I know it doesn't say what the age is....i just need the scripture where it speaks about the age of accountability.I tried to e-mail you....but. your age settings prevented me.
I want to thank you for your kind words. Now you see what I was going through. They twisted your words and insulted you because you didn't agree with them.
Someone must have sent in complaints to the administrator....because he pulled my pic off:(
Is he going to remove every mans pic with his shirt off and every womans with cleavage now....or just mine?
I'm not sure what the scripture is, but as far as the other stuff goes I would say to just blow it off.I do feel a little insulted by some of what was said but I am not going to let it get to me.Your picture didn't cause me to lust or anything.So many verses cross my mind.If they had seen what God was doing they would have left one of my posts alone because it laid out the plan of salvation, and with as many people who had been visitibg that thread,someone might have got saved.God can take anything and turn it into whatever He wants.Thats what makes Him God.I hope some of them read this post and really think about it.
I doubt it....they are still riping each other apart! 10 pages now!
They are choking on a nat but, swallowing a camel!...lol.
If you find the scripture....let me know....ask around....it will help my friend....who I have been witnessing to:)
They are like the pharisees.......now they are saying that I am not as spiritually mature as they....or I would surely know that my dress is inappropriate...lol.
Maybe I am more mature than they....that is why such trivial matters are nats to me.....and the imature choke on such things while not being able to eat meat:)
I think this "Age of Accountability for our sins" thing is nothing more than church doctrine, which varies.
They might have looked at the example of Yahshua when He was 12 when he decided to depart from his parents & Get About His Fathers Business on his own...But that reasoning isnt really "sound" in my opinion..
I think 30 was the age of Maturity as the youngest age allowable to become a Sanhedrin...but nothing to do with accountability for our sins.
The best verse for the age of accountability for our sins was presented by the Question that the disciples asked of Yahshua concerning why a man had been born blind.
In Joh 9:2 And his disciples asked him, saying, Master, who did sin, this man, or his parents, that he was born blind?
It is obvious to me from this passage that the Disciples Believed (Correctly in My Humble Opinion) that the "Age of Accountability for our sins" begins even before we are incarnated into this specific life.
Yahshua went on to say that it was neither his sins or his parents sins that caused him to be born blind, but that he had been born blind just so that they could all witness the miracle of his healing that day...
But He never said anything against their obvious belief that
the blind man may have done something before this life that caused him to be born in this condition.
And I will just leave it at that...Thats the safest way you know. Let the Scripture Speak for Itself.
I appreciate your responce....but, i need the scriture where it mentions specifically " age of accountability ". I know that, that is the age.....when we become accountable for our own sins, is different for each person....as we mature at different ages.
Of course we all born with the sin nature.....but, scripture does not say that children when they die will not go to heaven for not being born again.
Until we have the knowlege of good and evil....right and wrong.....we are not accountable. Please tell me that you don't think when a child...or baby dies they go to hell.
I think the scripture I am looking for says something like....they have not reached the age of accountability or something like that.
I am just trying to show this person that there is an age of accountability....not at what age it is:) Your sister...Colleen
There is actually no scripture concerning this. Like you i have heard of people mention "the age of accountability" but never has anyone been able to provide scripture to support it. It may stem from some Jewish tradition, but it is not biblical.
We become accountable to God when we are old enough to truly understand right and wrong and when we are old enough to comprehend the Gospel when it is presented to us.
It is the same way when someone points out to you that while we have "liberty in Christ", we are never to do anything that abuses that liberty that could could potentially cause a fellow believer to stumble. That is why Paul said that if it offends his brother for him to eat meat, he would no longer eat meat as long as he was in the world.
Rom 14:21 It is good neither to eat meat nor drink wine NOR DO ANYTHING by which your brother stumbles or is offended or is made weak.
The same principle applies to what clothing we choose to wear. THAT is the principle that you refuse to see and that is why you refused to answer any questions or address the pertinent scriptures relating to your choice of attire. That is the area you do not seem to want to be held accountable for.
1 Cor 8:11 And because of your knowledge shall the weak brother perish, for whom Christ died?
12 But when you THUS SIN against the brethren, and wound their weak conscience, YOU SIN AGAINST CHRIST.
I hope that one day you will fully grasp this principle.
As far as I know, there is no verse that even speaks of the age of accountability. I did a scripture search in the most popular translations, and none of them showed that phrase.
I know it is wrapped in Jewish tradition. That is one of the reasons young men have to learn the Torah, and answer questions about it. The age is traditionally around 12 or 13, and I think, Daniel was correct in his reasoning for this.
I know this was not what you wanted, but it is the best I could come up with. There is also the matter of infant baptism that is associated with this. Some Christian denominations say that faith is a gift, and that Baptism is required to receive it, thus they Baptize babies soon after birth. They believe that we are born in sin (As David said) so we have to have Christ even as a child, to be saved. I do not agree with this, but thought it might help you understand the debate a little better.
I still do not think that the specific verse you are looking for exists. There are some similar ones like Matthew 5:42 where it talks of a sick girl who was "of age" & "at age 12" to get up & walk on her own...but I think thats just saying she was Not just a "toddler" who wouldnt be able to "walk".
There is a great dowloadable Bible called E-Sword that you can get for free...punch control "S" & put in your phrase &
see what you come up with.
As far as Children or Babies going to hell. No I dont believe they go to hell. I think some churches teach that a baby of saved parents goes to heaven & the baby of unsaved parents goes to hell. I dont believe that either. People dont go to hell. Souls do. Yahweh knows the condition & the destiny of all souls before they are even born. But that does NOT in any way nullify Free Will either. I am just saying that Yahweh knows the Heart of Our Souls & Yahweh is Just in all His Ways so no matter what circumstances we are born into, & whatever hardships we experience is by divine plan. But I still believe it is the condition of our Souls that Yahweh uses to place us in our proper positions in this life. There are Good Souls & evil souls & it has nothing to do with our physical age...But a Godly Soul would not be chosen by Yahweh to become someone like Pharoah of Egypt who was destined for destruction.
Rom 9:17 For the scripture saith unto Pharaoh, Even for this same purpose have I raised thee up, that I might shew my power in thee, and that my name might be declared throughout all the earth,
Rom 9:18 Therefore hath he mercy on whom he will have mercy, and whom he will he hardeneth.
Rom 9:19 Thou wilt say then unto me, Why doth he yet find fault? For who hath resisted his will?
Rom 9:20 Nay but, O man, who art thou that repliest against God? Shall the thing formed say to him that formed it, Why hast thou made me thus?
Rom 9:21 Hath not the potter power over the clay, of the same lump to make one vessel unto honour, and another unto dishonour?
Rom 9:22 What if God, willing to shew his wrath, and to make his power known, endured with much longsuffering the vessels of wrath fitted to destruction:
Rom 9:23 And that he might make known the riches of his glory on the vessels of mercy, which he had afore prepared unto glory...
I hope this helps...without opening too many "cans of worms".
