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Who will be the 200 million Executioners on Horses in Rev 9:13-21??
Posted : 4 Jul, 2011 06:17 AM
WHO WILL BE THE 200 MILLION EXECUTIONERS ON HORSES THAT WILL KILL ONE THIRD OF MANKIND IN REVELATION?? 9:13-21??
The 6th and next to the last trumpet plague {Rev 9:13-21}will probably come toward the end on the Great Tribulation and then 200 million riders on horses will kill one third of mankind. This will also occur after there will be a great multitude of martyrs in heaven with white robes fellowshiping with Jesus as per Rev 7:9,14,15.
Because of the other wars and plagues that will occur before this 6th trumpet plague let us assume that there will be about 6 billion people alive on earth at this time. Then there will be about 2 billion people killed by these 200 million riders on horses or about 10 for each rider.
Rev 9:13-17a,18: The 6th angel sounded his trumpet, and I heard a voice coming from the horns of the golden altar that is before God. It said to the 6th angel..."Release the 4 angels who are bound at the great river Euphrates." And 4 {Heavenly} angels who had been kept ready for this very hour...were released to kill a third of mankind. The number of the mounted troops was 200 million, The horses and riders I saw in my vision looked like this....A third of mankind will be killed by the 3 plagues of fire smoke and sulfur that came out of their mouths."
NOTE:The lost will also be killed by fire that will come out of the mouths of Moses and Elijah as per Rev 11:5.
Who will be the 200 million mounted troops on *HORSES* who will be commanded by 4 of God's angels?? in Rev 9:16-19??
NOTE: God's saints will also follow Jesus on *HORSES* {Rev 19:14}on the Last Day just after the Marriage Feast of the Lamb and they will destroy the armies of 666 as per Revelation 19:8-21
My guess is the 200 million will be 200 million Tribulation Martyrs who will be with Jesus in Heaven during the Great Tribulation. See Rev 6:10-12 & Rev 7:9,14,15.
Revelation 6:9-12: "When He {Jesus} opened the 5th seal, I saw under the ALTAR {See Rev 9:13b!!} the souls of those who had been slain because of the Word of God and the testimony they had maintained. "They called out in a loud voice, "How long, Sovereign Lord, holy and true, until you judge the inhabitants of the earth and avenge our blood?" Then each of them were given a *WHITE ROBE* {See Rev 7:9,11,14}, and they were told to wait a little longer until the **NUMBER**of their fellow servants {**200 million**??} who were to be killed as they had been was completed!!"
Rev 7:9,13,14,15a,17a: �After this I looked and there before me was a great multitude that no one could count, from *EVERY* NATION, TRIBE, PEOPLE AND LANGUAGE, standing before the throne and in front of the Lamb {Jesus}. They were wearing *WHITE ROBES*�Then one of the {24} elders {Rev 4:4} asked me, �These in *WHITE ROBES*�who are they and where did they come from?�� And he said, �These are they who have come out of the Great Tribulation; {Martyrs just like Jesus} they have washed their robes and made them WHITE in the *BLOOD OF THE LAMB* {Jesus}. They are before the throne of God and serve him day and night... The Lamb {Jesus} at the center of the throne will be their Shepherd.� :applause::angel:
Who will be the 200 million Executioners on Horses in Rev 9:13-21??
Posted : 4 Jul, 2011 07:21 AM
Hi Prophetic,
So we should be happy that we will be martyred?:excited: I'm not there yet...not into execution either.:rolleyes: Isn't there any other way? Do you think all christians will be martyred in the tribulation? I guess I'm not as spiritually ready as I thought...
Who will be the 200 million Executioners on Horses in Rev 9:13-21??
Posted : 4 Jul, 2011 09:16 AM
Read what the New Testament says about the martyrdom of Christians.
John 16: 2 says that "They shall put you out of the
synagogues: yea, the time cometh, that whosoever killeth
you will think that he doeth God service,"
Aposunagogous here is from Strong's number 656, meaning,
"excommunicated, put out of the synagogue.
Luke 21: 16 says: "And ye shall be betrayed both by parents, and
brethren, and kinsfolks, and friends; and some of you shall they
cause to be put to death." "Some" has been added to the King James
English in Luke 21: 16, because the Greek word "tis", or "men",
meaning some is not in the Greek Textus Receptus, from which the KJV
is translated.
"And when they bring you unto the synagogues, and unto magistrates,
and powers, take ye no thought how or what thing ye shall answer, or
what ye shall say:" Luke 12: 11
The reference to synagogues is not limited to Jewish synagogues.
Synagogues is Strong's number 4864, meaning "an assemblage of
persons, a Jewish synagogue, by analogy, a Christian church, assembly,
congregation, synagogue." Sunagoge in the Greek, or synagogue,
can mean a Christian church.
During the tribulation a number of Christians may be killed by end time wars and natural disasters, plus what would seem to be natural disasters but is the manipulation of nature by man. Strictly speaking, though, martyrdom would not be death from war, or natural events, but would be the deliberate killing of Christians because of their profession of faith - and when the Christian establishment kills Christians, it is done because these Christians hold to doctrines that the establishment does not like. Some of the scriptures above do suggest that some martyrdom of Christians will be done because of family, friends and the church.
In fact, some believe that a large scale war, which may become nuclear, may break out in the Middle East very soon, and it will result in some harm to the United States and the death of Americans.
Who will be the 200 million Executioners on Horses in Rev 9:13-21??
Posted : 4 Jul, 2011 12:44 PM
Bihara says: I don't think one third of the people on earth are Christians?? I certainly agree; 200 million martyrs is only 3 % of the 6 billion people that may be alive when the 6th trumpet plague begins and after 2 billion of the lost are killed there will be about 4 billion people left. The 200 million martyrs will only execute the lost.
shalom 716 asks: Will all the saints be martyred during the Great Tribulation?
There are some pre-tribbers who wrongly teach that ALL of God's Tribulation saints will be martyred during the Great Tribulation. This belief is refuted in Rev 13:9,10 & Mark 13:20: Revelation 13:9,10: �He who has an ear, let him hear. If anyone is to go into captivity, into captivity he will go. If anyone is to be killed with the sword, with the sword he will be killed. This calls for patient endurance and faithfulness on the part of the saints.� Luke 21:16: Jesus says, �They will put **SOME** of you to death.�{During the Great Tribulation} Mark 13:20: Jesus says, �If the Lord had not cut short those days, no one would survive. But for the sake of the elect, whom He has chosen, He has shortened them.�
God has always allowed His people to suffer tribulation and trials because they purify and perfect their faith and will gain countless eternal rewards when Jesus Christ is *REVEALED. There are over 40,000 saints martyred every year and the main culprit is no longer just Islam and the RC Church. Millions of saints were martyred because of their faith by the Communist atheist countries after 1917 in Russia and after 1948 in China and then in North Korea and Vietnam. Many more millions were killed by Japan 1937-1945 and by the Fascists in Italy and Germany 1922-1945. Romans 8:35-37: �Who shall separate us from the love of Christ?... For your sake we face death all day long; we are considered as sheep to be slaughtered. No, in all these things we are more than conquerors through Him who loved us!�
This will come as a tremendous shock for those who teach the Prosperity Gospel and who are mainly seeking earthly treasures rather than eternal Heavenly Rewards. They teach: If you accept Jesus as your Savior you have a free pass to Heaven and God forbid that you should suffer any persecution or go through the Great Tribulation; which fits in with the Prosperity Gospel and pre-trib doctrines which are designed to increase church membership at the expense of the Truth. When is the last time you heard a sermon on the virtues and courage of the many thousands of present-day martyrs?? And this is probably why there will be a great FALLING AWAY {THE GREAT APOSTASY} at the beginning of the Great Tribulation.
� Matthew 24:3,9-13:� The disciples asked Jesus, �What will be the sign of your Coming and the end of the age?? Jesus answered�.. {During the 1260-day Great Tribulation-See Rev 13:5, Dan 7:25 & Dan 12:1,2,7b}} �Then *YOU* will be handed over to be persecuted and put to death, and *YOU will be hated by all nations because of Me.� At that time many will turn away from the Faith and will betray and hate each other, and many false prophets will appear and deceive many people. Because of the increase of wickedness, the love of *MOST* will grow cold,{THE GREAT APOSTASY} but he {The Called, Chosen & Faithful-Rev 17:14b} who stands firm to the End will be saved.�
Revelation 12:11: "They {The Courageous Tribulation Martyrs} will overcome him {Satan} by the blood of the Lamb and by the word of their testimony, they did not love their lives so much as to shrink from death!":angel:
Who will be the 200 million Executioners on Horses in Rev 9:13-21??
Posted : 5 Jul, 2011 12:58 AM
This army of 200 million is not China. China emerges in the battle of Armageddon. This judgment will occur before the battle of Armageddon. We are talking about 200 million demons let loose upon this earth to literally kill one third of the people that are still left on it!
Remember, one fourth of mankind has already been killed in the fourth seal judgment. With one third now being killed in this trumpet judgment, 58% of the world�s population will now have been killed after this judgment passes. And the most amazing thing occurs at the end of this verse � it says that the people who are still left on the earth watching and experiencing all of these horrors still refuse to repent and turn to God.
Who will be the 200 million Executioners on Horses in Rev 9:13-21??
Posted : 5 Jul, 2011 07:08 AM
Bahira says:
Remember, one fourth of mankind has already been killed in the fourth seal judgment. With one third now being killed in this trumpet judgment, 58% of the world�s population will now have been killed after this judgment passes. And the most amazing thing occurs at the end of this verse � it says that the people who are still left on the earth watching and experiencing all of these horrors still refuse to repent and turn to God.
In Revelation 6:7,8 we see that 666 conquers one fourth of the earth with many miracles. However one fourth of the people on earth will not be killed. When the Allied forces conquered Germany less than 5 % of the Germans were killed.
the 200 million riders on horses are not demons or Islam since their commanders are 4 heavenly angels.
WHAT CAN SAINTS EXPECT IN THE FIRST WEEK OF THE 1260-DAY GREAT TRIBULATION??
According to Revelation 13:5,7,8: The Beast {666} will have authority over **EVERY** tribe people nation and language in the world for 42 {30-day} months {1260 days} and everyone whose name is not written in the Lamb's Book of Life will worship 666. 666 is called �THE BEAST� 36 {6x6} times in the book of Revelation.
Question: How will the Beast {666} and His False Prophet gain control of every nation of the world in the first week of the 1260-day Tribulation?? According to Daniel 7:24b a Roman King will subdue 3 kings. Rev 6:8; �There before me was a pale horse! Its rider was named Death, {666} and Hades {The False prophet who will cause people to go to hell or hades with the mark of 666} was following close behind him. They were given power over a fourth of the earth to kill by sword, famine and plague, and by the wild beasts of the earth.
NOTE: China, India and Russia are 3 kingdoms that make up a fourth of the earth!
Rev 13:4: Men worshiped the dragon {Satan} because he had given authority to the Beast {666} and they also worshiped the beast and asked, �Who is like the Beast? Who can make war against him?�
Immediately after miraculously conquering 3 kingdoms or one fourth of the earth 666 will appoint 10 kings who had never before ruled over the 10 most powerful kingdoms of the earth.
Rev 17:12-14: The 10 horns you saw {On 666} are 10 kings who have not yet received a kingdom, but will give their authority as kings along with the Beast {666}. They have one purpose and will give their authority to the Beast {666}. They will make war against the Lamb but the Lamb will overcome them {On the Last Day} because He is King of kings and Lord of lords.� {See Rev 19:20,21}
The following 10 powerful nations have OVER 50% OF THE WORLD'S POPULATION and ABOUT 70% OF THE WORLD'S MILITARY POWER and certainly have the military, political and �religious� power to control and rule all the nations of the world: #1. United States #2.� Russia #3. China {1.3 Billion} #4. Great Britain #5. France #6. India {1.1 Billion} #7. Germany #8. Japan #9. Brazil #10. Egypt. Brazil borders every nation in South America except for Chile. Egypt is the university, intellectual and theological center of Islam. And then 666 will have �authority over every tribe, people, language and nation� as per Rev 13:7b, from his headquarters in the evil city on 7 hills or Rome. The idea that 666 will choose a European Union of 10 nations with about 5 % of the world's population and about 10 % of the world's military power to control the world just because these nations are close to Rome is just an idea which is not supported by God's Word.
Revelation 13:14-17: �He {The False Prophet-Obama??} will deceive the inhabitants of the earth. He will order them to set up an image in honor of the Beast {666} who was wounded by the sword {On June 9th AD 68} and yet lived {Nero Caesar?}. He will have power to give breath to the image of the first Beast {666}, so that it could speak and cause all who refused to worship the image to be killed.�
�He also forced everyone... to receive a mark on his right hand or on his forehead, so that no one could buy or sell unless he had the mark, which is the name of the beast {NERO CAESAR?} or the number of his name 666!�
Since these 2 world-wide laws: To worship the statue of 666 {Possibly on TV} or be killed; and not being able to buy or sell anything; there will be a huge falling away among most of the people who claim to be Christians but are not the called, the chosen and the faithful. Moses and Elijah will begin their 1260-day testimony {Rev 11:3} 3 1/2 days before the coming of 666 & the 1260-day Great Tribulation and 1263 1/2 days before the Last Day. {***THE FIRST END-TIME EVENT***} Moses and Elijah will warn us of the coming of 666 & his False Prophet. �
In Matthew 24:3,9-13:� The disciples asked Jesus, �What will be the sign of your Coming and the end of the age?? Jesus answered�.. {During the 1260-day Great Tribulation} �Then *YOU* will be handed over to be persecuted and put to death, and *YOU will be hated by all nations **BECAUSE OF ME**.� At that time many will turn away from the Faith and will betray and hate each other, and many false prophets will appear and deceive many people. Because of the increase of wickedness, the love of *MOST will grow cold, but he {The Called, Chosen & Faithful} who stands firm to the **END** will be saved.� Rev 2:10: Jesus says, �Be faithful, even to the point of death, and I will give you the Crown of Life!�
God will miraculously take care of His Faithful and Courageous Tribulation Saints {Just as he took care of the Israelites for 40 years in the Wilderness} even though they won�t be able to buy or sell anything as per Rev 13:17a. {See Matthew 6:25-34 where storing up items are forbidden}� God's NT saints will go through the Great Tribulation without suffering the wrath of God, as did the OT saints in Egypt when God sent many horrific plagues on Egyptians because of Pharoah.
Jesus says, �You will be betrayed by your parents, brothers, children, relatives and friends and they will put some of you to death {See Rev 2:10}....They will lay hands on you and persecute you. They will deliver you to churches and prisons, and you will be brought before kings and governors, and all on account **OF MY NAME**. This will result in your being witnesses to them.� {See Mark13:9-12 & Luke 21:12,13,16}
��� Mark 13:11: �When you are brought to trial {DURING THE GREAT TRIBULATION} do not worry about what to say, for it is not you speaking, but the *HOLY SPIRIT*.� This of course contradicts the ridiculous idea that the Holy Spirit will be removed from the saints during the Great Tribulation. Mark 13 is a Tribulation chapter. The only weapon we may use is the sword of the Spirit {Eph 6:17} which is the Word of God.
I Peter 1:13: �Therefore, prepare your minds for ACTION, and set your hope *FULLY* on the grace to be given YOU when Jesus Christ is *REVEALED*. I Cor 1:7: �YOU do not lack any spiritual gift as YOU eagerly wait for our Lord Jesus Christ to be *REVEALED*.� Titus 2:13: �*WE* wait for the *BLESSED HOPE*�the glorious *APPEARING* of our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ.
Who will be the 200 million Executioners on Horses in Rev 9:13-21??
Posted : 5 Jul, 2011 08:47 AM
You said:
since their commanders are 4 heavenly angels.
But demons are angels. I think that these demons/angels will be released as the Scripture says. May be they were restraned...or prisoners before...who knows.
Who will be the 200 million Executioners on Horses in Rev 9:13-21??
Posted : 5 Jul, 2011 08:51 AM
Hahah Richard....funny comment:
NOTE: China, India and Russia are 3 kingdoms that make up a fourth of the earth!
Do you hate this nations? Hahahah. If yes, then you are a Muslim preacing Islam instead of the TRUE Gospel!!!! :ROFL:
Look what my friend said the other day:
In Saudi Arabia, when a person has been killed or caused to die by another, the prescribed blood money rates are as follows: 100,000 riyals if the victim is a Muslim man; 50,000 riyals if a Muslim woman; 50,000 riyals if a Christian man; 25,000 riyals if a Christian woman; 6,666 riyals if a Hindu man; 3,333 riyals if a Hindu woman. Today Muhammad�s true Islam continues to suffer as millions and millions of Muslims embrace the Christian worldview: �All men are created equal.�
It is not Islam that is dominating the world; it is the Christian�s ideology that is dominating the world; and it s forcing Islam to review itself. In other words, in today�s� world, it is not the Quran that is forcing the Bible into a corner. It is the Bible that is forcing the Quran into a corner. This can be explained another way: �Light dispels (chases away) darkness.� Christians are not incorporating Quran verses in their daily living. In fact in Christian homes it is almost a sin to touch the Quran -- a 6th century demonic book that can only be adequately lived out in the time it was written. That is why Islam suffers today; because for reason such those Muslims who adequately live out the Quran clash with the Muslims who are abandoning it as expressed above: �All men are created equal.�
Al-Bukhari: V7B63N187: Narrated 'Aisha: A man divorced his wife thrice (by expressing his decision to divorce her thrice), then she married another man who also divorced her. The Prophet was asked if she could legally marry the first husband (or not). The Prophet replied, "No, she cannot marry the first husband unless the second husband consummates his marriage with her, just as the first husband had done.�
In other words, the second husband must first get his sexual fill out of the marriage before the woman is allowed to divorce him and go to her first husband. Such decree can only be lived out in the 6th century which is all the reason Islam, after being forced into a corner, is compared to denounce (condemn) its prophet�s true Islam.
Christians can live in today�s world with their Holy Book, the New Testament, as their guidance. But Muslims cannot live in today�s world with their holy book, the Quran, as their guidance. In fact In Quran 5:32 Muhammad�s god restricts Judaism and Christianity to a religion of peace. It reads, �We ordained for the Children of Israel that if any one kills a person�it would be as if he kills the whole people�� In the very next verse Allah assigns brutality to Islam. Q. 5:33 reads, �The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His Messenger, and strive with might and main � is execution, or crucifixion, or the cutting off of hands and feet from opposite sides.�
That is why those Muslims who adequately live out the Quran clash with the Muslims who are abandoning it for what Christianity has to offer. Christians are not incorporating Quran verses in their daily living. It is Muslim who are incorporating the Bible verses in their daily living.