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can anger,bitterness, self righteousness and hatred do to a person.
Posted : 28 Sep, 2019 09:36 AM
Hello everyone.
What cab anger bitterness,self righteousness, and hatred do to a person; These can lead a person to judge others about what the believe, even calling them satan, or followers of satan.
Such people actually hate GOD Almighty as the Holy Spirit is not evident in their lives.
When a person judges another and calls others satan that person stands in the place of the SON of GOD, who is the only one that has the authority and power to make such judgements.
Such people are ANTI MESSIAH, and are under the judgement of MESSIAH, these people need Faith, in Messiah in order to repent. Trying to correct such a person is almost impossible seeing they believe everyone is wrong and they are right.
These people should be prayed for and pitied as they are not believers of MESSIAH.
can anger,bitterness, self righteousness and hatred do to a person.
Posted : 28 Sep, 2019 11:46 AM
Some people are jealous also grace . And some are just there to build you up to watch you collapse later. They are not real friends. They are "toxic friends".
Sometimes we need to disentangle our lives from others who are not a part of Yahweh's plans for us . They will just get in the way with their bickering and quarrelsome venom and drag us down to their level .These types have no constructive criticism . These types are there to strike like scorpions and attack on purpose with NO intention of solving problems or help you on your journey with Messiah . These types also think they are God of your life here on flat earth and you better do what he says!
can anger,bitterness, self righteousness and hatred do to a person.
Posted : 28 Sep, 2019 03:43 PM
I actually got accused of bowing my knee to the "Laundry god" because I was doing laundry late at night instead of sleeping . It was the night before the sabbath so I was preparing and getting work done so I could relax with the Lord in his word. This person accused me of being a "child of the night".
He called me a child of satan
Hey Einstein, thought that was what you was supposed to do before the sabbath! Prepare! oh but wait..I had ALL week to prepare! Nope , not with a 110 dryer in my Son's room.
can anger,bitterness, self righteousness and hatred do to a person.
Posted : 29 Sep, 2019 08:43 PM
**WE ARE ALL WAITING FOR THE NEW HEAVEN THE NEW EARTH AND THE ETERNAL NEW JERUSALEM**!!
Except KJVonly and the Preterists who believe in an earthly kingdom which began in AD 70. They believe that everything in Revelation was completed in AD 70????
Hebrews 12:26-28: God says, "Once more I will shake not only the earth but also the heavens. The words "once more" indicate the removing of what can be shaken--that is created things--so that what cannot be shaken may remain. Therefore, since we are receiving a *KINGDOM* that can not be shaken let us be thankful...for our God is a consuming fire!
2 Peter 3:10-13: But the Day of the Lord will come like a thief. The heavens will DISAPPEAR with a roar; the elements will be destroyed by fire, and the earth and *EVERYTHING* in it will be burned up . Since everything will be destroyed in this way, what kind what kind of people ought you to be? You ought to live holy and godly lives as you {**CHURCH SAINTS*} wait eagerly for the Day of God to come. That Day will bring about the destruction of the heavens by fire, and the elements will melt in the heat. But in keeping with His promise **WE** {Excluding the Preterists like KJVonly} are looking forward to a New heavens and a New Earth, the home of righteousness.
I Corinthians 15:50--51: I declare to you brothers, that flesh and blood CANNOT INHERIT the *KINGDOM OF GOD*... Listen I tell you a mystery: we will not all sleep, but we will all be changed, in a flash, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet."
John 18:36: Jesus says, "My *KINGDOM* is not of this world....But now, my Kingdom is from another place!!"
Matthew 25:31-34: Jesus says, "When the Son of Man comes in His glory , and all the angels with Him, He will sit on His throne in heavenly glory. All the nations will be gathered before Him, and He will separate the people one from another..He will put the sheep on the right and the goats on His left. Then the King will say to those on His right, "Come you who are blessed of My Father, take your inheritance, the *KINGDOM* prepared for you!!"
**WE** ARE ALL WAITING FOR THE NEW EARTH, THE NEW HEAVENS AND THE HEAVENLY NEW JERUSALEM!!
Revelation 21:1-5: Then I saw a New heaven and a New Earth, for the {present} first heaven and first earth had passed away, and there was no longer any sea. I saw the Holy City, the **NEW JERUSALEM**, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared as a bride beautifully dressed for her husband. And I heard a loud voice from the throne saying, "Now the dwelling of God is with men, and He will live with them. They will be His people, and God Himself will be with them. They will be His people, and God Himself will be with them and be their God. He will wipe every tear from their eyes, There will be no more death or mourning or crying or pain, for the old order of things has passed away." He who was seated on the throne said, "I am making **EVERYTHING NEW**!" Then He said, "Write this down, for these words are TRUSTWORTHY and TRUE!"
Hebrews 11:13-16: All these people {Abraham, Sarah Isaac, Jacob, Noah etc} were still living by faith when they died. They did not receive the things promised; they only saw them from a distance. And they admitted that they were aliens and strangers on earth. People who say such things show they are looking for a country of their own. If they had been thinking of the country they had left, they would have had opportunity to return. Instead, they were looking for a BETTER COUNTRY--a HEAVENLY ONE. Therefore God is not ashamed to be called their God, for he has prepared a *CITY* (The *NEW JERUSALEM*} for them!!
Galatians 4:25,26: Now Hagar stands for Mount Sinai in Arabia and corresponds to the present city of Jerusalem, because she is in slavery with her children. But the **JERUSALEM** that is **ABOVE** is free, and she is our MOTHER !!
The New Jerusaem is described in Revelation 21:9 to Revelation 22:5. The New Jerusalem will be 12,000 stadia long, high and wide as per Revelation 21:16. A stadia is 606 feet long which is the exact same length as the ancient Greek stadium. 606 feet times 12,000 equals 7,272,000 feet which is 1377 miles plus 1,440 feet. A mile is exactly 5,280 feet. {1377 times 5,280 feet equal 7,270,560 feet.} And so the New Jerusalem will be exactly 1377 miles plus 1,440 feet long, wide and high!!
Revelation 21:9-12,15-16,19,23,27; Revelation 22:1-6: The angel said to John, “Come, I will show you the Bride the Wife of the Lamb.” And he carried me away in the Spirit to a mountain great and high, and showed me the Holy City, Jerusalem, coming down out of Heaven from from God It shone like the glory of God, and its brilliance was like that of a very precious jewel. It had a great high wall {1377 miles plus 1,440 feet HIGH!} with 12 gates, and with 12 angels at the gates.
The angel who talked with me had a measuring rod of gold to measure the City, its gates and its walls. The City was laid out like a square, as long as it was wide. He measured the City with the rod and found it to be 12,000 stadia {A Stadia is exactly 606 feet} in length, and as wide and high as it is long. {1377 miles plus 1,440 feet long, wide and high} The wall was made of Jasper, and the City of pure gold, as pure as glass. The foundations of the city walls were decorated with every kind of precious stone....... The great street of the City was of pure gold, like transparent glass...... Only those written in the Lamb's Book of Life will be able to enter the New Jerusalem!
Then the angel showed me the river of the Water of Life, as clear as crystal, flowing from the throne of God and the Lamb {Jesus} down the middle of the great street of the City. On each side of the river stood the Tree of Life, bearing 12 crops of fruit, yielding its fruit every month... The throne of God and of the **LAMB** will be in the City, and his servants will serve Him. They will see His face and His name will be on their foreheads. There will be no more night!! They will not need the light of the lamp or the light of the sun, for the Lord God will give them light. And they will reign **FOR EVER AND EVER**. The angel said to me, “These words are TRUSTWORTHY and TRUE!!”
JESUS WILL WRITE ON US THE NAME OF THE CITY OF GOD THE **NEW JERUSALEM**!!
Revelation 2:18; 3:12,21: Jesus says, "To him who overcomes I will give him a white stone with a new name written on it, known only to him who receives it... I will write on him the name of the City of My God, the **NEW JERUSALEM**, which is coming down out of heaven from My God....And I will give the right to sit with Me on My throne, just as I overcame and sat down with My Father on His throne."
Revelation 22:16,18,19: "I, Jesus, have sent My angel to give you this testimony **FOR THE CHURCHES**!... I warn everyone who hears the words of this book: If anyone **ADDS** anything to them {Like the Preterists}, God will add to them the plagues described in this book {Including eternal hell in Rev 14:7-9}. And if anyone **TAKES WORDS AWAY** from this book of prophecy {Like the Preterists}, God will take away from that person any share in the Tree of Life and in the Holy City {The New Jerusalem}, which are described in this book!"
can anger,bitterness, self righteousness and hatred do to a person.
Posted : 30 Sep, 2019 06:02 AM
The Preterists teach that every prophecy in God's Word was fulfilled in AD 70 including the Second Coming of Jesus and an eternal earthly kingdom instead of a **FUTURE SECOND COMING OF JESUS** and our glorious eternal home in the **NEW HEAVENS** and a NEW EARTH** and the eternal **NEW JERUSALEM**!!
Matthew 24:1-3: Jesus left the Temple and was walking away when Hid disciples came up to call his attention to its buildings. "Do you see all these things?" Jesus asked, "Truly I tell you, not one stone will be left on another; every one will be thrown down!" As Jesus was sitting on the Mount of Olives, the disciples came to him privately. "Tell us, they said, "{Question #1} When will this happen, and {Question #2} what will be the sign of your Coming and the **END** of the age?"
The **PRETERISTS** like KJV only believe this was only 1 Question??
The Mount of Olives Prophecies and answers to these 2 questions by Jesus are in Matthew 24 and 25 Mark 13 and Luke 21. However the answer to Question {#1} as to when the Temple will be completely destroyed in AD 70 is only answered in Luke 21:20-24 below when Jesus warns His saints to flee to the mountains, and Matthew 24:34 only confirms that the Temple and Jerusalem will be destroyed within a generation and they were in AD 70.
Luke 21:20-24: Jesus prophesied, "When you see Jerusalem being surrounded by armies, you will know that its destruction is near {In AD 70}. Then let those in Judea flee to the mountains, let those in the city get out and let those in the country not enter the city. For this is the time of punishment in fulfillment of all that has been written {See Daniel 9:26}... There will be great distress in the land against this people. They {The Jews} will fall by the sword and will be taken as prisoners to all the nations. Jerusalem will be trampled on by the Gentiles until the times of the Gentiles are fulfilled. {This prophecy was **FULFILLED** when the Jews took over East Jerusalem on May 14th, AD 1948 and completed when the Jews took over West Jerusalem form the Jordanian Gentiles on June 7th AD 1967 almost 1900 years later!
All of the other prophecies by Jesus in the Mount of Olives prophecies in Matthew 24 and 25, Mark 13 and Luke 21 refer to Question #2 "What will be the sign of your coming and the end of the age? will be completed by the 42-month {See Rev 13:4-10 below} Great Tribulation just before the Second Coming of Jesus on the Last Day when all of his saints will be resurrected and receive their new heavenly bodies immediately followed by the resurrection of the Lost and Judgment Day in Matthew 25:31-46
**SUCH AS** Matthew 24:9-13 which prophesies the great falling away at the beginning of the Great Tribulation of many in the church when they will be hated by **ALL** the nations of the world followed by the prophecy by Jesus in Matthew 24:14 that the Gospel must be preached to **ALL** the nations of the world before the End will come. By AD 70 the Gospel had only been preached to those nations in the Roman Empire!
The **PRETERISTS** like KJVonly believe that all of the following events took place in AD 70 ????
In Matthew 24:3,9-13: The disciples asked Jesus, “What will be the sign of your Coming and the end of the age?? Jesus answered….. {During the 42-month Great Tribulation} “Then *YOU* will be handed over to be persecuted and put to death, and *YOU will be hated by **ALL NATIONS** **BECAUSE OF ME**. At that time many will turn away from the Faith and will betray and hate each other, and many false prophets will appear and deceive many people. Because of the increase of wickedness, the love of *MOST will grow cold, but he who stands firm to the **END** will be saved.”
Rev 13:4-10: Men worshiped the dragon {Satan} because he had given authority to the Beast {666} and they also worshiped the beast and asked, “Who is like the Beast? Who can make war against him?” The Beast will exercise his authority for 42 {30-day} months {1260 days}, He will be given authority over **EVERY** tribe, people, language and **NATION**. All inhabitants of the earth will worship the Beast--all whose names have not been written in the **LAMB'S** Book of Life. Whoever has ears let him hear: "If anyone is to go into captivity, into captivity they will go. If anyone is to be killed with the sword, with the sword he will be killed." This calls for patient endurance and faithfulness on the part of God's saints!
Matthew 24:14: Jesus prophesied, "And this Gospel of the Kingdom will be preached in the **WHOLE WORLD** as a testimony to **ALL NATIONS** and **THEN the **END will come!"
Matthew 24:29-31: Immediately after the distress of those {1260} days the sun will be darkened and the moon will not give its light and the **STARS WILL FALL** from the sky! {Luke 21:28 adds "When these things begin to take place, stand up and lift up your heads, because your redemption is drawing near!"} Then will ***APPEAR*** the sign of the Son of Man in heaven. and then all the {Unsaved} peoples of the earth will mourn when the see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven, with power and great glory. And He will send His angels with a loud {7th & Last} trumpet call, and the will gather **HIS ELECT** from the 4 winds, from one end of heavens to the other!" {Mark 13:27 adds "From the ends of the earth!"}
Matthew 25:31-34,41,46: Jesus prophesied, "When the Son of Man comes in His glory, and all the angels with Him, He will sit on His glorious throne. All the nations will be gathered before Him, an He will separate the people one from another as a shepherd separates his sheep from the goats. He will put the sheep on His right and the goats on His left. **THEN** the King will say to those on his right. Come, you are blessed by My Father ; take your inheritance , the Kingdom prepared for you since the creation of the world... "Then He will say to those on His left, 'Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the Devil and his angels....**THEN** they will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life!"
And so the only supposedly good Preterist verses in Mark 9:1 and Matthew 24:34 actually do not prove the Preterist belief and there are over 40 versus in God's Word which totally contradict the Preterist belief!
Ay honest Bible scholar will admit that none of the above events took place in AD 70 and must all take place in the **FUTURE**. And therefore the Preterist belief that all, the above events took place in AD 70 is completely ridiculous!
can anger,bitterness, self righteousness and hatred do to a person.
Posted : 30 Sep, 2019 02:00 PM
profetic7744 why do you have to keep hounding gracenotworksaves?
In an end times scenario if we are all sat around the campfire trying to have a general conversation and you keep on you will wake up one morning on your own.
Maybe your a Christian terminator droid that can't be stopped or reasoned with or something. If so the program needs updating because your infiltration skills are near non-existent.
Say something funny or tell a joke. Anything for a change except constant scripture quotations. Just have a bit of personality because sometimes people just want to chat in a relaxed demeanour and express an opinion.
If the reply is a ton more scripture you are a droid, end of...
can anger,bitterness, self righteousness and hatred do to a person.
Posted : 30 Sep, 2019 02:47 PM
Satan and his followers really hate it when you quote God's Word. Especially Grace who believes that every Bible translation has many serious errors.
2 Timothy 3:15,16: 4:1,2: You have known the **HOLY SCRIPTURES**, which are able to make you wise for salvation through faith in Christ Jesus. **ALL SCRIPTURE IS GOD-BREATHED** and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, so that the man of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work. In the presence of God and of Christ Jesus, who will judge the living and the dead, and in view of His appearing and His kingdom, I give you this charge: **PREACH THE WORD**!! {**WHICH IS THE ENTIRE NEW COVENANT**} Be prepared in season and out of season; correct, rebuke and encourage--with great patience and careful instruction. For the time will come when people {Like Grace} will not put up with sound doctrine!
Colossians 1:25: I have become its servant by the commission God gave to me to present to you the **WORD OF GOD IN ALL ITS FULLNESS**!
I Peter 1:23-25: You have been **BORN AGAIN THROUGH THE LIVING AND ENDURING **WORD OF GOD**!! All men are like grass, and all their glory is like the flowers of the field, the grass withers and the flowers fall, but the **WORD OF THE LORD STANDS FOREVER**. And this is the **WORD** that was preached to you.
Matthew 24:35: Jesus says, Heaven and earth will pass away, but **MY WORDS WILL NEVER PASS AWAY**
John 17:17: Jesus prayed to His Father, "Sanctify them by the Truth **YOUR WORD IS TRUTH**!!"
can anger,bitterness, self righteousness and hatred do to a person.
Posted : 30 Sep, 2019 06:14 PM
I don’t think neither Marcouse nor George object to quoting scripture.
Richard, you know exactly why the list of those who object to your repetitive and lengthy posts keeps growing.
What’s your objective anyway?
Explain why you feel the need fill up EVERY thread with material that’s irrelevant to the topic under discussion?
I can only speak for myself here, but it seems if people always objected to me posting on their threads but I felt the need to weigh in on the same topic, I would start another thread and clearly state my objections.
But better yet, why don’t you offer shorter more relevant posts, quote the appropriate scripture relevant to the topic and be a gentleman. If you do that, I think the objections will go away.
That’s not to say more lengthy posts are in order on occasion but certainly not multiple ones on every thread!
Also sometimes forceful speech that gets your point across might be expected but not Satanic name calling. You don’t know a person’s heart or where they are spiritually unless they tell you
I’m not picking on just you, Richard, I’m trying and learning to be a gentleman too. As you know I haven’t been very nice at times and I regret it
can anger,bitterness, self righteousness and hatred do to a person.
Posted : 30 Sep, 2019 07:28 PM
Little David: Do you believe that those who teach Preterism are guilty of **ADDING** or **TAKING WORDS AWAY** from the prophecies in Revelation as per Revelation 22:18-19??
Revelation 22 :16,18,19: "I, Jesus, have sent My angel to give you this testimony **FOR THE CHURCHES**!... I warn everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: If anyone **ADDS* anything to them, God will add them the plagues described in this book. {Which would include eternal hell in Rev 14:9-11} And if anyone **TAKES WORDS AWAY** from this book of prophecy, God will take from that person any share in the Tree of Life and in the Holy City {The eternal New Jerusalem}, which are described in this book!"
These types also think they are God of your life here on flat earth and you better do what he says!
because I was doing laundry late at night instead of sleeping . It was the night before the sabbath so I was preparing and getting work done so I could relax with the Lord in his word. This person accused me of being a "child of the night". 
