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People can't handle the brutal truth of Jesus.
Posted : 13 Aug, 2019 10:04 PM

Because I am brutally honest myself (Maybe I am a modern day Deborah type-she was called little bee because her word's stung. She also went into battle with Barak and their enemy was destroyed-see the book of Judges) I appreciate the brutal truth found in the Lord's Holy Word.

But here is the thing...

Most people can't handle the truth!

I have noticed some people embrace another Jesus and this Jesus is attached to false gospels.I used to go to "church" and rarely pick up my bible...until I quit "church" and started feeding off his Word. It is important that you study the scriptures and he will be revealed to you through his Word. Jesus wants a relationship , not a religion.

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Posted : 13 Aug, 2019 10:11 PM

The truth is people would rather follow a set of rules and ask for forgiveness when they break a rule rather than actually work at having a relationship with God.



You can follow all the rules in a marriage but if you don't work on having relationship that marriage is doomed.

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Posted : 13 Aug, 2019 10:18 PM

Yes, but marriage is a picture of Jesus and his church bride. There is forgiveness in a marriage and lots of grace!!

You can learn alot about your relationship with Jesus through a marriage IMHO.

There is more than just L O V E, although that is good.

So is that what you meant by working, is practicing forgiveness and grace out of love?

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Posted : 14 Aug, 2019 05:20 AM

The Preterists like KJVonly believe that every prophecy in the Mount of Olives prophecies in Matthew 24 and 25, Mark 13 an Luke 21 and every prophecy in Revelation were totally completed in AD 70??? The Preterists also believe that that all the words in the New Testament are inspired by God.



Let us quote one of the prophecies in in Matthew 25 and Revelation 21:1-5 that could not have happened in ad 70!!



Matthew 25:31-34,41,46: Jesus prophesied, "When the Son of Man comes in His glory, and all the angels with Him, He will sit on His glorious throne. All the nations will be gathered before Him, an He will separate the people one from another as a shepherd separates his sheep from the goats. He will put the sheep on His right and the goats on His left. **THEN** the King will say to those on his right. Come, you are blessed by My Father ; take your inhreritance , the Kingdom prepared for you since the creation of the world... "Then He will say to those on His left, 'Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared fror the Devil and his angels....**THEN** they will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life!"



**WE**{*ALL BORN AGAIN SAINTS*} ARE ALL WAITING FOR THE NEW EARTH, THE NEW HEAVENS AND THE HEAVENLY NEW JERUSALEM!!



Revelation 21:1-5: Then I saw a **NEW HEAVEN** and a **NEW EARTH**, for the {present} first heaven and first earth **HAD PASSED AWAY**, and there was no longer any sea. I saw the Holy City, the **NEW JERUSALEM**, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared as a bride beautifully dressed for her husband. And I heard a loud voice from the throne saying, "Now the dwelling of God is with men, and He will live with them. They will be His people, and God Himself will be with them. They will be His people, and God Himself will be with them and be their God. He will wipe every tear from their eyes, There will be no more death or mourning or crying or pain, for the old order of things has passed away." He who was seated on the throne said, "I am making **EVERYTHING NEW**!" Then He said, "Write this down, for these words are TRUSTWORTHY and TRUE!"



**THIS IS THE MAIN HOPE OF ALL BORN AGAIN SAINTS**



There are about 20 prophecies in the New Testament that absolutely could not have happened in AD 70 so apparently the Preterists are **FALSE PROPHETS OF SATAN**!!

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Posted : 14 Aug, 2019 12:49 PM

KJVonly quotes about her Roman Catholic backgrounf:



I married a Catholic and we raised our kids in that faith.

I taught my kids the doctrine

My mother was anti- Catholic for a while then started going to mass and to school on Friday with the kids and meet them for mass in the church on that day.

No, I don't want a universal church doctrine in my life. The Catholic Pope's have been trying to retrieve the people that broke with the "Mother church" for quite some time now.

In the Pope's encyclical letter called Laudato Si, in May 2015, he was trying to get a mandatory Sunday rest day observance for families.

**ALL FOR UNITY**"



Wikipedia quote:



Historically, preterists and non-preterists have generally agreed that the Roman Catholic Jesuit Luis de Alcasar (1554–1613) wrote the first systematic preterist exposition of prophecy. Historically, the only believers in Preterism are Roman Catholics or those Protestsnts who would like to merge with the extremely evil Roman Catholic Church; with its emphasis on an earthly kingdom headed by the Pope rather than a Heavenly Kingdom headed by the Father and Jesus Christ.



**WE** {Born again saints} ARE ALL WAITING FOR THE NEW EARTH, THE NEW HEAVENS AND THE HEAVENLY NEW JERUSALEM!!



Revelation 21:1-5: Then I saw a **NEW HEAVEN** and a NEW EARTH, for the {present} first heaven and first earth had **PASSED AWAY**, and there was no longer any sea. I saw the Holy City, the **NEW JERUSALEM**, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared as a bride beautifully dressed for her husband. And I heard a loud voice from the throne saying, "Now the dwelling of God is with men, and He will live with them. They will be His people, and God Himself will be with them. They will be His people, and God Himself will be with them and be their God. He will wipe every tear from their eyes, There will be **NO MORE DEATH** or mourning or crying or pain, for the old order of things has passed away." He who was seated on the throne said, "I am making **EVERYTHING NEW**!" Then He said, "Write this down, for these words are TRUSTWORTHY and TRUE!"



Revelation 22:1-5: Then the angel showed me the river of the Water of Life, as clear as crystal, flowing from the throne of God and the Lamb {Jesus} down the middle of the great street of the City. On each side of the river stood the Tree of Life, bearing 12 crops of fruit, yielding its fruit every month... The throne of God {The Father} and of the **LAMB** {Jesus} will be in the City, and His servants will serve Him. They will see His face and His name will be on their foreheads. There will be no more night!! They will not need the light of the lamp or the light of the sun, for the Lord God will give them light. And they will reign **FOR EVER AND EVER**. The angel said to me, “These words are TRUSTWORTHY and TRUE!!”



Revelation 3:21: Jesus says, To him who overcomes, I will give the right to sit with Me on My throne!!"



Revelation 2:17: Jesus says, To him who overcomes I will give a white stone with a new name written on it, known only to him who receives it!"

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Posted : 14 Aug, 2019 01:24 PM

I am not Catholic and never converted. I was the odd one out in my husbands family because they were all Catholic!

You read a Catholic new age bible .

I am still waiting on you to confess your sins to me like your version says!

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Posted : 14 Aug, 2019 02:53 PM

**Why do only Roman Catholics believe this Preterist Satanic earthly kingdom garbage??



The Preterists like KJVonly believe that every prophecy in the Mount of Olives prophecies in Matthew 24 and 25, Mark 13 an Luke 21 and every prophecy in Revelation were totally completed in AD 70??? The Preterists also believe that that all the words in the New Testament are inspired by God.



Let us quote one of the prophecies in in Matthew 25 and Revelation 21:1-5 that could not have happened in ad 70!!



Matthew 25:31-34,41,46: Jesus prophesied, "When the Son of Man comes in His glory, and all the angels with Him, He will sit on His glorious throne. All the nations will be gathered before Him, an He will separate the people one from another as a shepherd separates his sheep from the goats. He will put the sheep on His right and the goats on His left. **THEN** the King will say to those on his right. Come, you are blessed by My Father ; take your inhreritance , the Kingdom prepared for you since the creation of the world... "Then He will say to those on His left, 'Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared fror the Devil and his angels....**THEN** they will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life!"



**WE**{*ALL BORN AGAIN SAINTS*} ARE ALL WAITING FOR THE NEW EARTH, THE NEW HEAVENS AND THE HEAVENLY NEW JERUSALEM!!



Revelation 21:1-5: Then I saw a **NEW HEAVEN** and a **NEW EARTH**, for the {present} first heaven and first earth **HAD PASSED AWAY**, and there was no longer any sea. I saw the Holy City, the **NEW JERUSALEM**, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared as a bride beautifully dressed for her husband. And I heard a loud voice from the throne saying, "Now the dwelling of God is with men, and He will live with them. They will be His people, and God Himself will be with them. They will be His people, and God Himself will be with them and be their God. He will wipe every tear from their eyes, There will be no more death or mourning or crying or pain, for the old order of things has passed away." He who was seated on the throne said, "I am making **EVERYTHING NEW**!" Then He said, "Write this down, for these words are TRUSTWORTHY and TRUE!"



**THIS IS THE MAIN HOPE OF ALL BORN AGAIN SAINTS**



There are about 20 prophecies in the New Testament that absolutely could not have happened in AD 70 so apparently the Preterists are **FALSE PROPHETS OF SATAN**!!

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Posted : 14 Aug, 2019 03:13 PM

I feel sorry for you Parrot. You call everyone satanic if they don't believe EXACTLY like you!

You don't follow the words of your own bible that you claim is the Holy Word of God. I will not answer nor explain anything to you on here. I am done. You don't care to at least share or keep and open mind . Yours is closed tighter than Fort Knox!

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Posted : 14 Aug, 2019 03:47 PM

**Why do only Roman Catholics believe this Preterist Satanic earthly kingdom garbage??



The Preterists like KJVonly believe that every prophecy in the Mount of Olives prophecies in Matthew 24 and 25, Mark 13 an Luke 21 and every prophecy in Revelation were totally completed in AD 70???



Let us quote one of the prophecies in in Matthew 25 and Revelation 21:1-5 that could not have happened in ad 70!!



Matthew 25:31-34,41,46: Jesus prophesied, "When the Son of Man comes in His glory, and all the angels with Him, He will sit on His glorious throne. All the nations will be gathered before Him, an He will separate the people one from another as a shepherd separates his sheep from the goats. He will put the sheep on His right and the goats on His left. **THEN** the King will say to those on his right. Come, you are blessed by My Father ; take your inhreritance , the Kingdom prepared for you since the creation of the world... "Then He will say to those on His left, 'Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared fror the Devil and his angels....**THEN** they will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life!"



**WE**{*ALL BORN AGAIN SAINTS*} ARE ALL WAITING FOR THE NEW EARTH, THE NEW HEAVENS AND THE HEAVENLY NEW JERUSALEM!!



Revelation 21:1-5: Then I saw a **NEW HEAVEN** and a **NEW EARTH**, for the {present} first heaven and first earth **HAD PASSED AWAY**, and there was no longer any sea. I saw the Holy City, the **NEW JERUSALEM**, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared as a bride beautifully dressed for her husband. And I heard a loud voice from the throne saying, "Now the dwelling of God is with men, and He will live with them. They will be His people, and God Himself will be with them. They will be His people, and God Himself will be with them and be their God. He will wipe every tear from their eyes, There will be no more death or mourning or crying or pain, for the old order of things has passed away." He who was seated on the throne said, "I am making **EVERYTHING NEW**!" Then He said, "Write this down, for these words are TRUSTWORTHY and TRUE!"



**THIS IS THE MAIN HOPE OF ALL BORN AGAIN SAINTS**



According to Revelation 22:18-19 it is an unpardonable sin to **TAKE WORDS AWAY** from the prophecies in Revelation!!







There are about 20 prophecies in the New Testament that absolutely could not have happened in AD 70 so apparently the Preterists are **FALSE PROPHETS OF SATAN**!!

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Posted : 14 Aug, 2019 10:00 PM

The mark of the beast is Satan's counterfeit law that goes against the law of God. We also saw that the Roman Catholic Church (the Antichrist system) boasted about changing the Sabbath Day of God from the seventh day to the first. Could this be the mark of the beast? Well the Papal church did say it was her "mark" of authority to change God's Law.



"Of course the change (from Sabbath to Sunday) was her act ..... and the act is a MARK of her ecclesiastical power and authority in religious matters." (signed by H.F.Thomas, Chancellor for Cardinal Gibbons, in a letter dated Nov. 11, 1895)



"Sunday is our MARK of authority ... the church is above the Bible, and this transference of Sabbath observance is proof of that fact." (Catholic record of London, Ontario, Sept. 1, 1923)



There is your Mark of the beast Parrot. Sun worship day.



Interesting....aren't you a Lutheran?



The doctrine of consubstantiation is often held in contrast to the doctrine of transubstantiation. While some Lutherans use the term "consubstantiation" to describe their doctrine, many reject it as not accurately reflecting the eucharistic doctrine of Martin Luther, the sacramental union. They reject the concept of consubstantiation because it replaces what they believe to be the biblical doctrine with a philosophical construct, denotes a mixing of substances (bread and wine with body and blood), and denotes a "gross, Capernaitic, carnal" presence of the body and blood of Christ



Consubstantiation is a Christian theological doctrine that (like transubstantiation) describes the real presence in the Eucharist. It holds that during the sacrament, the substance of the body and blood of Christ are present alongside the substance of the bread and wine, which remain present. It was part of the doctrines of Lollardy and considered a heresy by the Roman Catholic Church.



Hmmm ...guess they didn't like the competition...Only they had power over the Host.

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Posted : 15 Aug, 2019 07:04 AM

The Preterists like KJVonly believe that every prophecy in the Mount of Olives prophecies in Matthew 24 and 25, Mark 13 an Luke 21 and every prophecy in Revelation were totally completed in AD 70??? Preterist ministers do not believe in heaven as a place. He believed that heaven was only a spiritual existence, NOT a literal place. I asked him about the streets of gold and the gates of pearl, he didn't believe they were literal. I asked him about the mansions which Jesus spoke of in John 14:1-2, he denied those also as being physical homes. Preterists also believe the present earth will never be destroyed and that God's Kingdom is only in this present earth????



Let us quote some of the prophecies in in Matthew 25 and Revelation 21:1-5 that could not have happened in ad 70!!



Daniel 12::1-2: There will be a time of distress such as not happened from the beginning of nations until then {The 42-month Great Tribulation}. But at that time your people--everyone whose name is found in the {LAMB'S} Book-- will be delivered. Multitudes who sleep in the dust of the earth will awake; some everlasting life, others to shame and everlasting contempt!!



Matthew 25:31-34,41,46: Jesus prophesied, "When the Son of Man comes in His glory, and all the angels with Him, He will sit on His glorious throne. All the nations will be gathered before Him, an He will separate the people one from another as a shepherd separates his sheep from the goats. He will put the sheep on His right and the goats on His left. **THEN** the King will say to those on his right. Come, you are blessed by My Father ; take your inhreritance , the Kingdom prepared for you since the creation of the world... "Then He will say to those on His left, 'Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared fror the Devil and his angels....**THEN** they will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life!"



**WE**{*ALL BORN AGAIN SAINTS*} ARE ALL WAITING FOR THE NEW EARTH, THE NEW HEAVENS AND THE HEAVENLY NEW JERUSALEM!!



Revelation 21:1-5: Then I saw a **NEW HEAVEN** and a **NEW EARTH**, for the {present} first heaven and first earth **HAD PASSED AWAY**, and there was no longer any sea. I saw the Holy City, the **NEW JERUSALEM**, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared as a bride beautifully dressed for her husband. And I heard a loud voice from the throne saying, "Now the dwelling of God is with men, and He will live with them. They will be His people, and God Himself will be with them. They will be His people, and God Himself will be with them and be their God. He will wipe every tear from their eyes, There will be no more death or mourning or crying or pain, for the old order of things has passed away." He who was seated on the throne said, "I am making **EVERYTHING NEW**!" Then He said, "Write this down, for these words are TRUSTWORTHY and TRUE!"



**THIS IS THE MAIN HOPE OF ALL BORN AGAIN SAINTS**



John 18:36: Jesus says, "MY KINGDOM IS NOT OF THIS WORLD. If it were, My servants would fight to prevent My arrest by the Jewish lleaders. But **MY KINGDOM IS FROM ANOTHER PLACE!!"



According to Revelation 22:18,19 it is an unpardonable sin to **TAKE WORDS AWAY ** from the prophecies in Revelation!!



There are about 20 prophecies in the New Testament that absolutely could not have happened in AD 70 so apparently the Preterists are **FALSE PROPHETS**!!



Matthew 22:30: Jesus says, "At the Resurrection people will neither marry or be given in marriage {Have sexual relations or children}, they will be **LIKE** the angels in heaven,

If the resurrection was in AD 70 why were people still marrying and having children after AD 70??



John 14:23: Jesus says, :My Father's house has many rooms; if that were not so, would I have told you that I am going there to prepare a place for you, I wwill come back and take you to to be with me that you also may be with Me that you also may be where I am!"



"I Corinthians 15:20-24: But Christ has indeed been raised from the dead, the **FIRSTFRUITS of those who have fallen asleep. For since death came through a man, the Resurrection from the dead comes also through a Man. For as in Adam all die, so in Christ **ALL WILL BE MADE ALIVE**. But each in turn: Christ the Firstfruits, THEN, WHEN HE COMES, **THOSE WHO BELONG TO HIM**. Then the **END** will come, when He hands over the Kingdom to God the Father!

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