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**CHRIST HIMSELF APPOINTS SOME TO BE PROPHETS, SOME TO BE EVANGELISTS AND SOME TO BE PASTORS AND TEACHERS** EPHESIANS 4:7,11:
Posted : 9 Aug, 2019 06:55 PM

Titus 1:6-9: An **ELDER** must be blameless, faithful to **HIS** wife, a **MAN** whose children believe... Since an **OVERSEER** manages God's household, **HE** must be blameless... **HE** must **HOLD FIRMLY** to the trustworthy message as it has been taught, so that **HE** can encourage others by **SOUND DOCTRINE and **REFUTE THOSE** WHO OPPOSE IT**.



I Timothy 5:17: The **ELDERS** who direct the affairs of the church well are worthy of a double honor, especially those whose work is **PREACHING ** and **TEACHING**!



I Timothy 3:1 Whoever desires to be an **OVERSEER** desires a noble task. Now the **OVERSEER**is to be above reproach, faithful to **HIS** wife, temperate, self-controlled, respectable, hospitable and **ABLE TO TEACH**!!



I Peter 5:1-4: To the elders among you, I appeal as a fellow elder and a witness of Christ's sufferings who also will share in the glory to be revealed. Be shepherds of God's flock that is under your care, watching over them--not because you must, but because you are willing as God wants you to be, not pursuing dishonest gain, but eager to serve, not lording over those entrusted to you, but being examples to the flock. And when the Chief Shepherd appears, you will receive the crown of glory that will never fade away!



Ephesians 4:7,11-13,16: To each one of us grace has been given as Christ apportioned it... So Christ Himself {Not the church!} gives some to be apostles, some to be **PROPHETS**, some to be **EVAMGELISTS** and some to be **PASTORS** and **TEACHERS**, to equip His people for works of service. so that the body of Christ may be built up until we all reach unity in the faith and in the knowledge of the Son of God and become mature, attaining to the whole measure of the fullness of Christ... From Him the whole body, joined and held together by every supporting ligament, grows and builds itself up in love, as each part does its work!



Romans 12:4-7: We have different gifts, according to the grace given to each of us. If your gift is **PROPHESYING**, then prophesy in accordance with your faith, if it is **TEACHING**,**THEN TEACH**!



Titus 2:1-8,11-15: You, however, must **TEACH** what is appropriate to sound doctrine. Teach the older men to be temperate, worthy of respect, self-controlled, and sound in faith, in love and in endurance. Likewise teach the older women to be reverent in the way they live, not to be slanderers or addicted to much wine, but to **TEACH** what is good. Then they can urge younger women to love their husbands and children, to be self-controlled and pure, to be busy at home, to be kind and to be subject to their husbands, so that no one can malign the word of God. Similarly, encourage the young men to be self-controlled. In everything set them an example by doing what is good. In your **TEACHING** show integrity, seriousness, and soundness of speech that can not be condemned.... For the grace of God has appeared that offers salvation to all people. It **TEACHES** us to say "No" to ungodliness and worldly pleasure, and to live self-controlled lives in this present age, while we wait for the **BLESSED HOPE**--the glorious appearing of our great God and Savior, Jesus Christ, who gave Himself for us to redeem us from all wickedness and to purify for Himself a people that are His very own, eager to do what is good!



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**CHRIST HIMSELF APPOINTS SOME TO BE PROPHETS, SOME TO BE EVANGELISTS AND SOME TO BE PASTORS AND TEACHERS** EPHESIANS 4:7,11:
Posted : 9 Aug, 2019 07:08 PM

"But none of you should be called a teacher. You have only one teacher, and all of you are like brothers and sisters"

- Matthew 23:8

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**CHRIST HIMSELF APPOINTS SOME TO BE PROPHETS, SOME TO BE EVANGELISTS AND SOME TO BE PASTORS AND TEACHERS** EPHESIANS 4:7,11:
Posted : 9 Aug, 2019 07:43 PM

Yes, Jesus Christ is our great God and our **HEAD TEACHER** and he also appoints teachers to teach His teachings while He is in heaven according to God's Word!!



Ephesians 4:7,11-13,16: To each one of us grace has been given as Christ apportioned it... So Christ Himself {Not the church!} gives some to be apostles, some to be **PROPHETS**, some to be **EVAMGELISTS** and some to be **PASTORS** and **TEACHERS**, to equip His people for works of service. so that the body of Christ may be built up until we all reach unity in the faith and in the knowledge of the Son of God and become mature, attaining to the whole measure of the fullness of Christ... From Him the whole body, joined and held together by every supporting ligament, grows and builds itself up in love, as each part does its work!



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**CHRIST HIMSELF APPOINTS SOME TO BE PROPHETS, SOME TO BE EVANGELISTS AND SOME TO BE PASTORS AND TEACHERS** EPHESIANS 4:7,11:
Posted : 9 Aug, 2019 08:44 PM

"But none of you should be called a teacher. You have only one teacher, and all of you are like brothers and sisters"

- Matthew 23:8



Someone added the word "head" before "teacher"



Isn't that considered adding to Scripture?

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**CHRIST HIMSELF APPOINTS SOME TO BE PROPHETS, SOME TO BE EVANGELISTS AND SOME TO BE PASTORS AND TEACHERS** EPHESIANS 4:7,11:
Posted : 9 Aug, 2019 09:17 PM

So are you suggesting that God's Word is contradicting itself like most Satanists do??



Yes, Jesus Christ is our great God and our **HEAD TEACHER** and he also appoints teachers to teach His teachings while He is in heaven according to God's Word!!



Ephesians 4:7,11-13,16: To each one of us grace has been given as Christ apportioned it... So Christ Himself {Not the church!} gives some to be apostles, some to be **PROPHETS**, some to be **EVAMGELISTS** and some to be **PASTORS** and **TEACHERS**, to equip His people for works of service. so that the body of Christ may be built up until we all reach unity in the faith and in the knowledge of the Son of God and become mature, attaining to the whole measure of the fullness of Christ... From Him the whole body, joined and held together by every supporting ligament, grows and builds itself up in love, as each part does its work!



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**CHRIST HIMSELF APPOINTS SOME TO BE PROPHETS, SOME TO BE EVANGELISTS AND SOME TO BE PASTORS AND TEACHERS** EPHESIANS 4:7,11:
Posted : 10 Aug, 2019 04:17 AM

"So are you suggesting that God's Word is contradicting itself like most Satanists do??"



I am saying you are "adding" to Scripture. Worse; you are putting words into the mouth of Jesus. You are telling people Jesus said something he didn't say.

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**CHRIST HIMSELF APPOINTS SOME TO BE PROPHETS, SOME TO BE EVANGELISTS AND SOME TO BE PASTORS AND TEACHERS** EPHESIANS 4:7,11:
Posted : 10 Aug, 2019 08:13 AM

How many teachers did Jesus say we are to have?



Without "adding" to Scripture the answer is plain and simple:



Jesus said; "You have only one teacher"

- Matthew 23:10



Caution; there are those here who desire to be your teacher. They will add, subtract and change the words of Jesus in order to take his place and put themselves as a teacher over you.

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**CHRIST HIMSELF APPOINTS SOME TO BE PROPHETS, SOME TO BE EVANGELISTS AND SOME TO BE PASTORS AND TEACHERS** EPHESIANS 4:7,11:
Posted : 10 Aug, 2019 09:16 AM

Jesus Christ is our great God and our **HEAD TEACHER** and he also appoints teachers to teach His teachings while He is in heaven according to God's Word!!



Zecharyah has stated that is wrong to call our great God and Savior Jesus Christ our **HEAD TEACHER** since adding the word **HEAD** would be adding to God's Word and that Jesus is our only **TEACHER**??



**BUT WHAT DOES GOD'S WORD SAY**??



Ephesians 4:7,11-13,16: To each one of us grace has been given as Christ apportioned it... So Christ Himself {Not the church!} gives some to be apostles, some to be **PROPHETS**, some to be **EVAMGELISTS** and some to be **PASTORS** and **TEACHERS**, to equip His people for works of service. so that the body of Christ may be built up until we all reach unity in the faith and in the knowledge of the Son of God and become mature, attaining to the whole measure of the fullness of Christ....Speaking the truth in love, we will grow to become in every way the mature body of Him who is the **HEAD**, that is, **CHRIST**! From Him the whole body, joined and held together by every supporting ligament, grows and builds itself up in love, as each part does its work!



I Timothy 5:17: The **ELDERS** who direct the affairs of the church well are worthy of a double honor, especially those whose work is **PREACHING ** and **TEACHING**!



I Timothy 3:1 Whoever desires to be an **OVERSEER** desires a noble task. Now the **OVERSEER**is to be above reproach, faithful to **HIS** wife, temperate, self-controlled, respectable, hospitable and **ABLE TO TEACH**!!



Romans 12:4-7: We have different gifts, according to the grace given to each of us. If your gift is **PROPHESYING**, then prophesy in accordance with your faith, if it is **TEACHING**,**THEN TEACH**!



Matthew 28:18-20: Jesus says, "**ALL AUTHORITY** in heaven and on earth has been given to **ME**. Therefore go and make disciples of all nations...**TEACHING** them to **OBEY EVERYTHING** I have commanded you. And srely I am with you always, to the very end of the age!!"



**TEACHING** them to obey everything Jesus commanded would include all the books in the New Testament since Jesus commanded the holy spirit to inspire all of the books in the New Testament as per:



John 16:12-14: Jesus says, "I have much more to say to you, more than you can now bear. But when the spirit of truth comes, he will guide you into all the truth. He will not speak on His own; he will speak only what he hears, and he will tell you what is yet to come. He will glorify Me because it is from Me that he will receive what he will make known to you!"



**THERE ARE ALSO FALSE TEACHERS LIKE ZECHARYAH AND SATAN THAT TEACH YOU ARE SAVED BY GOOD WORKS**??



**BUT WHAT DOES GOD'S WORD SAY**??



Titus 3:3,4: At one time we too were foolish, disobedient, deceived and enslaved by all kinds of passions and pleasures. We lived in malice and envy, being hated and hating one another. But when the kindness and **LOVE** of God our Savior appeared , He saved us, **NOT BECAUSE OF RIGHTEOUS THINGS WE HAD DONE**, but because of **HIS MERCY**!!



Ephesians 2:8,9: For it is by **GRACE** you have been saved, through **FAITH**—and this **NOT FROM YOURSELVES**, it is the **GIFT OF GOD**—not by works. So that no one can boast. For we are **GOD'S WORKMANSHIP**, created in Christ Jesus to do **GOOD WORKS**, which God prepared in advance for us to do!



2 Timothy 3:15,16: 4:1,2: You have known the **HOLY SCRIPTURES**, which are able to make you wise for salvation through faith in Christ Jesus. **ALL SCRIPTURE IS GOD-BREATHED** and is useful for **TEACHING**, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, so that the man of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work. In the presence of God and of Christ Jesus, who will judge the living and the dead, and in view of His appearing and His kingdom, I give you this charge: **PREACH THE WORD**!! {**WHICH IS THE ENTIRE NEW COVENANT AND NEW TESTAMENT**!!} Be prepared in season and out of season; correct, rebuke and encourage--with great patience and careful instruction. For the time will come when people {Like Zecharyah} will not put up with sound doctrine!



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**CHRIST HIMSELF APPOINTS SOME TO BE PROPHETS, SOME TO BE EVANGELISTS AND SOME TO BE PASTORS AND TEACHERS** EPHESIANS 4:7,11:
Posted : 10 Aug, 2019 10:23 AM

Apparently the OP thinks he is your teacher - RUN!

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Posted : 10 Aug, 2019 10:27 AM

Caution; there are those here who desire to be your teacher. They will add, subtract and change the words of Jesus in order to take his place and put themselves as a teacher over you.

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**CHRIST HIMSELF APPOINTS SOME TO BE PROPHETS, SOME TO BE EVANGELISTS AND SOME TO BE PASTORS AND TEACHERS** EPHESIANS 4:7,11:
Posted : 10 Aug, 2019 01:16 PM

**Jesus Christ is our great **GOD** and our **HEAD TEACHER** and he also appoints teachers to teach His teachings while He is in heaven according to God's Word**!



Zecharyah has stated that is wrong to call our great **GOD** and **SAVIOR** Jesus Christ our **HEAD TEACHER** since adding the word **HEAD** would be adding to God's Word and that Jesus is our only **TEACHER**??



**BUT WHAT DOES GOD'S WORD SAY**??



Ephesians 4:7,11-13,16: To each one of us grace has been given as Christ apportioned it... So Christ Himself {Not the church!} gives some to be apostles, some to be **PROPHETS**, some to be **EVAMGELISTS** and some to be **PASTORS** and **TEACHERS**, to equip His people for works of service. so that the body of Christ may be built up until we all reach unity in the faith and in the knowledge of the Son of God and become mature, attaining to the whole measure of the fullness of Christ....Speaking the truth in love, we will grow to become in every way the mature body of Him who is the **HEAD**, that is, **CHRIST**! From Him the whole body, joined and held together by every supporting ligament, grows and builds itself up in love, as each part does its work!



I Timothy 5:17: The **ELDERS** who direct the affairs of the church well are worthy of a double honor, especially those whose work is **PREACHING ** and **TEACHING**!



I Timothy 3:1 Whoever desires to be an **OVERSEER** desires a noble task. Now the **OVERSEER**is to be above reproach, faithful to **HIS** wife, temperate, self-controlled, respectable, hospitable and **ABLE TO TEACH**!!



Romans 12:4-7: We have different gifts, according to the grace given to each of us. If your gift is **PROPHESYING**, then prophesy in accordance with your faith, if it is **TEACHING**,**THEN TEACH**!



Matthew 28:18-20: Jesus says, "**ALL AUTHORITY** in heaven and on earth has been given to **ME**. Therefore go and make disciples of all nations...**TEACHING** them to **OBEY EVERYTHING** I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always, to the very end of the age!!"



**TEACHING** them to obey everything Jesus commanded would include all the books in the New Testament since Jesus commanded the holy spirit to inspire all of the books in the New Testament as per:



John 16:12-14: Jesus says, "I have much more to say to you, more than you can now bear. But when the spirit of truth comes, he will guide you into all the truth. He will not speak on His own; he will speak only what he hears, and he will tell you what is yet to come. He will glorify Me because it is from Me that he will receive what he will make known to you!"



**THERE ARE ALSO FALSE TEACHERS LIKE ZECHARYAH AND SATAN THAT TEACH YOU ARE SAVED BY GOOD WORKS AND JESUS IS NOT GOD**??



**BUT WHAT DOES GOD'S WORD SAY**??



Titus 3:3,4: At one time we too were foolish, disobedient, deceived and enslaved by all kinds of passions and pleasures. We lived in malice and envy, being hated and hating one another. But when the kindness and **LOVE** of God our Savior appeared , He saved us, **NOT BECAUSE OF RIGHTEOUS THINGS WE HAD DONE**, but because of **HIS MERCY**!!



Ephesians 2:8,9: For it is by **GRACE** you have been saved, through **FAITH**—and this **NOT FROM YOURSELVES**, it is the **GIFT OF GOD**—not by works. So that no one can boast. For we are **GOD'S WORKMANSHIP**, created in Christ Jesus to do **GOOD WORKS**, which God prepared in advance for us to do!



Titus 2:13,14: **WE** wait for **BLESSED HOPE**--the glorious appearing of our great **GOD AND SAVIOR**, Jesus Christ, who gave Himself to redeem us from all wickedness and to purify for Himself a people that are His very own, eager to do what is good!!



2 Timothy 3:15,16: 4:1,2: You have known the **HOLY SCRIPTURES**, which are able to make you wise for salvation through faith in Christ Jesus. **ALL SCRIPTURE IS GOD-BREATHED** and is useful for **TEACHING**, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, so that the man of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work. In the presence of God and of Christ Jesus, who will judge the living and the dead, and in view of His appearing and His kingdom, I give you this charge: **PREACH THE WORD**!! {**WHICH IS THE ENTIRE NEW COVENANT AND NEW TESTAMENT**!!} Be prepared in season and out of season; correct, rebuke and encourage--with great patience and careful instruction. For the time will come when people {Like Zecharyah} will not put up with sound doctrine!



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