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By What Authority do Christians Ignore Passover to celebrate "Ishtar"?
Posted : 5 Apr, 2009 02:23 PM
The Celebration of Easter Is pagan from beginning to end.
And it is founded upon doctrines that deny Christs Claims.
AND
Easter was the Celebration of Ishtar before the Christian Era.
The celebration of Easter includes the baking and eating of hot cross buns on Good Friday
and the use of dyed eggs on Easter Sunday, which was prominent in the Chaldean religion.
And the hot cross buns were used in the worship of the queen of heaven, the goddess of Ishtar,
as early as the days of Cecrops, the founder of Athens, 1500 years Before the Christian Era!
The Easter egg is a rite of fertility, as is the Easter bunny, which has been associated with the Easter holiday.
So, Hidden behind the Easter celebration is the worship of sex as a god...
The god of "procreation", as being the power of preserving the human race.
As strange As It May seem There Is Actually
NO COMMANDMENT OR SUGGESTION Given by YHWH
In His WORD saying that we should even celebrate the resurrection of Yahshua...
I dont Know Why..
Perhaps He would rather have us Celebrate His Resurrection Every Time Someone Is "Reborn"?
I didnt write the rules, I'm just bringing them to your attention...If I'm wrong, please show me..
But The Bible Does clearly Say, Even By The Words of CHIRST HIMSELF that We Should Keep
A Commemorative Each Year To HIS DEATH!!! This is pictured in YHWH's Command to
Observe the LORD'S SUPPER each year at the Passover...Nothing about ishtar celebrations!
EASTER IS 100% TRADITION-WITH ABSOLUTELY NO PROOF
Any tradition of men that conflicts with YHWH's revelation must be dismissed as false doctrine.
In Ezekiel 8, Ezekiel is shown several abominations but the greatest abomination is found in 15 and 16:
Then said he unto me, hast thou seen this, O son of man?
Turn yet again,and thou shalt see greater abominations than these.
And he brought me into the inner court of the Lord's house,
and behold,
at the door of the temple of the Lord, between the porch and the altar,were about 25 men,
with their back toward the temple of the Lord, and their faces toward the east: And they worshipped the sun toward the east.
On Easter Sunday morning, when Christian are standing in the early morning darkness
with their backs toward their temple and awaiting the rising of the SUN,
Do they ever stop and wonder what they are really doing?
The Messiah asked (Thus Commanded) us to remember His death and to keep That Day as a Memorial.
THE CHRISTIAN WORLD DOES THE EXACT OPPOSITE OF WHAT CHRIST COMMANDED...
WHY IS THAT??? OR BETTER YET TELL ME "CHRISTIAN SOLDIERS"
WHAT ARE THE CONSEQUENCES OF ANY SOLDIER DISOBEYING HIS COMMANDER?
For as often as ye eat this bread, and drink this cup, ye do shew the Lords death till He come
(1st.Cor.11:26)...Can anyone find a scripture that says we should commemorate His Resurrection.
I Think We Properly Commemorate His Resurrection Every Time A New Believer Rises From The Water
The memorial of His death is Sundown (not sunrise) on the 14th day of the first month-PASSOVER!!
The original Passover foreshadowed the Messiah. Christ's Crucifixion Fulfilled the Passover.
And It Is the Passover which is now kept in a new light, that we are to Commemorate.
And it is this Celebration that We even as Christians are told to remember until Messiah Returns
And this day shall be unto you for a memorial; and you shall keep it a feast to the Lord through out
your generations ; YOU SHALL KEEP IT A FEAST BY AN ORDINANCE FOREVER
(Exodus.12:42).
Thou shalt therefore keep this ordinance in its season from year to year (Exodus 13:10),
Since the Lord our Savior Asks Us To Remember This VERY SAME DAY, is it JUST "JEWISH"?
Can we say it is no longer to be a memorial? The only difference now is that the true believer
recognizes the true meaning of Passover while the Common Jew remains in unbelief.
Although A Jew may not comprehend the true meaning of Passover, he still Remembers It;
Which is more than can be said for the so called Elect..NEW COVENANT BELIEVERS".
Some may argue that there is no longer a need to sacrifice a lamb, because Yahshua became our
Passover Lamb, ONCE AND FOR ALL. Some might also argue that All we need do now is "REMEMBER".
But the Biblical Command to the Observance & Remembrance of the Passover Feast is Clear.
But the Easter Traditions of hot cross buns & easter eggs & & deviled eggs holiday ham,
& waiting for the 1st beams of the sun on the unholy "day of the sun" are total abominations.
And they have absolutely nothing to do with the Resurrection of the Messiah.
on Sunday.
The event & the day that we are supposed to be remembering & commemorating is the Passover.
Which always falls on the 14th day of the 1st month of Abib, at the Setting of the sun.
If the Messiah arose on the 17th day of the month, which is a different day every year,
Why do Christians always celebrate on the pagan day of the sun on the pagan holiday Ishtar?
So What Are The Facts? The Tradition of Easter is a direct denial of the Messiahship of Christ!
As A Proof of His Messiahship, Yahshua said: "An evil and adulterous generaton seeketh after a sign,
and there shall no sign be given to it, but the sign of the prophet Jonas:
for as Jonas was 3 days and 3 nights in the whale's belly;
so shall the Son of man be 3 days and 3 nights in
the heart of the earth. Matthew 12:39-40,
This is a very important statement that Christ made, and in view of the
Easter tradition
of Christ dying on Friday afternoon and being resurrected at sunrise on Sunday morning..
Well, then....
If this common Christian Misconception is true then His statement in Matthew 12:38-40 WOULD BE A LIE.
It is commonly taught today that Yahshua was crucified on Friday and that the resurrection occurred
about sunrise on Easter Sunday morning...But few professing Christians
have ever even given any thought to question or to prove this GOOD FRIDAY to EASTER
TRADITION.
The Bible tells us to prove all things, and you will be literaly astounded by this proof!
CHURCHES FACE A DILEMMA This one supernatural proof given by Yahshua as a Sign of His Messiahship
has greatly bothered the commentators and church leaders for years. And their attempts to
explain away this Proof of Christ's Messiahship are so ridiculous that they would be
humurous if they werent dealing with such a serious issue of mans doctrine versus YHWH's Truth.
But since they cant explain this 3 DAYS AND 3 NIGHTS, their Good Friday/Easter
tradition collapses.
Your church leaders say that Christ was only in the grave for 26 hours, by their teachings.
So What does your Bible say? Your Bible clearly defines the duration of nights and days.
Many of the so-called Christian scholars admit that, in the Hebrew language in which the book of
Jonah was written, the expression "3 days and 3 nights" means a period of
72 hours..
ie. 3-12 hour days and 3-12 hr.nights...Evening to Evening
(Gen.1:5) and the evening and the morning were the 1st day
Gen.1:8 and the evening and the morning were the 2nd day this is a
full cycle day.
Gen.1:13 and the evening and the morning were the 3rd day a full cycle
eve to eve=24 hrs,
Gen.1:19 and the evening and the morning were the 4th day this is a full cycle=24 hrs
Gen.1:23 and the evening and the morning were the 5th day a full cycle =24hrs.
Gen.1:31 and the evening and the morning were the 6th day a full cycle. 24 hours.
Or Leviticus 23:32: From even to even shall ye celebrate your Sabbath.
Yahshua was asked to give an identifying sign that He was the Christ, the Son of YHWH.
The sign that Christ said would prove Him to be the Son of God and our Savior
is found in Matthew 12:40,"
For as Johnas was 3 days and 3 nights in the whale's belly;
so shall the Son of man be 3 days and 3 nights in the heart of the earth"
Theologians have tried their best to deny this by saying "this is just an idiom, and that any
part of a day or a night could be considered as a whole day or night"...But that still doesnt fit!
But those who use this argument of idioms are just DECEIVING THEMSELVES AND Their Followers.
Yahshua staked His claim to being Our Savior upon remaining 3 days and 3 nights in the tomb.
If He had remained 3 days and 3 nights inside the earth, He would prove Himself
the Savior.
But if He failed in this Ultimate Prophetic Sign He would be rejected as a False Prophet.
It is no wonder Satan has set up a traditional celebration commemorating a Friday Crucifixion;
Followed 25 hours later by Sunday morning sunrise resurrection on the Ishtarian day of the sun.
Thereby denying the very sign that Yahshua Himself Prophesied as His Sign of Messiahship!
3 Full Days and 3 Full Nights = 72 hours not 26
BUT, WASN'T CHRIST AT LEAST RESURRECTED ON SUNDAY?
It is commonly taught in the Christian world that Christ was resurrected early Sunday Morn.
Therefore, it is an "observance of the resurrection" that people keep Easter Sunday
and nothing to do with an observance of the pagan rituals as I am implicatung here.
If Christ had been resurrected on Sunday, perhaps there would be some excuse for
Some sort of remembrance on Sunday each year in commemoration of Yahshua's
resurrection.
But Again, go to your Bible and search the scriptures diligently to see if there is
any mention by YHWH that we should observe or celebrate, the resurrection of
Yahshua.
As you study your Bible you will find no such thing...But we are told to Search
the Scriptures dilligently to prove all things (John.5:39; 1 Thesalonians 5:21)
In the Scriptures we see that Every day begins at the evening sunset..So it is actually
The evening sunset that begins each new day and the evening sunset ends
the old day.
YHWH plainly says that the 1st day began at sunset, and the following sunset ended the 1st day
and that sunset began the 2nd day.
And the Truth is that Yahshua was put into the Tomb shortly before sunset on a Wednesday.
And after 3 full days & 3 full nights he was resurrected at the dawning of the 1st day.
He was not resurrected at dawn, before the rising of the sun as is commonly taught.
but as "the sun set" on the Sabbath(Saturday) THE SON Arose, at the Dawn of the 1st Day.
As the sun set Saturday Night..72 hours after he was placed in the sepulchre on Wednesday.
Part of the confusion arises from a basic misunderstanding of the Nature of Passover.
the Passover was a High Sabbath, which is different than the weekly Saturday Sabbath.
And part of the confusion comes from the verses of Mark 16:9-20 (which are questionable).
Many Bibles claim that this was not a part of the original text...And it is these verses
that give rise to the common misconception that the Dawning of the day was synonymous
with the rising of the sun before the dawning of day..but remember the day Dawns at SunSET.
So with that in mind lets look at Luke 23:54 where it says "and that day was the preparation,
and the Sabbath drew on"...It was the preparation for the Passover. And John 19:14 says
that it was the preparation of the Passover(on the 14th)..and then it says that The next day
was a HIGH SABBATH (the 15th). The Jews,therefore,because it was the (day of)preparation,
that the body should not remain upon the cross on the Sabbath day, for that day
was an HIGH DAY,
besought Pilate that their legs might be broken and that they might be taken away, (John.19:31).
The Wednesday crucifixion day (on the 14th) was the day before the HIGH SABBATH (on the 15th),
The Messiah died after 3:00 p.m., the 9th hour, on the 14th day and had to be buried
before sundown about 6:00p.m.,the twelth hour. So Sundown began the HIGH SABBATH(the 15th).
"So these high priest, upon the coming of their feast which is called
the Passover"
when they slay their sacrificial Lambses, from the 9th hour to the 11th hour.
The Messiah died at the exact time that the Passover lambs were being slain. Matthew 28:1.
After the Sabbath..(and there were two that week), The 15th was the High Passover Sabbath
and the 17th was the weekly Commandment Sabbath, Saturday.
AND WHEN THE SABBATH WAS PAST, Mary Magdalene,and the mother of James,
and Salome,
had bought sweet spices,that they might come and anoint Him (Mark.16:1).
After a Sabbath was past, the women bought spices to anoint the Messiah,and they returned,
and prepared spices and ointments, and RESTED THE SABBATH DAY,according to the commandment(Lk.23:56).
These two verses do not contradict each other, Mark was referring to
the HIGH SABBATH
(Thursday,the 15th),the women bought the spices after this Sabbath was over, they bought
and prepared the spices on Friday, the 16th and rested on the commandment Sabbath (Saturday),
So, we see there were 2 Sabbaths that week THEREFORE, the Messiah died
aftert the 9th hour
3:00p.m. Roman time on Wednesday in the "THE MIDST OF THE WEEK". And put in the grave
just before the 12th hour sundown, which is also the beginning of the 15th the HIGH SABBATH.
He lay in the grave all night and all day Thursday, the 15th (THE HIGH SABBATH) He lay in the grave all night and all day Friday, and all night Friday,the 16th
While the women prepared the burial spices.
He lay in the grave all night and all day Saturday, the 17th(weekly Sabbath)..
And He arose from the grave just before sundown 6:00 p.m. on Saturday,the weekly Sabbath.
He arose exactly 72 hours after He was buried," EXACTLY 3 DAYS AND 3 NIGHTS," just as He said.
And That Was the Proof That He Himself Promised & Prophesied that would proove His Messiahship!
So Again, Who Are You Gonna Believe Folks. Mans doctrines & traditions??
Or the WORD Of YHWH?
The True WORD of Messiah or the false words of the world?
The Truth about the Resurrection after 3 days & 3 nights has been covered up from the start:
Matthew 27:62-66 Now the next day, that followed the day of the preparation, the chief priests and Pharisees came together unto Pilate,
Saying, Sir, we remember that that deceiver said, while he was yet alive, After three days I will rise again.
Command therefore that the sepulchre be made sure until the third day, lest his disciples come by night, and steal him away, and say unto the people, He is risen from the dead: so the last error shall be worse than the first.
Pilate said unto them, Ye have a watch: go your way, make it as sure as ye can.
So they went, and made the sepulchre sure, sealing the stone, and setting a watch.
Matthew 28 continues talking about the conspiracy-from the start-behind this grand delusion:
Matthew 28:1 In the end of the sabbath, as it began to dawn toward the first day of the week, came Mary Magdalene and the other Mary to see the sepulchre.
Mat 28:2 And, behold, there was a great earthquake: for the angel of the Lord descended from heaven, and came and rolled back the stone from the door, and sat upon it.
Mat 28:3 His countenance was like lightning, and his raiment white as snow:
Mat 28:4 And for fear of him the keepers did shake, and became as dead men.
Mat 28:5 And the angel answered and said unto the women, Fear not ye: for I know that ye seek Jesus, which was crucified.
Mat 28:6 He is not here: for he is risen, as he said. Come, see the place where the Lord lay.
Mat 28:7 And go quickly, and tell his disciples that he is risen from the dead; and, behold, he goeth before you into Galilee; there shall ye see him: lo, I have told you.
Mat 28:11 Now when they were going, behold, some of the watch came into the city, and shewed unto the chief priests all the things that were done.
Mat 28:12 And when they were assembled with the elders, and had taken counsel, they gave large money unto the soldiers,
Mat 28:13 Saying, Say ye, His disciples came by night, and stole him away while we slept.
Mat 28:14 And if this come to the governor's ears, we will persuade him, and secure you.
Mat 28:15 So they took the money, and did as they were taught: and this saying is commonly reported among the Jews until this day.
Now there are some verses that seem to indicate that the 2 Marys arrived at the sepulchre
While it was still dark before the sun rose...But THE SON Had Already Rose, by then BUT,
Just As HE Said, After 3 Days & 3 Nights. So HE was in the grave for a full 72 Hours.
The 3 nights of Wednesday, Thursday & Friday...The 3 Days of Thursday, Friday & Saturday.
Therefore Rising about Sundown after the Saturday Sabbath, but before the 1st Day Dawned.
There is a verse of scripture which would seem to prove that the Messiah rose from the grave on Sunday morning.
"Now after He had risen early on the 1st day of the week"..(Mark.16:9)
It is interesting to note that Mark 16:9-20 are not found in any of
the most ancient manuscripts.
It was inserted hundreds of years after the Apostles by the early Roman Church. The New International Version notes: The most reliable early manuscripts omit Mark 16:9-20.
Oxford NIV Scofield Study Bible Notes: Verses 9-20 are not found
in the two most
ancient manuscripts, the Sinaiticus and Vaticanus; but the passage is quoted by Irenaeus and Hippoltus in the second or third century (2 Roman Catholic saints).
The Living Bible Notes: Verses 9-20 are not found in the most ancient manuscripts,
but may be considered and appendix giving additional facts.
The Jerusalem Bible Notes: Many manuscripts omit vs.9-20, and this ending to the gospel
may not have been written by Mark, although it is old enough.
The New English Bible Notes: At this point (verse 8) some of the most ancient
witnesses bring the book to a close.
Revised Standard Version Notes: Some of the most ancient authorities bring the book to a close
at the end of verse 8
Phillips Modern English Notes: An alternate ending found in certain manuscripts follows verse 8.
Good News for Modern Man gives "an old ending to the gospel and then another old ending"
Bible scholars admit that Mark 16:9-20 are not part of the Bible...So why are they there?
It seems to me that it is an intentional deception. And it seems to me that Christians
Bought the whole lie, hook, line & sinker...But its not too late to repent of this abomination.
You can participate in the lie of the celebration of ishtar as the catholic church ordains..
Or You Can Follow The Commands of The Chief Commander,
The CHRIST, The Messiah, & Honor & Obey the Passover Lamb By Remembering & Observing
The Passover Lamb,in HIS Season. & The Ultimate Sacrifice That HE Made, on That Passover.
:prayingm:May :bow:YHWH:bow: Bless The Wise Who Hear:prayingm:
By What Authority do Christians Ignore Passover to celebrate "Ishtar"?
Posted : 6 Apr, 2009 03:38 AM
Hi Daniel,
These things used to drive me crazy, too. But the truth is, modern Christianity has some deep roots in paganism. If God holds it against us, then not many at all will be in heaven.
The Easter problem is addressed by most churches by changing the name to resurrection Sunday. You have to remember, the early church did the best they could. When Constantine made Christianity the official religion of Rome, the priests had to get the people used to a new and foreign religion, at least to most of them. The people wee used to celebrating certain dates and were not about to stop, so the church just changed the reason for the celebration. That is the reason we celebrate the birth of Christ on December 25th.
This type of study and research will drive you mad. Look at the vestments worn by the priests to this day. They are exact replicas of the clothing worn by priests in the Babylon mystery religion. The rosary was held by the priests of Tammuz as they walked, with the cross, or T hanging down to identify them and their God. Jer. 10 warns directly against having a decorated tree, Exodus 20:4 warns against making symbols, or images, like the cross, or the fish symbol. But we have to have those things, we think.
There are a thousand things like this, that will steal your joy, if you let them. Paul told us about the freedom we have by not being under the law, this included celebrating certain days just as he mentioned. But he warned that if we followed the law, we were obligated to keep the whole law. I don't want to be doind animal sacrifices when Jesus returns.
By What Authority do Christians Ignore Passover to celebrate "Ishtar"?
Posted : 6 Apr, 2009 09:11 AM
Hi Leon, long time no see, its good to hear from you again.
Yes you are so right, Christianity is full of old pagan practices, observances, & customs & costumes..lol
But I guess i have to revert to my chilhood training from my Mom who taught me that "just because everyone else is doing it, that doesnt make it right."
And though I cant think of exactly where it is, there is a paraphrased verse that comes to mind: "Narrow is the road that leads to salvation, but broad is the path that leads to destruction.
The slaughtering of a lamb by the head of the household for the passover meal is not a part of the Jewish Sacrificial Law...To a Christian I think it is actually more like becoming a New Covenant Priest by following the commands of Our High Priest. nd we do it in remembrance of The True Sacrifice.
The Lamb here is Representing Christ..Christians have no problem drinking the blood & eating the flesh (Symbolically)of their Passover Lamb as they do on the suns day once a mont or more...So what is the real difference here with observing the Passover??
I think it is so weird that Christians who claim to be under grace alone, still do at least try to follow the 9 commandments...
But when it comes to following the One Commandment that was established as An Everlasting Memorial to the CREATOR at the time of Creation, they completely ignore it by claiming that it is part of the Old Law.
And I am not talking about the Passover, I am, talking about the Sabbath Day Itself, which Command was even given a 2nd Time to HIS Elect even Before they Received the 10 Commandments.
But obviously thats a subject for a future post...Im sure I am already in enough trouble for now with just this one-lol.
Yea it was included in the old law too...But it is HIS Commandment for New Covenamt Believers too...
But it is too much of a bother in our world today to hold to such a teaching...
Definately much easier to go with the flow, down the broad path...
After all, it is established tradition by now to do our own thing within HIS Church....
Especially Since we have so great a cloud of witnesses saying that we can Love the LORD without following HIS Commandments, or HIS Perfect Example.
:prayingm:May :bow:YHWH:bow: Bless Those Who Hear & Follow HIS WORD.
By What Authority do Christians Ignore Passover to celebrate "Ishtar"?
Posted : 6 Apr, 2009 10:41 AM
Brother Daniel,
The verse you are quoting comes out of the book of Matthew.
7:13
"Enter by the narrow gate; for wide is the gate and broad is the way that leads to destruction, and there are many who go in by it.
7:14
Because narrow is the gate and difficult is the way which leads to life, and there are few who find it.
You are correct in many of your comments, in my opinion. I think a Sabbath day of rest is important, and should be observed. I do feel a little differently about Passover.
The Passover celebration was an indication of things to come (Jesus). Like the ceremonial laws, we no longer need them, we have the real thing. Passover was all about the coming of Christ, it is just that no one knew it until He came. Like so many things in the Bible we think we understand, the Jews thought, and still do think, that the Passover was all about the Exodus, or the events leading up to it. Makes you wonder how much more we have wrong today. How many of the things we do are really indicators of the second coming, and we don't even know it?
What concerns me more than anything else is tradition. Tradition was what got the Pharisees in so much trouble. Think of it from their perspective....this man comes up, tells you that everything you have ever been taught about God and the scriptures is wrong. Tells you unless you believe everything He tells you, you are not saved. I thank God I didn't live back then. I might have been right there with them, nailing Him to that cross.
Let's look at it from a modern viewpoint. A man, working miracles and wonders is gaining huge popularity with the people who do not know the Bible. Everyone who has studied it agree that it cannot be the Christ, it is only those who know nothing of God's word that believe. He walks around telling everyone, you have it all wrong. It was never about love or doing what was right, it was about having courage and not feeling guilty. You better believe me or you will burn in hell. How would we react? We would nail Him up! Well, that is what tradition does to our willingness to be open minded.
With very few exceptions, it was the unlearned who believed Jesus was the Christ. Sometimes I worry that we are in the same boat as the Pharisees.
By What Authority do Christians Ignore Passover to celebrate "Ishtar"?
Posted : 7 Apr, 2009 06:58 AM
We must also keep in mind that the sue of the word Easter in the KJV was used by Luke connecting the time of the year Herod sought to keep Peter in prison and to kill him after killing Jmaes. In Acts chapter 12: verse 4. Which lets us know that although Luke writes Easter, he is meaning "Passover" translated properly in the Greek, still means the same...
I really don't think God is concerned about what date or what we call any Hoilday Christian set aside to honor Him, just as long as we honor His Word and His marvelous works of His salvation.
I think Paul makes it rather clear in Romans chapter14: It is God who is able to make us stand. One person may celebrate one day over another, and another person celebrate some other day. Let each person be fully convienced in his own mind which day he/she will observed. The person who observes one day (Easter or Christmas, or whatever Christian Holiday) OBSERVES IT TO THE LORD, and he/she who DOES NOT observe such days, also observes what they think is to the Lord... verses 22-23: Do you have faith? Then have it to yourself before God. Happy is the person who DOES NOT condemn himself in what he/she approve(whether you celebrate or not). But the person who doubts is condemned if he/she eats or celebrates a certain day and DOES NOT do it by faith. For whatever is NOT of faith, is sin.
I think too much hoopla is made of all of this, to get Christians minds off of the reason for the season ,JESUS CHRIST'S RESURRECTION! And it is another trick of the devil to stop Christians from celebrating Jesus, left up to the devil we would even have Communion Sunday. The world takes time to set aside days they enjoy to celebrate that are pagan celebrations, and of no meaning. So what's wrong with Christians setting aside days to celeberate our Lord that have serious meanings and offers more to living and life than anything one could even ask.
As Paul states, if you do celebrate , do it according to the faith that works in you, and not because someone tells you that its wrong to or not to celebrate Easter or Christmas, because it is a pagan holiday. Celebrate the day because you love and appreciate what Jesus did on the cross for the remission of our sins! If it were left up to the world, Christians wouldn't even attend church on Sunday's since the world also says Sunday is a pagan holiday day as well. And I say, what days of the week, what day of the month, what month of the year isn't a pagan day? Including our own birthdays...
By What Authority do Christians Ignore Passover to celebrate "Ishtar"?
Posted : 7 Apr, 2009 01:33 PM
No Ella, Passover & Easter are not properly translated as the same word. And the word "Easter" was never written by Luke or, any other place in the Bible.
Luke wrote "Pascha"-"Passover", just like all of the other 26 verses in the New Testament that say "Pascha"-"Passover"...
Those verses clearly connect "Pascha" to the Feast of Unleavened Bread..."Passover"
It was the translators who deceptively but sucessfully slipped the word "Easter" into your KJV Bible. But there is no way in the world that they, or anyone else, can say that that word "Easter" is actually there.
Its Nothing But A Lie From Hell.
And that lie of the Easter Sunday Resurrection is also the only basis/excuse for changing YHWHs Holy Sabbath to the suns day too.
If you want to honor Ishtar in this season of the Passover Lamb then you have another god of greater importance to you than YHWH.
No one can Honor YHWH by making up their own rules & teaching others to follow their beliefs, if those beliefs are in direct conflict with YHWHs Truths.
Yahshua said, If you love Me, keep My Commandments.
Our Freedom in Christ does not mean that we are now free to murder, lie, steal, covet, & follow other gods until the day we die.
Remembering the Sabbath day was the Commandment that was even given before the 10 Commandments.
And yet you and many others seem to count it as the very least of the Commandments.
So tell me please, does your Bible also teach you that there can be a remmission of sins without repentance from our ways?
And with the Easter lie exposed,
So is the error of your ways exposed.
If You Believe Yahshuas Words, then there was no sunday resurrection. Its a lie.
He went into the sepulchre right before sundown & HE Rose 72 hours later, right before sundown, on a Saturday night.
This Sabbath issue was never in question by the Apostles...Not for themselves, or for gentiles who joined the Early Church. There was not even the slightest concept of rather Sunday should be considered as a replacement for the Holy Sabbath.
There were certain disagreements then, as today, about exactly what day the new month began on, as this was what established the Holy Days...And even disagreements over which day some of the Feast Days should be observed on.
And the Passover is one of those that causes confusion because some say the Passover meal should be on the 14th & some say the 15th..I think Pentecost is another area of confusion..on the 49th day..or 50th day?
This is the context that Paul was speaking in when he said that
One person observes one day over another day...and another person sees it a little differently.
There is certainly no reference or implication or any such argument as to rather we are free to celebrate unholy days like christmas or easter or halloween.
If you want to make tradition & fun things your god, at least do not try to teach others to do so too.
And the Reason for the Season of Passover has nothing to do with the resurrection, which we celebrate every day. But the reason for the season is to Remember & Honor the LAMB
by which Salvation was offered to Us by HIS Sacrificial Death.
The 1st Passover itself was established to provide for Salvation to those who obeyed.. But that deliverance from death was only offered to those who would follow the Commandment that was given to them by YHWH.
No wonder Christians are so scared of going into the tribulation.
Ella, you said, "The world takes time to set aside days they enjoy to celebrate that are pagan celebrations, and of no meaning."
Yes...It sure does Ella. But you were called out of the world for a higher purpose than those of the world.
But then you ask:
"So what's wrong with Christians setting aside days to celeberate our Lord that have serious meanings and offers more to living and life than anything one could even ask"?
Yes, that is my question too Ella, But that is My Question to you!
What IS wrong with setting aside the days that YHWH Ordained, instead of the days that the devil has established to draw us away from the True Reason for the Season?
But It is more than just a question, it is a command..A nice command, something that you are even confessing to right here.
You are saying right here Ella that you want some Special Days to Celebrate your special relationship with YHWH & Yahshua.
I am showing you one of the most special days of all YHWHs Holy Days...but you are not receiving it with gladness, But you are fighting it tooth & nail.
Opting rather to observe what you yourself call pagan days. And beligerently defending your presumed right to celebrate pagan rituals & holidays just because what??? Because they're fun, & they give you that warm & fuzzy feeling???
And sorry again, but Paul did not say "if you do celebrate , do it according to the faith that works in you, and not because someone tells you that its wrong to or not to celebrate Easter or Christmas, because it is a pagan holiday".
And then you ended your post by saying that "If it were left up to the world, Christians wouldn't even attend church on Sunday's since the world also says Sunday is a pagan holiday day as well. And I say, what days of the week, what day of the month, what month of the year isn't a pagan day? Including our own birthdays...
Well it is because of the "world" that people do attend church on sundays, because the "world" refuses to believe the WORD. So obviously the world does not say that sunday is a pagan day.
But many of those in the world of Christendom do say that those who Observe YHWHs Holy Sabbaths are no better than deceived pagans, lost in the law.
And then you ask one final question that tells me that you aren't paying any attention to anything that I am saying...
Because you ask "What days of the week, what day of the month, what month of the year isn't a pagan day? Including our own birthdays...
Well, I thought that that is exactly what this post is all about...
The Holy Days of YHWH that HE Established & Ordained in HIS WORD are NOT pagan days...
And the Holy Sabbath Day(Saturday), that was established by the CREATOR at the Time of Creation is NOT A PAGAN DAY.
And I will just ignore your comment about our own birthdays being pagan...depends on the person I reckon.
By What Authority do Christians Ignore Passover to celebrate "Ishtar"?
Posted : 7 Apr, 2009 03:50 PM
Hi Dan,
It matters not if you celebrate Easter, it matters not if believe in Easter, it matters not from whence the source of the word comes, nor does it matter if one calls it Passover or Easter, or Oascah, it matters not if its a pagan word, it matters not if its a pagan or a chritian holiday, the fact that will never change is that Chirst is ALIVE and died for our sins, and Christian all over the world celebrate His resurrection. This is all that counts! And the best part of it all is that no person on this earth can stop the celebration! And as Paul instructs, I will not get into wrangling with anyone over words, because it profits nothing, but is to the ruin of the hearers/readers.
I didn't spend graduate from a 4 yr. university, and seminar at the doctrate level in Biblical Studies, not know the information about Easter, or anything else that's in the Bible. But I count it all as naught, for the cross and Word of God in honoring Him. And I know some believe in the celebration of Easter, and I know there are those who don't. I know the information about the Passover and some believe in the celebration of that, and there are those who don't.
And as for what Paul writes about observing holy holidays, as one sets aside a day to observe to the Lord, according to their OWN beliefs and faith... Its imprtant to know that whatever day a person chooses to celebrate in honor of Christ, it is not a sin nor is it wrong! And if a person makes the choice to honor any day of the week as their Sabbath, that is not a sin either! Pleasing God is the key to all worship of the Lord, and if Christians care to celebrate the risen Savior on any day of the week, any week of the month, in any month in the year, why does that concern you and others so much as to try and turn them away from doing this? God hasn't appointed you, me, or anyone else to stop Christians from celebrating His resurrection or any day for His glory. Its not for your, mine or anyone's glory, but glory be to the Father for the good things He has done! In fact, many souls are saved on Easter Sunday morning. You can't stop such a great happening in people's lives as SALVATION!
So, I'm seriously trying to figure out what's your point and purpose of trying to correct every sentences in my post of my personal beleifs of celebrating Easter, with your thoughts of beliefs?... Celebrating Easter or Christmas are not sins, that places you, me or anyone in a position to condemn others for celeberating a day in honor of God, this is the pint Paul is making in Roamns chapter 14. This is where my faith stands. What you speak doesn't make what you say of a truth for me or others to follow according to your unbelief and lack of faith to celebrate Easter, by trying to back it up with only what another man has written. C'mon Dan...
Also, I thought I would search out these site and post them for those who are interested. Each author has their own views. I think if you read my comments without trying to fit what I speak into you own way of thought and beliefs, you will better understand, that the Church of the living God has chosen one day a year to celebrate the resurrection of our Lord and Savior, and that yes, I do believe in such celebration. Whether the word Passover or Pascha or Easter was mistranslated from the Greek, Hebrew, Latin, or English. There isnothing you or anyone can do or say that would chnage Christians from honoring Jesus Christ on Easter Sunday morning all over the world. You can't give any cause for me and million of other Christians to change our celebration.
Here are those sites in case you're interested since I know you like to read.
So Dan, You say Pascha, I say Easter, and others say Passover. What is the purpose of celebrating Passover? What is the purpose of Easter? And why do Christians celebrate Easter? And why do Jews celebrate Passover? For the same reasons, I would have to say. And had you read my post without trying to find something to correct in what I said according to your OWN beliefs and thoughts, this is the message you would have have received from it, when I said they are one as being the same. God through Jesus is celebrated on Easter, Passover, or Pascha, whether you say its meaning in the Greek , Hebrew, Latin or English, we celebrate because He brought Deliverance, Salvation for the slavery of the Jews and all of us, and the slavery of our sin, God/Jesus Christ did it all! Therefore, we celebrate EASTER, PASSOVER, or PASCHA,or PESAH for HIS DELIVERANCE!... EASTER, PASSOVER, PASCHA, WHATEVER YOU CALL IT, WE WILL STILL CELEBRATE THE LORD!... thank you very much...lol
By What Authority do Christians Ignore Passover to celebrate "Ishtar"?
Posted : 7 Apr, 2009 07:33 PM
I would think that taking any pagen holiday and celebrating Christ instead would be an "in your face" to satan. What he used to lure us away from Christ, God turned around and used for His glory.
By What Authority do Christians Ignore Passover to celebrate "Ishtar"?
Posted : 8 Apr, 2009 05:11 AM
Hi Linnie,
Thanks! You make an excellent point. As well as, the cross was not a place where any decent person would dare to be found dying, it was for harden low life criminals to die. But the last time I read the news of that story, a Kng who knew no sin, came from a highly respected family, whose name is above every name, died on the cross and turned the cross into a symbol of respect, love, honor and freedom for eternal life. What the devil meant for evil, God through Jesus Christ turned it all around and made it into good for His eternal glory.
So yes, Dan, I plan to continue to celebrate Easter and give thanks to the pagans with a program for founders day :yay::applause:
By What Authority do Christians Ignore Passover to celebrate "Ishtar"?
Posted : 12 Apr, 2009 10:43 AM
You go Dan! The lies of satan, the deceiver, must be exposed. We as gentile disciples of Christ are grafted into the covenant with Abraham, Issac and Israel's God. Isn't it just like satan to take the original that contains the blessings of God and twist and pervert it until we only have a form of godliness but lack the power thereof?
Why would he do this? I think it is because there are very real blessings in the original covenant. satan doesn't want us to be blessed so he twists and distorts the truth. Man has handed down over the generations a new religion called Christianity that now has only vague resemblances to the original covenant.
If Jesus kept the Sabbath, shouldn't we? If Jesus observed the Passover, shouldn't we? It is the same for the other Jewish holidays / feasts that God established and instructed His chosen people to observe. Jesus observed them all.
Unfortunately, most modern day Christians don't even know them.
