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WHY IS THERE SO MUCH DIFFERENCE AMONG CHRISTIANS ABOUT WHAT THE BIBLE MEANS
Posted : 7 Dec, 2019 09:33 AM

Because some Christians just plain don’t care what the Bible says. Some refuse to the Bible’s admonition to test everything they believe and hear. Some have adopted the worlds universal tolerance philosophy that claims everyone is right and no one is wrong. Some think we’re not supposed to debate or argue at all period and they cite out of context verses that “support” that view.

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WHY IS THERE SO MUCH DIFFERENCE AMONG CHRISTIANS ABOUT WHAT THE BIBLE MEANS
Posted : 7 Dec, 2019 09:44 AM

Just a few reasons:



Because some Christians just plain don’t care what the Bible says.



Some refuse to the Bible’s admonition to test everything they believe and hear.



For some it’s a matter of what they want to believe



Others have adopted the world’s universal tolerance philosophy that claims everyone is right and no one is wrong.



Some think we’re not supposed to debate or argue at all period and they cite out of context verses that appear to “support” that view.



Some try to know the truth but don’t know how to go about it



Some think God “told” them what to believe



Some just stay with what they learned as a child



Some love a certain denomination, a teaching, a method or a tradition more than they love God even though they claim to love God more. But all they talk about is there tradition



Some suffer ignorance under ignorant preaching



Other worldly people actively and vigorously suppress all truth they don’t like

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WHY IS THERE SO MUCH DIFFERENCE AMONG CHRISTIANS ABOUT WHAT THE BIBLE MEANS
Posted : 7 Dec, 2019 11:25 AM

Many are not "born again" and lead by the Holy Spirit.

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WHY IS THERE SO MUCH DIFFERENCE AMONG CHRISTIANS ABOUT WHAT THE BIBLE MEANS
Posted : 7 Dec, 2019 11:47 AM

Exactly. The Bible says people who are not believers can’t understand



Jesus says the disobedient can’t understand either.



Others can’t understand because they love sin.



Some deify their traditions above the Deity of God or the Word of God.



For example, the Bible clearly says Jesus has several names, one of which is “Everlasting Father”.



But those who love their false traditions more than they love God also refuse to believe Scripture which IS God’s Word.



See

Isaiah 9:6



For to us a child is born, to us a son is given, and the government will be on his shoulders. And he will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.

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WHY IS THERE SO MUCH DIFFERENCE AMONG CHRISTIANS ABOUT WHAT THE BIBLE MEANS
Posted : 7 Dec, 2019 01:23 PM

Matthew 23:9: Jesus says, "Do not call anyone on earth **FATHER**, for you have **ONE FATHER** and He is in heaven!!"



It is true that some wrongly called Jesus the Everlasting Father as per Isaiah 9:6 but Jesus was not the Everlasting Father or **CO-EQUAL** with the **EVERLASTING FATHER** and would never want to be called the **EVERLASTING FATHER**.



The Roman Catholic Church and littlestdavid wrongly claim that our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ is **CO-EQUAL** WITH THE FATHER**???



Jon 1:18: No one has ever seen God, but the one and only Son, who is Himself God and is in closest relationship with the Father, has made Him known!



Dueteronomy 18:17-19: The Lord said to Moses, "I will raise up for them a Prophet like you from among their fellow Israelites, and I will put My words in His mouth. He will tell them everything I command Him. I Myself will call to account anyone who does not listen to My words that the Prophet speaks in My name!"



John 14:23,24, 28: Jesus says, "Anyone who loves Me will obey My teaching, My Father will love them and We will come too them an make our home with them. Anyone who does not love Me will not obey My teaching. These words you hear are not My own, **THEY BELONG TO THE FATHER WHO SENT ME**.... You have heard Me say, 'I am going away and am coming back to you.' If you loved Me, you would be glad I am going to the **FATHER** , for the **FATHER IS GREATER THAN I!"



John 17:17: Jesus prayed to His **FATHER**, "Sanctify them by the Truth, **YOUR WORD** IS TRUTH**!!



Matthew 5:6-15: Jesus says, "When you pray, go into your room, close the door and **PRAY TO YOUR FATHER**, who is unseen. Then your **FARTHER**, who sees what is done in secret, will **REWARD YOU**. And when you pray, do not keep on babbling like pagans, for they think they will be heard because of their many words. Do not be like them, for your **FATHER** knows what you need before you ask Him. This the is how you should pray: 'Our **FATHER** in heaven, hallowed be your name, **YOUR KINGDOM COME** {See I Corinthians 15:22-24 below}, your will be done, on earth as it is in heaven. Give us this day our daily bread. And forgive us our debts {sins}, as we forgive our debtors.... For if you forgive other people who sin against you, your heavenly **FATHER** will also forgive you. but if you do not forgive others their sins, your **FATHER** will not forgive your sins'!"



I Corinthians 15:22-24: For as in Adam all die , so in Christ all will be made alive. But each in turn, Christ, the Firstfruits, then, when He comes those who belong to Him. Then the end will come when He hands over the **KINGDOM TO GOD THE **FATHER**!



John 6:37,39,44,65: Jesus says, "**ALL THAT THE **FATHER** GIVES ME** will come to Me, and whoever comes to Me I will **NEVER** drive away... And this is the will of Him who sent Me, that I shall **LOSE NONE** of all that **HE HAS GIVEN ME**, but raise them up at the Last Day.... No one can come to Me **UNLESS THE **FATHER**WHO SENT ME DRAWS HIM**, and I will raise him up at the Last Day!!... No one can come to Me **UNLESS THE **FATHER** HAS ENABLED THEM**!!"



Our great God and Savior Jesus Christ would certainly not ever want to be called **EVERLASTING FATHER**



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WHY IS THERE SO MUCH DIFFERENCE AMONG CHRISTIANS ABOUT WHAT THE BIBLE MEANS
Posted : 7 Dec, 2019 02:16 PM

The wayward Prophetic with 7744 Pinocchio awards steps forth once again as a shining example of why we have so many isms, false beliefs, false doctrines, ignorance and illegitimate differences of opinion on what the Bible says.



Take Isaiah 9:6 for example which ever so clearly states:

For to us a child is born, to us a son is given, and the government will be on his shoulders. And he will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.



This prophecy is about Jesus who is MIGHTY GOD and EVERLASTING FATHER. The Godhead cannot state co-equality more clearly than that.



Only a bum prophetic would refuse to believe what God says about himself in his very word.



Only a false prophetic or extremely ignorant Christian would teach contrary to the clear teachings of the Bible.



But NOTICE the Isaiah 9:6 passage DOES NOT say Jesus IS God the Father.



Obviously there’s a clear biblical distinction between who the first member of the Trinity is, (God the Father)and who Jesus the Son of God is as the second member of the Trinity.



Jesus is clearly Co-equal to God the Father and God the Holy Spirit and is called the Mighty God and Everlasting Father in addition to his other names



This is example is one of many reasons we are carful to interpret the Bible carefully and we carefully note biblical distinctions.

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WHY IS THERE SO MUCH DIFFERENCE AMONG CHRISTIANS ABOUT WHAT THE BIBLE MEANS
Posted : 7 Dec, 2019 02:18 PM

Prophetic False Teaching

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WHY IS THERE SO MUCH DIFFERENCE AMONG CHRISTIANS ABOUT WHAT THE BIBLE MEANS
Posted : 7 Dec, 2019 03:02 PM

Parrot quote:

The Roman Catholic Church and littlestdavid wrongly claim that our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ is **CO-EQUAL** WITH THE FATHER**???

ARE YOU THAT DENSE PARROT???? I HAVE POSTED THIS VERSE BEFORE AND SO HAS TEDDYHUG!

Philippians 2:6-11 King James Version (KJV)

6 Who, being in the form of God, >>>THOUGHT IT NOT ROBBERY TO BE EQUAL WITH GOD:<<<<

7 But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men:

8 And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross.

9 Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name:

10 That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth;

11 And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.

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Posted : 7 Dec, 2019 03:07 PM

Matthew 23:9: Jesus says, "Do not call anyone on earth **FATHER**, for you have **ONE FATHER** and He is in heaven!!"



It is true that some wrongly called Jesus the Everlasting Father as per Isaiah 9:6 but Jesus was not the Everlasting Father or **CO-EQUAL** with the **EVERLASTING FATHER** and would never want to be called the **EVERLASTING FATHER**.



The Roman Catholic Church and littlestdavid wrongly claim that our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ is completely **CO-EQUAL** WITH THE FATHER**???



Jon 1:18: No one has ever seen God, but the one and only Son, who is Himself God and is in closest relationship with the Father, has made Him known!



Dueteronomy 18:17-19: The Lord said to Moses, "I will raise up for them a Prophet like you from among their fellow Israelites, and I will put My words in His mouth. He will tell them everything I command Him. I Myself will call to account anyone who does not listen to My words that the Prophet speaks in My name!"



John 14:23,24, 28: Jesus says, "Anyone who loves Me will obey My teaching, My Father will love them and We will come too them an make our home with them. Anyone who does not love Me will not obey My teaching. These words you hear are not My own, **THEY BELONG TO THE FATHER WHO SENT ME**.... You have heard Me say, 'I am going away and am coming back to you.' If you loved Me, you would be glad I am going to the **FATHER** , for the **FATHER IS GREATER THAN I!"



John 17:17: Jesus prayed to His **FATHER**, "Sanctify them by the Truth, **YOUR WORD** IS TRUTH**!!



Matthew 5:6-15: Jesus says, "When you pray, go into your room, close the door and **PRAY TO YOUR FATHER**, who is unseen. Then your **FARTHER**, who sees what is done in secret, will **REWARD YOU**. And when you pray, do not keep on babbling like pagans, for they think they will be heard because of their many words. Do not be like them, for your **FATHER** knows what you need before you ask Him. This the is how you should pray: 'Our **FATHER** in heaven, hallowed be your name, **YOUR KINGDOM COME** {See I Corinthians 15:22-24 below}, your will be done, on earth as it is in heaven. Give us this day our daily bread. And forgive us our debts {sins}, as we forgive our debtors.... For if you forgive other people who sin against you, your heavenly **FATHER** will also forgive you. but if you do not forgive others their sins, your **FATHER** will not forgive your sins'!"



I Corinthians 15:22-24: For as in Adam all die , so in Christ all will be made alive. But each in turn, Christ, the Firstfruits, then, when He comes those who belong to Him. Then the end will come when He hands over the **KINGDOM TO GOD THE **FATHER**!



John 6:37,39,44,65: Jesus says, "**ALL THAT THE **FATHER** GIVES ME** will come to Me, and whoever comes to Me I will **NEVER** drive away... And this is the will of Him who sent Me, that I shall **LOSE NONE** of all that **HE HAS GIVEN ME**, but raise them up at the Last Day.... No one can come to Me **UNLESS THE **FATHER**WHO SENT ME DRAWS HIM**, and I will raise him up at the Last Day!!... No one can come to Me **UNLESS THE **FATHER** HAS ENABLED THEM**!!"



The Roman Catholic Church and littlestdavid wrongly claim that our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ is completely **CO-EQUAL** WITH THE FATHER**???



Our great God and Savior Jesus Christ would certainly not ever want to be called **EVERLASTING FATHER**



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WHY IS THERE SO MUCH DIFFERENCE AMONG CHRISTIANS ABOUT WHAT THE BIBLE MEANS
Posted : 7 Dec, 2019 03:12 PM

David quote:

But NOTICE the Isaiah 9:6 passage DOES NOT say Jesus IS God the Father.

End quote

David , I have LOTS of grace for you.

READ the verse slowly and let it sink in.......

Isaiah 9:6 King James Version (KJV)

6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor,>> The<<< mighty God, >>The everlasting Father<<<, The Prince of Peace.

Isaiah 43:11 King James Version (KJV)

11 I, even I, am the Lord; and >>>beside me there is no saviour.<<<<

That is because HE came in the form of a man . The Father is Jesus. But in human form. A son from mary's womb. Get it now?

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Posted : 7 Dec, 2019 03:38 PM

John 10:27-30: Jesus says, "My sheep listen to My voice, I know them, and they follow Me. I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish, no one can snatch them out of My hand. MY **FATHER** WHO HAS GIVEN THEM TO ME IS ** **GREATER THAN ALL**;



John 6:37,39,44,65: Jesus says, "**ALL THAT THE **FATHER** GIVES ME** will come to Me, and whoever comes to Me I will **NEVER** drive away... And this is the will of Him who sent Me, that I shall **LOSE NONE** of all that **HE HAS GIVEN ME**, but raise them up at the Last Day.... No one can come to Me **UNLESS THE **FATHER**WHO SENT ME DRAWS HIM**, and I will raise him up at the Last Day!!... No one can come to Me **UNLESS THE **FATHER** HAS ENABLED THEM**!!"



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