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John 14 verses 21 - 24
Posted : 13 Aug, 2019 01:46 PM

John 14 verses 21-24

21"He who has My commandments and keeps them is the one who loves Me; and he who loves Me will be loved by My Father, and I will love him and will disclose Myself to him." 22Judas (not Iscariot) said to Him, "Lord, what then has happened that You are going to disclose Yourself to us and not to the world?" 23Jesus answered and said to him, "If anyone loves Me, he will keep My word; and My Father will love him, and We will come to him and make Our abode with him. 24"He who does not love Me does not keep My words; and the word which you hear is not Mine, but the Father's who sent Me.

If, a person will be a student of the Word, Led by the Holy Spirit, they will know that this section of Scripture is not about obeying the Word of GOD Almighty.

This is talking about KEEPING the Word of GOD Almighty just as it had been told to those which had written the Word.

IF you agape me, KEEP my word in tact, or just as it is, Do not change it.There are people on this chat which do not agape Messiah ast they continually change His Word.

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John 14 verses 21 - 24
Posted : 13 Aug, 2019 02:52 PM

John 14:23,24: Jesus says, Anyone who loves Me **WILL OBEY MY TEACHING**. My Father will love them, and We will come to them and make Our home with them. Anyone who does not love Me will not obey My teaching!"



John 16:12-14 Jesus says, "I have much more to say to you, more than you can now bear. But when he, the spirit of Truth comes, he will guide you into all the Truth. He will not speak on his own; he will speak only what he hears, and he will tell you what is yet to come. He will glorify Me because it is from Me that he will receive what he will make known to you!"



And holy spirit inspired the 8 writers of the 27 books of the New Testament to write everything Jesus commanded him to write!!



The New Covenant of Jesus **ELIMINATED** about 550 of the 613 OT laws and **ADDED** about 400 New Testament laws which God's chosen saints love to follow with the hope of countless eternal heavenly rewards for faithful and loving service and not to earn their salvation which was completely paid for by the blood atonement of our great God and Savior, Jesus Christ!!



Matthew 28:18-20: Jesus says, "**ALL AUTHORITY** in heaven and on earth has been given to **ME**. Therefore go and make disciples of all nations... Teaching them to **OBEY EVERYTHING I HAVE COMMANDED YOU**. And surely I am with you always!!"



I Corinthians 9:21: I am under **CHRIST'S LAW**!!



Galatians 6:2: Fulfill the **LAW OF CHRIST**!!



Galatians 3:23-25: "Before faith came, we were held prisoners by the {**OT**} law, locked up until faith should be revealed. So the law was put in charge to lead us to Christ that we might be justified by faith. Now that faith has come, *WE* ARE NO LONGER UNDER THE SUPERVISION OF THE {**OT**} LAW!!"



*WE* ARE NO LONGER UNDER THE SUPERVISION OF THE LAW!! Galatians 3:25!



Galatians 2:14-16: Paul said, When I saw that they were not acting in line with the truth of the gospel, I said to Peter in front of them all, "You are a Jew, yet you live like a Gentile and not like a Jew. How is it, then that you force Gentiles to follow Jewish customs? We who are Jews by birth and not 'Gentile sinners' know that a man is NOT justified by observing the law, but by faith in Jesus Christ. So we, too, have put our faith in Christ Jesus that we may be justified by faith in Christ and not by observing the law, because by observing the law no one will be justified.!"



Galatians 2:20,21: The life I live in the body, I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave Himself for me. I do not set aside the grace of God, for if righteousness could be gained through the {OT} law, Christ died for nothing!"



Galatians 3:10-13: "All who rely on observing the law are under a curse, for it is written "Cursed is everyone who does not continue to do everything written in the Book of the Law." Clearly **NO ONE IS JUSTIFIED BEFORE GOD BY THE {OT} LAW*, because, "The righteous will live by faith." The law is not based on faith; on the contrary, "The man who does these things will live by them." Christ redeemed us from the curse of the law by becoming a curse for us!



Galatians 3:23-25: "Before faith came, we were held prisoners by the law, locked up until faith should be revealed. So the law was put in charge to lead us to Christ that we might be justified by faith. Now that faith has come, *WE* ARE NO LONGER UNDER THE SUPERVISION OF THE {OT} LAW!!"



Hebrews 7:18,19: The former regulation is SET ASIDE because it was weak and useless; for the law made nothing perfect, and a **BETTER HOPE** is introduced, by which we draw near to God.!



Hebrews 8:8,9,13: "The time is coming." says the Lord, "when I will make a New Covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah".... By calling this Covenant "NEW", He has made the first one **OBSOLETE**; and what is OBSOLETE and aging will soon disappear."



Hebrews 8:6: But the ministry Jesus has received is as superior to theirs as the covenant of which He is Mediator is **SUPERIOR TO THE OLD ONE**, and it is founded on better promises.



Colossians 2:16,17: Therefore do not let anyone judge you by what you **EAT** or drink, or with regard to a religious festival, a New Moon celebration or a Sabbath day. These are a *SHADOW* of the things that were to come, the reality, however, is found in Christ!!!



Ephesians 1:13: You also were included in Christ **WHEN** you heard the **WORD** of Truth, the gospel of your salvation.



Ephesians 2:17: Take the sword of the Spirit, which is the **WORD OF GOD**!



Colossians 1:25: I have become its servant by the commission God gave to me to present to you the **WORD OF GOD IN ALL ITS FULLNESS**!



Colossians 3:16: Let the **WORD OF CHRIST** dwell in you richly as you teach and admonish one another with all wisdom!



2 Timothy 3:15,16: 4:1,2: You have known the **HOLY SCRIPTURES**, which are able to make you wise for salvation through faith in Christ Jesus. **ALL SCRIPTURE IS GOD-BREATHED** and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, so that the man of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work. In the presence of God and of Christ Jesus, who will judge the living and the dead, and in view of His appearing and His kingdom, I give you this charge: **PREACH THE WORD**!! {**WHICH IS THE ENTIRE NEW COVENANT AND NEW TESTAMENT**!!} Be prepared in season and out of season; correct, rebuke and encourage--with great patience and careful instruction. For the time will come when people {Like Zecharyah and GNWS} will not put up with sound doctrine!

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John 14 verses 21 - 24
Posted : 13 Aug, 2019 03:30 PM

This must have been an older copy and paste of Parrots because I was recently added to his list at the bottom.

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Posted : 13 Aug, 2019 05:06 PM

Prophetic7744 writes:

"And holy spirit inspired the 8 writers of the 27 books of the New Testament to write everything Jesus commanded him to write!!"



Hmmm......🤔

Out of the 27 Books; other than Revelation I can't think of anywhere "Jesus commanded him to write".



It is interesting to me how people make stuff up in their own mind then claim it is Scripture. Beware of such people.

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Posted : 13 Aug, 2019 06:14 PM

KJVONLY CLAIMS THAT JESUS DID NOT TELL THE HOLY SPIRIT WHAT TO INSPIRE THE 8 WRITERS OF THE NT WHAT TO RIGHT??



Apparently KJVonly forgot to read John 16:14 BELOW!!



John 14:23,24: Jesus says, Anyone who loves Me **WILL OBEY MY TEACHING**. My Father will love them, and We will come to them and make Our home with them. Anyone who does not love Me will not obey My teaching!"



John 16:12-14 Jesus says, "I have much more to say to you, more than you can now bear. But when he, the spirit of Truth comes, he will guide you into all the Truth. He will not speak on his own; he will speak only what he hears, and he will tell you what is yet to come. HE WILL GLORIFY ME BECAUSE IT IS **FROM ME** THAT HE WILL RECEIVE WHAT HE WILL MAKE KNOWN TO YOU**!"



And holy spirit inspired the 8 writers of the 27 books of the New Testament to write everything Jesus commanded him to write!!



Matthew 28:18-20: Jesus says, "**ALL AUTHORITY** in heaven and on earth has been given to **ME**. Therefore go and make disciples of all nations... Teaching them to **OBEY EVERYTHING I HAVE COMMANDED YOU**{WHICH IS THE ENTIRE NT}. And surely I am with you always!!"



I Corinthians 9:21: I am under **CHRIST'S LAW**!!

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Posted : 13 Aug, 2019 06:30 PM

The Preterists like KJVonly believe that every prophecy in the Mount of Olives prophecies in Matthew 24 and 25, Mark 13 an Luke 21 and every prophecy in Revelation were totally completed in AD 70??? The Preterists also believe that that all the words in the New Testament are inspired by God.



Let us quote one of the prophecies in in Matthew 25 that could not have happened in ad 70!!



Matthew 25:31-34,41,46: Jesus prophesied, "When the Son of Man comes in His glory, and all the angels with Him, He will sit on His glorious throne. All the nations will be gathered before Him, an He will separate the people one from another as a shepherd separates his sheep from the goats. He will put the sheep on His right and the goats on His left. **THEN** the King will say to those on his right. Come, you are blessed by My Father ; take your inhreritance , the Kingdom prepared for you since the creation of the world... "Then He will say to those on His left, 'Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared fror the Devil and his angels....**THEN** they will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life!"



There are about 20 prophecies in the New Testament that absolutely could not have happened in AD 70 so apparently the Preterists are **FALSE PROPHETS OF SATAN**!!

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Posted : 13 Aug, 2019 07:11 PM

Prophetic7744 writes someone claims;

"JESUS DID NOT TELL THE HOLY SPIRIT WHAT TO INSPIRE THE 8 WRITERS OF THE NT WHAT TO RIGHT??"



Can someone please translate this for me?



Btw; You made a bold claim; (that Jesus commanded the authors of the NT to write). I asked you about this. You avoided answering. Time to put up or shut up: Where is your proof?

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Posted : 13 Aug, 2019 07:33 PM

KJVONLY CLAIMS THAT JESUS DID NOT TELL THE HOLY SPIRIT WHAT TO INSPIRE THE 8 WRITERS OF THE NT WHAT TO RIGHT??



Apparently KJVonly forgot to read John 16:14 BELOW!!



John 14:23,24: Jesus says, Anyone who loves Me **WILL OBEY MY TEACHING**. My Father will love them, and We will come to them and make Our home with them. Anyone who does not love Me will not obey My teaching!"



John 16:12-14 Jesus says, "I have much more to say to you, more than you can now bear. But when he, the spirit of Truth comes, he will guide you into all the Truth. He will not speak on his own; he will speak only what he hears, and he will tell you what is yet to come. HE WILL GLORIFY ME BECAUSE IT IS **FROM ME** THAT HE WILL RECEIVE WHAT HE WILL MAKE KNOWN TO YOU**!"



And holy spirit inspired the 8 writers of the 27 books of the New Testament to write everything Jesus commanded him to write!!



Matthew 28:18-20: Jesus says, "**ALL AUTHORITY** in heaven and on earth has been given to **ME**. Therefore go and make disciples of all nations... Teaching them to **OBEY EVERYTHING I HAVE COMMANDED YOU**{WHICH IS THE ENTIRE NT}. And surely I am with you always!!"



I Corinthians 9:21: I am under **CHRIST'S LAW**!!

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Posted : 13 Aug, 2019 09:55 PM

Yeap, no proof; typical avoidance tactics of a child.

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Posted : 14 Aug, 2019 05:23 AM

The Preterists like KJVonly believe that every prophecy in the Mount of Olives prophecies in Matthew 24 and 25, Mark 13 an Luke 21 and every prophecy in Revelation were totally completed in AD 70??? The Preterists also believe that that all the words in the New Testament are inspired by God.



Let us quote one of the prophecies in in Matthew 25 and Revelation 21:1-5 that could not have happened in ad 70!!



Matthew 25:31-34,41,46: Jesus prophesied, "When the Son of Man comes in His glory, and all the angels with Him, He will sit on His glorious throne. All the nations will be gathered before Him, an He will separate the people one from another as a shepherd separates his sheep from the goats. He will put the sheep on His right and the goats on His left. **THEN** the King will say to those on his right. Come, you are blessed by My Father ; take your inhreritance , the Kingdom prepared for you since the creation of the world... "Then He will say to those on His left, 'Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared fror the Devil and his angels....**THEN** they will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life!"



**WE**{*ALL BORN AGAIN SAINTS*} ARE ALL WAITING FOR THE NEW EARTH, THE NEW HEAVENS AND THE HEAVENLY NEW JERUSALEM!!



Revelation 21:1-5: Then I saw a **NEW HEAVEN** and a **NEW EARTH**, for the {present} first heaven and first earth **HAD PASSED AWAY**, and there was no longer any sea. I saw the Holy City, the **NEW JERUSALEM**, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared as a bride beautifully dressed for her husband. And I heard a loud voice from the throne saying, "Now the dwelling of God is with men, and He will live with them. They will be His people, and God Himself will be with them. They will be His people, and God Himself will be with them and be their God. He will wipe every tear from their eyes, There will be no more death or mourning or crying or pain, for the old order of things has passed away." He who was seated on the throne said, "I am making **EVERYTHING NEW**!" Then He said, "Write this down, for these words are TRUSTWORTHY and TRUE!"



**THIS IS THE MAIN HOPE OF ALL BORN AGAIN SAINTS**



There are about 20 prophecies in the New Testament that absolutely could not have happened in AD 70 so apparently the Preterists are **FALSE PROPHETS OF SATAN**!!

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John 14 verses 21 - 24
Posted : 14 Aug, 2019 05:23 AM

The Preterists like KJVonly believe that every prophecy in the Mount of Olives prophecies in Matthew 24 and 25, Mark 13 an Luke 21 and every prophecy in Revelation were totally completed in AD 70??? The Preterists also believe that that all the words in the New Testament are inspired by God.



Let us quote one of the prophecies in in Matthew 25 and Revelation 21:1-5 that could not have happened in ad 70!!



Matthew 25:31-34,41,46: Jesus prophesied, "When the Son of Man comes in His glory, and all the angels with Him, He will sit on His glorious throne. All the nations will be gathered before Him, an He will separate the people one from another as a shepherd separates his sheep from the goats. He will put the sheep on His right and the goats on His left. **THEN** the King will say to those on his right. Come, you are blessed by My Father ; take your inhreritance , the Kingdom prepared for you since the creation of the world... "Then He will say to those on His left, 'Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared fror the Devil and his angels....**THEN** they will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life!"



**WE**{*ALL BORN AGAIN SAINTS*} ARE ALL WAITING FOR THE NEW EARTH, THE NEW HEAVENS AND THE HEAVENLY NEW JERUSALEM!!



Revelation 21:1-5: Then I saw a **NEW HEAVEN** and a **NEW EARTH**, for the {present} first heaven and first earth **HAD PASSED AWAY**, and there was no longer any sea. I saw the Holy City, the **NEW JERUSALEM**, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared as a bride beautifully dressed for her husband. And I heard a loud voice from the throne saying, "Now the dwelling of God is with men, and He will live with them. They will be His people, and God Himself will be with them. They will be His people, and God Himself will be with them and be their God. He will wipe every tear from their eyes, There will be no more death or mourning or crying or pain, for the old order of things has passed away." He who was seated on the throne said, "I am making **EVERYTHING NEW**!" Then He said, "Write this down, for these words are TRUSTWORTHY and TRUE!"



**THIS IS THE MAIN HOPE OF ALL BORN AGAIN SAINTS**



There are about 20 prophecies in the New Testament that absolutely could not have happened in AD 70 so apparently the Preterists are **FALSE PROPHETS OF SATAN**!!

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