Maybe God sent me a strong delusion that I should believe a lie so that when I came to the truth, I would publicly repent, causing Richard the Parrot to do so as well?? If that is true , he surely DOES work in mysterious ways!!! I am ecstatic!!
P.S. I now believe in an after death consciousness again.
I still think Teddy could have been gentle with me when he didn't agree. David was very helpful and so was my research online which was from a preterist archive believe it or not. And I claim preterism because I still believe that Jesus fulfilled biblical prophecy in the first century.
What on flat earth are you talking about in change that you now "I now believe in an after death consciousness again." ?
Be specific, what you posted sounds Biblically frightening in new doctrine to me!
Oh and P7744, when you repent, you repent tears of joy? Neither of you parrot lovers are specific in what your repenting of /changing of. I'm not buying any of it! Lol!
I hope this clarifies...SOUL SLEEP is the idea that when all people (both righteous and unrighteous) died back in the days before Christ, both their souls and bodies “died,” meaning that even their soul/spirit became unconscious until the resurrection. The Seventh Day Adventists go even further to assert that the soul/spirit is nonexistent during that time between death and the resurrection event. Furthermore, if they are unsaved, they cannot have consciousness restored to them, since they believe that “consciousness of the soul” is immortality, and only the righteous (saved ones) get immortality. So, to be consistent, the Soul Sleep doctrine forces one to the Annihilationist viewpoint. It all starts with the definitions of “immortality” and “life” and “death” and “destroy” and “perish.” Below are some passages which show clearly that the souls/spirits of the dead in the days BEFORE and AFTER Christ’s resurrection were “conscious” or “alive” in the unseen spiritual realm.
In the Old Testament, we could mention Enoch “walking with God and was no more [upon the earth].” Enoch did not die young just to go into unconsciousness. He went into the spiritual realm with God in a conscious state. The necromancer at Endor was commanded by King Saul to conjure up the soul/spirit of Samuel, which she did. Samuel was conscious and aware of what had been happening in the world, as well as what would happen the next day. The passage of time was still a conscious thing to Samuel. Elijah was caught up by fiery angelic chariots into the spiritual realm, and he was conscious there. We see him reappear with Moses to Christ at the Transfiguration. Both Moses (who had died) and Elijah are obviously VERY conscious of what had happened with Christ up to that point, as well as what was about to happen to Jesus shortly in Jerusalem (His “departure” or death). In Rev. 6 it mentions the “souls” under the altar crying out “How Long?” These were obviously dead folks who had been martyred, yet their souls were VERY conscious apart from their bodies, and this was BEFORE the resurrection. Paul says in Philippians 1:23 that if he was killed in the persecution that he would “depart and be with Christ, for that is VERY much better.” That doesn’t sound like a description of “soul sleep” to me. And keep in mind that this was BEFORE the resurrection. Also, in 2 Cor. 12 Paul talks about his being “caught up” into the “third heaven” (paradise) and hearing “inexpressible words” there. He wasn’t sure whether that was an “in the body” or “out of the body” experience. But if “soul sleep” is true, then it could not have been an “out of the body” experience, and the inspired Apostle Paul would have to be considered mistaken for even suggesting that it could have been “out of the body” in the first place. He should have known the true nature of the afterlife, especially since he had been taken there “in the body.” His ambiguity here about a POSSIBLE “out of the body” experience in Paradise (the third heaven) does not bode well for the “soul sleep” advocates. If it was not a POSSIBLE way of experiencing Paradise, then Paul would not even suggested it. It seems clear that he is teaching the same thing Jesus did about the unseen spiritual realm which can be consciously experienced “out of the body.”
Well I am sorry brother for taking your words out of context and getting bent out of shape. Is that sufficient?
"Well I am sorry brother for taking your words out of context and getting bent out of shape. Is that sufficient?"
WELL THEN don't post it here but in the PUBLIC thrashing of ME in your two PUBLIC SPECTICAL THREADS! All the world needs to know! Right? It was SOOOOOO important to you!!! Remember I said you would have your bowl of crow? What's it taste like?
Oh WOW! As far as this soul sleep subject you are talking about and what you state is freightening to me! None of it backed by Scripture. Ooooh boy, another thread!
WELL THEN don't post it here but in the PUBLIC thrashing of ME in your two PUBLIC SPECTICAL THREADS! All the world needs to know! Right? It was SOOOOOO important to you!!! Remember I said you would have your bowl of crow? What's it taste like?
YOU ARE the one that is blind! You are soooooo short of memory!
You don't remember your original BASHING of me in the thread "Even the Prophetic "Parrot" 7744 didn't do that"??? 120 some views! Thanks for waiting so long!
Still no sorry there! That is where you started HARASSING me with NO evidence except what was in your mind and heart!
Wow! I have to remind you were it all began??? You even posted a recent PUBLIC bashing of me there!
Already accusing me of being blind and now you have to eat some more crow!
I am sorry you continue to have a hardened heart towards me and not accept my apology.
Ephesians 4:26-32 King James Version (KJV)
26 Be ye angry, and sin not: let not the sun go down upon your wrath:
27 Neither give place to the devil.
28 Let him that stole steal no more: but rather let him labour, working with his hands the thing which is good, that he may have to give to him that needeth.
29 Let no corrupt communication proceed out of your mouth, but that which is good to the use of edifying, that it may minister grace unto the hearers.
30 And grieve not the holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are sealed unto the day of redemption.
31 Let all bitterness, and wrath, and anger, and clamour, and evil speaking, be put away from you, with all malice:
32 And be ye kind one to another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another, even as God for Christ's sake hath forgiven you.
How do I even attempt to "accept your apology" when you continue to judge me posting Ephesians 4:26-32 to me now! Just because I ask you to go to ALL the forum threads where you TRASHED talked me, misinterpreted me, made false witness accusations of me, and MAKE IT RIGHT for the public! NOW, by your assumption AGAIN, you assume once again that I have "a hardened heart"
towards you! Really? So who does Ephesians 4:26-32 REALLY apply to here? YOU! So what do YOU need to do about it?
Examples.... The statements in quotation marks below are quotes of KJVonly.
"You really do tell on yourself and you don't even know it. It is truly subconscious"
Really? When I was being sarcastic because you was wrongly judging me about the CULT so called "article" I was talking about and exposing? Now go back and read Ephesians 4:26-32 to YOURSELF, I did NOT judge you!
"He (P7744) never disrespected me and said what I posted was DRIBBLE!"
Ahhhh, only thinking about yourself, YET you failed to point out P7744 DOES disrespect Garcenotworksaves. Right? Me? I never did disrespect you (but you did me) and I never said what you posted was DRIBBLE (but i did say THE article was spewing false doctrine DRIBBLE!) Now go back and read Ephesians 4:26-32 back to YOURSELF, I did nothing to you!
"ok back to DRIBBLE.. I had to look it up last night in the urban dictionary. It basically stated that it is someone who needs to shut up and stop speaking bullcrap!!"
Notice you say "it basically stated" as if that is surely the definition. Lol! No, it not even close! So you paint a picture of me telling "someone to shut up and stop speaking bullcrap!!" Another accusation of me. Now go back and read Ephesians 4:26-32 back to YOURSELF, your the one that needs those verses read to YOU!
"You called my "artless article" dribble. No, I didn't write it but I agreed with it."
Notice now you called the article "my" as in yours (you claim its your baby or whatever. Lol!), when it should be THE as in THE "artless article" of dribble. Meaning you indeed did not write it! So its not you or yours! Fine if you agree with it, but that has nothing to do with me making fun of IT (article) or calling IT (article) names because IT (article) is a CULT teaching and not a person! Its not
you, get over yourself. OK? Now go back and read Ephesians 4:26-32 back to YOURSELF, I did nothing to you!
"Did I call Parrot's posts dribble?? No, I just didn't agree . It is ok to disagree!! Not disrespect people here though."
AGAIN, if Parrot is posting an article, website or something he did NOT write, then IT (article,website etc) is not him. Calling a article, website etc dribble has nothing to do with agreeing or disagreeing with a PERSON/SOUL but when P7744 or YOU call PERSONS/SOULS names like "satanist" and "trolls" THEN you are disrespecting REAL people! Got it now? Now go back and read Ephesians 4:26-32 back to YOURSELF, you called a person a name!
"Why couldn't you be kind? Maybe you need to examine yourself."
Notice you paint the picture of me being unkind TO YOU, by YOUR assumption! I call the article dribble, I'm unkind to the article. Lol! So publically and privately I need to examine myself for being so mean to an article. Wow! Now go back and read Ephesians 4:26-32 back to YOURSELF, I did nothing to you, but I did to the article! Should I repent to the article of dribble? Lol!
"I NEVER would have called something you posted , dribble! Where is the humble characteristics ?. Meekness? LOVE??? Patience , kindness , understanding??"
Well I would hope you would not have called an article mine (as if the you was me) as dribble, when the fact is, it is NOT me! Its an article, not a person. Lol! So I'm suppose to have humble characteristics of meekness, LOVE, Patience, kindness, understanding toward an article of dribble?? Lol! Really? Now go back and read Ephesians 4:26-32 back to YOURSELF, I did nothing to you!
I could give MANY a MORE examples of the harassing comments and assumptions you said to me and about me! Are you starting to catch on yet? Your faulty application of the verses YOU POST to me actually apply to YOU, not me because I did nothing wrong!
So go ahead and go back and read Ephesians 4:26-32 back to YOURSELF, I did nothing to you!
Remember the saying... When you point a finger at someone, you have three pointing back at you KJVonly! Lol!