The actual context to what Moses writes in Genesis 1:28 thru 30 on the sixth day of CREATION. Richard P7744 takes the context of this Moses writing to read that all the animals in verse 30 are now food to eat? Or is the context of the verses actually saying that ONLY plant food was given for food to animals and humans on the sixth day?
Richard's (P7744) writes - 30. **ALL** the creatures that move on the ground--**EVERYTHING** that has the breath of life in it for food!"
Lets read in two different translations.
Genesis 1:28-30 (NIV)
28. God blessed them and said to them, “Be fruitful and increase in number; fill the earth and subdue it. Rule over the fish in the sea and the birds in the sky and over every living creature that moves on the ground.”
29. Then God said, “I give you every seed-bearing plant on the face of the whole earth and every tree that has fruit with seed in it. They will be yours for food.
30. And to all the beasts of the earth and all the birds in the sky and all the creatures that move along the ground—everything that has the breath of life in it—I give every green plant for food.” And it was so.
Genesis 1:28-30 (KJV)
28. And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.
29. And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat.
30. And to every beast of the earth, and to every fowl of the air, and to every thing that creepeth upon the earth, wherein there is life, I have given every green herb for meat: and it was so.
Richard P7744 also states below in numerous other threads.
Quote - "No matter which translation you use Genesis 1:30 absolutely states that all the birds, animals, fish and green plants are all food for you." end quote.
Is this true in the two translations I gave to start this thread?
Um. No. they did not . They ate plants as we both have shown Richard the Prideful.
So I/we need to address his statement that Peter's declaration was a two fold message!
Did God show Peter a vision of unclean foods on a sheet and tell him to kill and eat ...? Yes, but is that what God actually revealed to him ? No. Peter makes it clear that God showed him it was about the Gentiles being clean.
So can we find any other verses that would show that Peter was eating unclean foods after.? Or anyone for that matter? God is not the author of confusion. And such an abomination he would address if changed and make it crystal clear, no?
Acts 10
28 And he said unto them, Ye know how that it is an unlawful thing for a man that is a Jew to keep company, or come unto one of another nation; but God hath shewed me that I should not call any man common or unclean.
The sheet with the animals had four corners in Peter's vision.
And Peter just stated in the verse above it was about the Gentiles.
Here are some parallel passages:
Isaiah 11:12 And he shall set up an ensign for the nations, and shall assemble the outcasts of Israel, and gather together the dispersed of Judah from the FOUR CORNERS of the earth.
Matthew 24:31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.
Ezekiel 7:2 Also, thou son of man, thus saith the Lord God unto the land of Israel; An end, the end is come upon the four corners of the land.
Revelation 7:1 And after these things I saw four angels standing on the four corners of the earth, holding the four winds of the earth, that the wind should not blow on the earth, nor on the sea, nor on any tree.
KJVonly and Teddyhugger: You both disagree with Mark 7:18-23 where **JESUS MADE ALL FOODS CLEAN** and Jesus commanded us to make disciples of all nations teaching them to **OBEY EVERYTHING I HAVE COMMDED** in Matthew 28:18-20!! And so you both disagree with these commands of our great God and Savior Jesus Christ. No matter which translation you use Genesis 1:30 absolutely states that all the birds, animals, fish and green plants are all food for you.
Teddyhugger is famous for his **FLAT EARTH** beliefs which is also the main belief for the Society for the **BRAIN DEAD**. Teddy hugger is also famous for never having met a Scripture that he could interpret correctly; now claims that in the fist 1600 years after Adam until the flood everyone was a vegetarian even though God rejected Cain's vegetarian offering and accepted Abel's offering of **FAT PORTIONS FROM SOME OF THE FIRSTBORN FROM HIS FLOCK** as per Genesis 4:1-5!!
Colossians 2:16,17: Therefore do not let anyone judge you by what you **EAT** or drink, or with regard to a religious festival, a New Moon celebration or a **SABBATH DAY**. These are a *SHADOW* of the things that were to come, the reality, however, is found in Christ!!!
Mark 7:18-23: Jesus says, "Don't you see that nothing that enters a man from the outside can make him unclean? For it doesn't go into his heart but into his stomach, and then out of his body!" By saying this Jesus declared **ALL FOODS CLEAN**!! He went on "What comes out of a man is what makes him unclean. For from within , out of men's hearts, come evil thoughts, sexual immorality, theft, murder, adultery, greed, malice, deceit, lewdness, envy, slander, arrogance and folly. All these evils come from inside and make a man unclean!"
I Timothy 4:1-5: The Spirit clearly says that in later times some will abandon the faith and follow deceiving spirits and things taught by demons. Such teachings come through **HYPOCRITICAL LIARS**, whose consciences have been seared as with a hot iron. They forbid people to marry and order them **TO ABSTAIN FROM CERTAIN FOODS**, which God created to be received with thanksgiving by those who believe and know the truth. For everything God created is good, and **NOTHING IS TO BE REJECTED** if it is received with thanksgiving, because it is consecrated by the word of God and prayer!!
I Corinthians 10:25: Eat **ANYTHING** sold in the meat market without raising questions of conscience, for, "The earth is the Lord's, and everything in it!"
Lobster Tail, Shrimp and Ham are now yum yum yummy and are so good for your tummy!!
Actually KJVonly you have apparently forgotten that the forbidding to eat certain animals birds and fish was strictly in the OT Covenant for Jews. According to Noah's Covenant and Adam's Covenant God allowed people to eat everything with the breath of life in it!!!!!
God's First Covenant with Adam:
Genesis 1:29,30: Then God said, "give you every seed-bearing plant on the face of the whole earth and every tree that has fruit with seed in it They will be yours for food. And to **ALL THE BEASTS OF THE EARTH** and **ALL** the birds of the air and **ALL** the creatures that move on the ground--**EVERYTHING** that has the breath of life in it and I give every green plant for food!"
God's Second Covenant with Noah:
Genesis 9:1-3: Then God blessed Noah and his sons, saying to them, "Be fruitful and increase in number and fill the earth. The fear and dread of you will fall upon all the beasts of the earth and all the birds of the air, upon every creature that moves along the ground, and upon all the fish of the sea, they are given to your hands. **EVERYTHING** that lives and moves will be **FOOD FOR YOU**!!
Galatians 3:23-25: "Before faith came, we were held prisoners by the law, locked up until faith should be revealed. So the law was put in charge to lead us to Christ that we might be justified by faith. Now that faith has come, *WE* ARE NO LONGER UNDER THE SUPERVISION OF THE LAW!!" {Zech disagrees with these inspired words of God!! since he believe we are still under the supervision of OT Law!}
I Corinthians 9:20,21: Paul said, "To the Jews I became like a Jew, to win the Jews. To those under the law I became like one under the law though **I MYSELF AM NOT UNDER THE LAW**, so as to win those under the law. To those not having the law I became like one not having the law though I am not free from God's law but **AM UNDER CHRIST'S LAW!!"
Peter's vision from God about making unclean foods clean in Acts 10:11-15 and Acts 11:5-9 is shown to have a second application since God was also showing that he made the unclean Gentiles clean.
Acts 10:11-15: Peter became hungry and wanted something to eat, and while the meal was being prepared he fell into a trance. He saw heaven opened and something like a large sheet being let down to earth by its 4 corners. it contained all kinds of four footed animals, as well as reptiles and birds. Then a Voice told him "Get up Peter **KILL AND EAT**!" "Surely not Lord!" Peter replied , "I have never eaten anything impure or unclean {As per OT law} The Voice spoke to him a second time. Do not call anything impure **THAT GOD HAS MADE CLEAN**!" For God the Father who cannot lie had Jesus declare that all **FOODS ARE NOW CLEAN** in Mark 7:18-23!!
Mark 7:18-23: Jesus says, "Don't you see that nothing that enters a man from the outside can make him unclean? For it doesn't go into his heart but into his stomach, and then out of his body!" By saying this Jesus declared **ALL FOODS CLEAN**!! He went on "What comes out of a man is what makes him unclean. For from within , out of men's hearts, come evil thoughts, sexual immorality, theft, murder, adultery, greed, malice, deceit, lewdness, envy, slander, arrogance and folly. All these evils come from inside and make a man unclean!"
And Timothy was inspired to write:
I Timothy 4:1-5: The Spirit clearly says that in later times some will abandon the faith and follow deceiving spirits and things taught by demons. Such teachings come through **HYPOCRITICAL LIARS**, whose consciences have been seared as with a hot iron. They forbid people to marry and order them **TO ABSTAIN FROM CERTAIN FOODS**, which God created to be received with thanksgiving by those who believe and know the truth. For everything God created is good, and **NOTHING IS TO BE REJECTED** if it is received with thanksgiving, because it is consecrated by the word of God and prayer!!
Galatians 3:23-25: "Before faith came, we were held prisoners by the law, locked up until faith should be revealed. So the law was put in charge to lead us to Christ that we might be justified by faith. Now that faith has come, *WE* ARE NO LONGER UNDER THE SUPERVISION OF THE LAW!!" {KJV and Teddyhugger disagree with these inspired words of God!! since theybelieve we are still under the supervision of OT Law as to unclean foods}
I Corinthians 9:20,21: Paul said, "To the Jews I became like a Jew, to win the Jews. To those under the law I became like one under the law though **I MYSELF AM NOT UNDER THE LAW**, so as to win those under the law. To those not having the law I became like one not having the law though I am not free from God's law but **AM UNDER CHRIST'S LAW!!"
Quote of Richard "the first 1600 years after Adam until the flood everyone was a vegetarian even though God rejected Cain's vegetarian offering and accepted Abel's offering of **FAT PORTIONS FROM SOME OF THE FIRSTBORN FROM HIS FLOCK** as per Genesis 4:1-5!!
Hey Einstein! Abels offering was accepted because animals bleed, you need BLOOD for a sacrifice! Lol!
Are you really this ignorant or do you think I will not challenge you on your false thinking and reasoning?
Cains offering was no good because plants don't bleed. Man do you make yourself out to be really disqualified to teach anything Biblical!
Acts 10:11-14: Peter became hungry and wanted something to eat, and while the meal was being prepared he fell into a trance. He saw heaven opened and something like a large sheet being let down to earth by its 4 corners. it contained all kinds of four footed animals. Then a Voice told him "Get up Peter **KILL AND EAT**!" "Surely not Lord!" Peter replied , "I have never eaten anything impure or unclean {like the animals listed as per OT law}."
15. The Voice spake to him a second time. What Yahweh hath cleansed, that call not thou common.
Did Peter EVER eat after being told to do so Richard?
Did Peter know what was clean and unclean when it came to Biblical food?
So what was the food comparison about in lesson to Peter?
The answer comes in verse 34 and 35! The common person that Peter was being shown was gentiles because it says "Peter opened his mouth, and said, Of the truth I perceive that Yahweh is no respecter of persons. 35. That's every nation that feareth Him and worketh righteousness, is accepted with Him!
35. That's every nation that feareth Him and worketh righteousness, is accepted with Him!
Did you catch the part about WORKING (WORKS) righteousness Richard???
Peter was a Jew and NEVER ate unclean animals! There was NEVER a change in Yahweh's OT law when it comes to his Biblical diet for Gentiles either in the NT! You can show NO change! The story of UNCLEAN food to Gentiles is clear in its message!
You are left with being found righteous or unrighteous at His return some day Richard. The choice is yours to repent and stop eating unclean creatures.
Peter's vision from God about making unclean foods clean in Acts 10:11-15 and Acts 11:5-9 is shown to have a second application since God was also showing that he made the unclean Gentiles clean.
Acts 10:11-15: Peter became hungry and wanted something to eat, and while the meal was being prepared he fell into a trance. He saw heaven opened and something like a large sheet being let down to earth by its 4 corners. it contained all kinds of four footed animals, as well as reptiles and birds. Then a Voice told him "Get up Peter **KILL AND EAT**!" "Surely not Lord!" Peter replied , "I have never eaten anything impure or unclean {As per OT law} The Voice spoke to him a second time. Do not call anything impure **THAT GOD HAS MADE CLEAN**!" For God the Father who cannot lie had Jesus declare that all **FOODS ARE NOW CLEAN** in Mark 7:18-23!!
Now in Mark 7:1-4 Jesus was talking about unwashed hands. However, as you can clearly see I Mark 7:18-23 below that Jesus has changed subjects and there is absolutely nothing that even remotely refers to unwashed hands!!
Mark 7:18-23: Jesus says, "Don't you see that nothing that enters a man from the outside can make him unclean? For it doesn't go into his heart but into his stomach, and then out of his body!" By saying this Jesus declared **ALL FOODS CLEAN**!! He went on "What comes out of a man is what makes him unclean. For from within , out of men's hearts, come evil thoughts, sexual immorality, theft, murder, adultery, greed, malice, deceit, lewdness, envy, slander, arrogance and folly. All these evils come from inside and make a man unclean!"
And Timothy was inspired to write:
I Timothy 4:1-5: The Spirit clearly says that in later times some {Like KJV & Teddyhugger} will abandon the faith and follow deceiving spirits and things taught by demons. Such teachings come through **HYPOCRITICAL LIARS**, whose consciences have been seared as with a hot iron. They {Like KJV and Teddyhugger} order them **TO ABSTAIN FROM CERTAIN FOODS**, which God created to be received with thanksgiving by those who believe and know the truth. For everything God created is good, and **NOTHING IS TO BE REJECTED** if it is received with thanksgiving, because it is consecrated by the word of God and prayer!!
Galatians 3:23-25: "Before faith came, we were held prisoners by the law, locked up until faith should be revealed. So the law was put in charge to lead us to Christ that we might be justified by faith. Now that faith has come, *WE* ARE NO LONGER UNDER THE SUPERVISION OF THE LAW!!" {KJV and Teddyhugger disagree with these inspired words of God!! since theybelieve we are still under the supervision of OT Law as to unclean foods}
I Corinthians 9:20,21: Paul said, "To the Jews I became like a Jew, to win the Jews. To those under the law I became like one under the law though **I MYSELF AM NOT UNDER THE LAW**, so as to win those under the law. To those not having the law I became like one not having the law though I am not free from God's law but **AM UNDER CHRIST'S LAW!!"
Matthew 28:18-20: Jesus says, "ALL AUTHORITY** in heaven and on earth has been given to **ME**! Therefore, go and make disciples of all nations... Teaching them to obey **EVERYTHING** I HAVE COMMANDED YOU** {Including Mark 7:18:23} And surely I am with you always, to the very end of the age!!"
Paul is paraphrasing what Jesus said: "Obey the laws of God. Don't steal. Don't lust. Don't covet. Don't be a drunkard - because you are justified." Paul gives justification as the very reason they should obey the law of God - because they had been justified. He says, "Choose life because you have been justified." Justification is given as the reason - indeed, the obligation - for voluntarily choosing life, for choosing not to sin.
1 Corinthians 7:19
Here the apostle Paul tells us that we are to keep the Ten Commandments under the New Covenant. It cannot be refuted. The Ten Commandments were part of the Old Covenant too. That part is not obsolete; we are still using it in the brand new model. The moral law is still in force and effect. To break the commandments is sin, while to do them is righteousness.
That includes all ten - not just nine. Remember Jesus' declaration that not one jot or tittle would pass from the law. If Jesus speaks the truth, how can people say that the fourth commandment is done away? They directly refute their Savior. It is really quite silly.
2 Corinthians 3:5-9
The subject here is not the doing away with laws but the change in administration of existing laws. Remember that Jesus said not one jot or tittle will pass from the law (Matthew 5:18). In Hebrews 8:10, where the context is the Covenant, the New Covenant is shown to have laws, which will be written in our hearts.
Paul is making a comparison, showing the superiority of the ministry's responsibility under the New Covenant to the priesthood's responsibility under the Old. He compares ink with spirit, stone with flesh, letter with spirit (or intent), and death with life.
Galatians 1:4
Much of the controversy involved in this letter has to do with Gnostic Judaism, which was not the system that God gave to Moses. Judaism was the national religion of the Jews during Christ's and Paul's time, but it had only a very loose basis on the law of the Old Covenant.
Paul refers to the sacrifice of Christ here as a reminder that He fulfilled the sacrificial law—in living a sinless life and then willingly laying it down, He fulfilled the requirements of every sacrificial ordinance, such that the "blood of bulls and goats" was no longer required in a physical sense. Fulfillment does not equal absolution, however; James 2:8 shows that when we "fulfill" the royal law according to Scripture, we are doing what is right, and there is no way to stretch this into saying that we each individually do away with the law. In Matthew 5:17, Christ shows that fulfilling is the opposite of destroying. Christ's fulfilling of the Law and the Prophets is to be an example for us to follow (Galatians 6:2; Colossians 1:25; II Thessalonians 1:11; James 2:8).
