3. And Yah said, Let there be light: and there was light.
4. And Yah saw the light, that it was good: and Yah divided the light from the darkness.
5. And Yah called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and (plus) the (that) morning were the first day.
Genesis 1:14-16 (KJV)
14. And Yah said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years:
15. And let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so.
16. And Yah made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also.
Looking at Genesis 1:3-5, notice that it only mentions a literal singular light! This is HUGE in importance for later.
Zechlup claims 1:3-5 is not talking about the obvious sun and its light when he states - "The Text doesn't say God made the sun on day one. While it is an admittedly common mistake to conflate "light" with "sun" it is not what the Text says." Lol! He goes on to state in his "educated" wisdom - "This is called "reading into the Text"." That is hilarious reasoning of the subject in question and really just a cop out in not answering WHAT the text is actually saying! Lol!
Lets look at the Strongs.
Sun - Hebrew "shemish" #8121, brilliant - Sun. DUH!
Light - Hebrew "ma'or" #3974, luminous body, luminary. Sun would be a luminary! Double DUH!!
ANY weak debater would OWN Zechlup Einstein with only a concordance! What is a matter with you Zechlup??? You fall off your horse and hit your head?
So friends, since Zechlup does not have a clue what is being stated in Genesis 1:3-5, can I get an actual reasonable discussion from someone else as to the literial "light" that is being described in those verses?
But FIRST we can actually learn a lot from an atheist! This challenge from the atheist will actually answer (teach us) what is stated in Genesis 1:3-5 and to that of Genesis 1:14-16! So lets ANSWER the challenge by the atheists, I want to see how someone here on this forum would respond to an atheist, like I did. Remember we are to be witnesses to the lost! Question from atheist below.
"Atheists LOVE to make fun of Christians when they say "you worship a silly G_d that makes a sun on day one and another on day four" they proudly state in a puffed up chest, there is only one sun!"
Can I get an answer to it? Because Zechlup here does not have one, he dont know? Ha! He is a strawman theologian. Lol!
Ooooh and this is of utmost importance to this thread discussion!
There is also a simple test that can be done with a "Thermometer Digital Laser Surface Temperature Gun" and I would like to see what others get for results from the experiment like I did!
The lad Zechlup in his tipical down talk to people and his "expertise" on the Surface Temperature Gun says I misinterpret the obvious data read out on the gun! Lol!
Quote of Zechlup - "you misinterpret the results of the laser experiment because you apparently don't understand about radiated heat."
This is hilarious! Zechlup is clueless in his understanding of the results of a laser experiment because he does NOT understand the measurement of a "Thermometer Laser Surface Temperature Gun" of "radiated heat" to that of LACK OF of measurable heat because the object being measured is colder! LMBO!
Zechlup "vast practical knowledge" only comes from books, so he is common sense ignorant of what takes place in an actual field experiment! Zechlup only goes by what his jesuit illuminati freemasons taught (educated) him in their controlled schools!
So what he does now, is parrot what he was taught! High Hitler! Lol!
Example of his jesuit illuminati freemasons education here. Quote - "The reflected light model works perfectly." Lol! Zechlup ASSUMES the moon reflects "light" from the sun! Simple test below.
Solution to the statement above from Zechlup is a - "Thermometer Digital Laser Surface Temperature Gun" and you either need to own one or borrow one? If so then there is are still waning somewhat full moons tonight and will be several yet to some degree for nights coming if its clear where your at in your location. Do the test when moon is out and shining on concrete or some kind of solid surface where there is partial shade of the moon light like a tree or building shade. Check temp in direct moon light and then in the shade and tell us what the difference in temp is between the two different locations.
Grace, your a truckdriver. Do you own one of these Thermo Surface Temperature Guns or maybe know of a mechanic (like me) that you can borrow one from? Perhaps do this test with him present, at night and he will learn something also!
Hmmm ...Offhand response..I want to say Jesus is the light...he was there at creation and made every thing..and he is called light of the world...and is our spiritual light.
The Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters...then the light came..and was divided from darkness.
This will take more critical thinking and searching of the scriptures..
In Genesis 1:3 it says, “And God said let there be light and there was light. ” It was day 1. In Genesis 1:16 it says, “And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also.” It was day 4. So if God didn’t create the Sun and Moon until day 4, what was the light He created on day 1? Also, evenings and morning are determined by the rising and setting of the sun are they not? But if the sun was not created until the fourth day then what determined the days before that?
The answer lies in the comparison of the Hebrew language in Genesis 1:3 with that of Genesis 1:16. In the first instance the word for light is "owr" which means light. In the second it’s "mowr" which is a light repository, literally a candle stick or chandelier. So God created the light on day 1 and separated it from the darkness, permitting the distinction between day and night. Then He gathered the light into one location (the Sun) on day 4, where it’s been ever since. Remember, the Moon only reflects light from the Sun, it doesn’t generate any light itself.
Evenings and mornings are not really created by the rising and setting of the Sun. They’re created by the rotation of the Earth on it’s axis, any given area spinning into and out of the path of the light every 24 hours.
I'm no expert in Hebrew. I've studied Hebrew and know enough to know Hebrew is a poor language; meaning it has few words. Therefore the same word in Hebrew can mean many words in English. Different meanings in Hebrew for the same word are obtained with prefix, suffix and context. So if someone starts explaining a Hebrew word or sentence using Strong's concordance; take what they say with a grain of salt.
"What may be known of God is manifest in them for God has shown it to them. For since the creation of the world his invisible attributes are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead, so that they are without excuse (Romans 1:19,20).
God is the light giver as is the sun.
Jesus reflects the light of God as the moon reflects the light of the sun.
"God,.....has in these last days spoken to us by His Son,.....who being the brightness of His glory and the express image of His person
"Hmmm ...Offhand response..I want to say Jesus is the light...he was there at creation and made every thing..and he is called light of the world...and is our spiritual light."
"The Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters...then the light came..and was divided from darkness."
End quote.
Well certainly is Yah'shua the light of this flat earth we live on and He IS our spiritual light! Remember though that originally He was Yahweh's WORD when Yahweh moved about by His set apart Holy Spirit on the face of the deep waters and spoke by His WORD things into existence of this surface plane of earth and the heaven above, yet inside the firmament.
Now here is something to think about, did Yahweh actually Create His WORD as a literial "light" on the first day of Creation week as we know it? Because that is what you seem to imply when you speak of the "light" Created on day one. Hmmmm...
So how did time start? When Yahweh made a "sun" and caused it to move in motion above the flat plane of the earth? Time began as we know it when the "sun" was made (then lighted) in day one and put in motion. Correct?
Wow1 Now Zecharyah has become a secular Satanic scientist who contradicts Genesis!?? Our Almighty God can create anything He wants and he can create light without the sun.
In Genesis 1:3 it says, “And God said let there be light and there was light. ” It was day 1. In Genesis 1:16 it says, “And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also.” It was day 4. So if God didn’t create the Sun and Moon until day 4, what was the light He created on day 1? Also, evenings and morning are determined by the rising and setting of the sun are they not? But if the sun was not created until the fourth day then what determined the days before that?
The answer lies in the comparison of the Hebrew language in Genesis 1:3 with that of Genesis 1:16. In the first instance the word for light is "owr" which means light. In the second it’s "mowr" which is a light repository, literally a candle stick or chandelier. So God created the light on day 1 and separated it from the darkness, permitting the distinction between day and night. Then He gathered the light into one location (the Sun) on day 4, where it’s been ever since. Remember, the Moon only reflects light from the Sun, it doesn’t generate any light itself.
Evenings and mornings are not really created by the rising and setting of the Sun. They’re created by the rotation of the Earth on it’s axis, any given area spinning into and out of the path of the light every 24 hours.
Nothing in the Big Bang theory contradicts Divine Creation or Intelligent Design.
Just stick to your cultish 4th century closed minded fundamentalist dogma. But if you want to run with the mature dogs, you're going to have to leave the porch.
Oh my gosh people! God divided the light from the darkness - think black hole (total darkness without form and void) let there be light - black hole explodes releasing light and energy. Everything is now divided by the event horizon; light, energy and matter escapes on one side. The darkness on the other as it collapses back into a black hole - 1st day!
