 12 1/2 years old as per Luke 2:41-50.
**WHAT DOES GOD'S WORD SAY ABOUT THE PREACHING OF MEN AND WOMEN IN THE CHURCH**??
Posted : 9 Dec, 2019 04:44 PM
Prophetic is just upset because there are so many women who study and understand the Bible better than many men.
Some “men” like “prophetic” regularly teach false doctrines.
But there are many women who are more qualified to teach Bible on a forum such as this than “prophetic” who hardly knows anything about biblical interpretation or teaching
**WHAT DOES GOD'S WORD SAY ABOUT THE PREACHING OF MEN AND WOMEN IN THE CHURCH**??
Posted : 9 Dec, 2019 05:07 PM
Once again we read the words of a self proclaimed “prophetic” who hasn’t any idea what he talking about.
Check our this “prophetic” nonsense quote:
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There are some who teach that God's command that a woman bot teach or have a authority over man applies only to churches. However church is not even mentioned in this command and certainly would also apply to women teaching God's Word to men in Christian colleges or seminaries or Christian conferences or forums!
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ok, we’ve just heard from a self-proclaimed “prophetic” who obviously knows nothing about Bible interpretation.
So now let’s turn to scripture itself as our authority.
In 1 Timothy 3:14–15
Paul teaches the main idea of all three of his letters:
“I am writing these instructions to you so that, if I am delayed, you may know >>>>>>how one ought to behave in the household of God<<<<, which is >>>>>the church<<<<of the living God, the pillar and bulwark of the truth.”
So once again we see how the Word of God contradicts the false teaching of our very own self-proclaimed “prophetic” who is not a prophetic or a prophet
**WHAT DOES GOD'S WORD SAY ABOUT THE PREACHING OF MEN AND WOMEN IN THE CHURCH**??
Posted : 9 Dec, 2019 05:13 PM
Matthew 23:9: Jesus says, "Do not call anyone on earth **FATHER**, for you have **ONE FATHER** and He is in heaven!!"
The Roman Catholic Church and littlestdavid wrongly claim that our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ is completely **CO-EQUAL** WITH GOD THE FATHER**???
Jon 1:18: No one has ever seen God, but the one and only Son, who is Himself God and is in closest relationship with the Father, has made Him known!
Dueteronomy 18:17-19: The Lord said to Moses, "I will raise up for them a Prophet like you from among their fellow Israelites, and I will put My words in His mouth. He will tell them everything I command Him. I Myself will call to account anyone who does not listen to My words that the Prophet speaks in My name!"
John 14:23,24, 28: Jesus says, "Anyone who loves Me will obey My teaching, My Father will love them and We will come too them an make our home with them. Anyone who does not love Me will not obey My teaching. These words you hear are not My own, **THEY BELONG TO THE FATHER WHO SENT ME**.... You have heard Me say, 'I am going away and am coming back to you.' If you loved Me, you would be glad I am going to the **FATHER** , for the **FATHER IS GREATER THAN I!"
Revelation 1:1: The Revelation from Jesus Christ which God {The **FATHER**} **GAVE HIM** to show His servants which must take place!
John 17:17: Jesus prayed to His **FATHER**, "Sanctify them by the Truth, **YOUR WORD** IS TRUTH**!!
Jesus taught us to only **PRAY TO GOD THE FATHER**:
Matthew 5:6-15: Jesus says, "When you pray, go into your room, close the door and **PRAY TO YOUR FATHER**, who is unseen. Then your **FATHER**, who sees what is done in secret, will **REWARD YOU**. And when you pray, do not keep on babbling like pagans, for they think they will be heard because of their many words. Do not be like them, for your **FATHER** knows what you need before you ask Him. This the is how you should pray: 'Our **FATHER** in heaven, hallowed be your name, **YOUR KINGDOM COME** {See I Corinthians 15:22-24 below}, your will be done, on earth as it is in heaven. Give us this day our daily bread. And forgive us our debts {sins}, as we forgive our debtors.... For if you forgive other people who sin against you, your heavenly **FATHER** will also forgive you. but if you do not forgive others their sins, your **FATHER** will not forgive your sins'!"
Luke 11:1-4: One day Jesus was praying in a certain place. When He finished, one of His disciples said to Him, "Lord, teach us to pray. Jesus said to them, "When you pray, say: "**FATHER**, hallowed be your name, **YOUR KINGDOM COME** Give us each day our daily bread. Forgive us our sins, for we forgive everyone who sins against us!'"
I Corinthians 15:22-24: For as in Adam all die , so in Christ all will be made alive. But each in turn, Christ, the Firstfruits, then, when He comes those who belong to Him. Then the end will come when He hands over the **KINGDOM TO GOD THE **FATHER**!
John 6:37,39,44,65: Jesus says, "**ALL THAT THE **FATHER** GIVES ME** will come to Me, and whoever comes to Me I will **NEVER** drive away... And this is the will of Him who sent Me, that I shall **LOSE NONE** of all that **HE HAS GIVEN ME**, but raise them up at the Last Day.... No one can come to Me **UNLESS THE **FATHER**WHO SENT ME DRAWS HIM**, and I will raise him up at the Last Day!!... No one can come to Me **UNLESS THE **FATHER** HAS ENABLED THEM**!!"
Not every one who says to me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he who does the **WILL OF MY FATHER** who is in heaven." (Matthew 7:21)
Luke 22:42: Jesus says, **FATHER**, if you are willing, take this cup from Me; yet not My will, but **YOUR WILL BE DONE!!"
The Roman Catholic Church and littlestdavid sinfully claim that our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ is completely **CO-EQUAL** WITH GOD THE FATHER**???
**WHAT DOES GOD'S WORD SAY ABOUT THE PREACHING OF MEN AND WOMEN IN THE CHURCH**??
Posted : 9 Dec, 2019 05:59 PM
littlest David believes that because I Timothy chapter 3 talks about the church that everything written in I Timothy is only for the church. However the church is not even mentioned once in I Timothy chapters 1 and 2.
I Timothy 2:11: A **WOMAN** should learn in quietness and full submission. I do not permit a **WOMEN** **TO TEACH** or to assume authority **OVER A MAN**; she must be **SILENT**. For Adam was formed first, then Eve. And Adam was not the one who was deceived and became a sinner!
This command in God's Word would also hold true for Christian Forums that a woman may not **TEACH** or have **AUTHORITY** over a man.
There are some command that a woman notteach or have a authority over man applies only to churches. However church is not even mentioned in this command and certainly would also apply to women teaching God's Word to men in Christian colleges or seminaries or Christian conferences or forums!
In a Christian Forum a woman can quote God's Word or give her testimony. But she is contradicting God's Word if she teaches Scripture when men are present or evaluates and condemns men's Bible studies in a Christian Forum.
There is only one exception to this command of God in Acts 18:26: He began to speak boldly in the synagogue. When Priscilla and Aquila heard him, **THEY** invited him to their home and explained to him the way of God more adequately!
And so a woman may teach a man in their home when her husband is present is the only exception to the above command. This would also include her male children.
There are some Bible scholars who teach that women may teach boys under 12 years of age since they are not considered to be men until they are 12 years old. Jesus first started teaching in the Temple when He was 12 1/2 years old as per Luke 2:41-50.
**WHAT DOES GOD'S WORD SAY ABOUT THE PREACHING OF MEN AND WOMEN IN THE CHURCH**??
Posted : 9 Dec, 2019 06:37 PM
chuckk quotes Galatians 3:28There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is neither male nor female; for you are all one in Christ Jesus."
And then chuckk implies that all the commands for men and women are equal in God's Word. However, there are about 40 commands for a woman that are completely different for a man in the New Testament , such as:
Ephesians 5:22-24: Wives submit yourselves to your husbands as you do to the Lord. For the husband is the head of the wife as Christ is Head of the church, His body of which He is the Savior. Now as the church submits to Christ, so also wives should **SUBMIT TO THEIR HUSBANDS IN EVERYTHING!
I Timothy 2:11: A **WOMAN** should learn in quietness and full submission. I do not permit a **WOMEN** **TO TEACH** or to assume authority **OVER A MAN**; she must be **SILENT**. For Adam was formed first, then Eve. And Adam was not the one who was deceived and became a sinner!
This command in God's Word would also hold true for Christian Forums that a woman may not **TEACH** or have **AUTHORITY** over a man.
There are some command that a woman not teach or have a authority over man applies only to churches. However church is not even mentioned in this command and certainly would also apply to women teaching God's Word to men in Christian colleges or seminaries or Christian conferences or forums!
In a Christian Forum a woman can quote God's Word or give her testimony. But she is contradicting God's Word if she teaches Scripture when men are present or evaluates and condemns men's Bible studies in a Christian Forum.
There is only one exception to this command of God in Acts 18:26: He began to speak boldly in the synagogue. When Priscilla and Aquila heard him, **THEY** invited him to their home and explained to him the way of God more adequately!
And so a woman may teach a man in their home when her husband is present is the only exception to the above command. This would also include her male children.
There are some Bible scholars who teach that women may teach boys under 12 years of age since they are not considered to be men until they are 12 years old. Jesus first started teaching in the Temple when He was 12 1/2 years old as per Luke 2:41-50.
**WHAT DOES GOD'S WORD SAY ABOUT THE PREACHING OF MEN AND WOMEN IN THE CHURCH**??
Posted : 9 Dec, 2019 06:52 PM
Paul's instructions were given 2000 years ago to individual early Churches. (Specifically to gentiles who had problems with females after coming out of pagan female dominated religious). Paul's advice is sound advice, especially applicable in the wake of modern radical feminism. However you are just as radical in the opposite direction.
Prophetic, simple question for you:
(request a simple answer)
Who made Paul's words into God's word for all Churches for all time?
**WHAT DOES GOD'S WORD SAY ABOUT THE PREACHING OF MEN AND WOMEN IN THE CHURCH**??
Posted : 9 Dec, 2019 07:34 PM
chuckk quotes Galatians 3:28There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is neither male nor female; for you are all one in Christ Jesus."
And then chuckk implies that all the commands for men and women are equal in God's Word. However, there are about 40 commands for a woman that are completely different for a man in the New Testament , such as:
Ephesians 5:22-24: Wives submit yourselves to your husbands as you do to the Lord. For the husband is the head of the wife as Christ is Head of the church, His body of which He is the Savior. Now as the church submits to Christ, so also wives should **SUBMIT TO THEIR HUSBANDS IN EVERYTHING!
Then chuckk makes an extremely Satanic statement:
"Who made Paul's words into God's word for all Churches for all time????"
2 Peter 3:15,16: Bear in mind that our Lord's patience means salvation, just as our **DEAR BROTHER PAUL** also wrote you with the wisdom God gave him. He writes the same way in all his letters, speaking in them of these matters. His letters contain some things that are hard to understand, which **IGNORANT AND UNSTABLE PEOPLE** {Like chuck} distort, as they do other Scriptures, to their own destruction!!
2 Timothy 3:15,16: 4:1,2: You have known the **HOLY SCRIPTURES**, which are able to make you wise for salvation through faith in Christ Jesus. **ALL SCRIPTURE IS GOD-BREATHED** and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, so that the man of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work. In the presence of God and of Christ Jesus, who will judge the living and the dead, and in view of His appearing and His kingdom, I give you this charge: **PREACH THE WORD**!! {**WHICH IS THE ENTIRE NEW COVENANT AND NEW TESTAMENT**!!} Be prepared in season and out of season; correct, rebuke and encourage--with great patience and careful instruction. For the time will come when people {Like chuckk and littlestdavid} will not put up with sound doctrine!!
I Timothy 2:11: A **WOMAN** should learn in quietness and full submission. I do not permit a **WOMEN** **TO TEACH** or to assume authority **OVER A MAN**; she must be **SILENT**. For Adam was formed first, then Eve. And Adam was not the one who was deceived and became a sinner!
This command in God's Word would also hold true for Christian Forums that a woman may not **TEACH** or have **AUTHORITY** over a man.
There are some command that a woman not teach or have a authority over man applies only to churches. However church is not even mentioned in this command and certainly would also apply to women teaching God's Word to men in Christian colleges or seminaries or Christian conferences or forums!
In a Christian Forum a woman can quote God's Word or give her testimony. But she is contradicting God's Word if she teaches Scripture when men are present or evaluates and condemns men's Bible studies in a Christian Forum.
There is only one exception to this command of God in Acts 18:26: He began to speak boldly in the synagogue. When Priscilla and Aquila heard him, **THEY** invited him to their home and explained to him the way of God more adequately!
And so a woman may teach a man in their home when her husband is present is the only exception to the above command. This would also include her male children.
There are some Bible scholars who teach that women may teach boys under 12 years of age since they are not considered to be men until they are 12 years old. Jesus first started teaching in the Temple when He was 12 1/2 years old as per Luke 2:41-50.
**WHAT DOES GOD'S WORD SAY ABOUT THE PREACHING OF MEN AND WOMEN IN THE CHURCH**??
Posted : 9 Dec, 2019 08:01 PM
“Prophetic” let me help you.
You probably didn’t know but:
“Archbishop Stephen Langton and Cardinal Hugo de Sancto Caro developed different schemas for systematic division of the Bible in the early 13th century. It is the system of Archbishop Langton on which the modern chapter divisions are based”
-Wikipedia
“Prophetic” you can’t dice up doctrine just according to chapter and verse
NOTE: Prophetic hates the RCC and probably doesn’t know he uses an RCC convention of convenient by quoting chapter and verse.
But back to my point. Paul clearly states the reason for his pastoral letter to Timothy regarding women had to do with official church meetings!!
Prophetic, why do you think, they’re called Paul’s letters to Timothy are referred to as “pastoral epistles” ????
Of course instructions given to pastors concerning church conduct would apply to personal conduct as indicated but instructions in the pastoral epistles specially addressing church conduct is specifically for, you got it, church conduct !!
