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Hear,take heed what you hear!!
Posted : 24 Jun, 2011 12:52 PM

You should know the word of God you are expected to know the truth, and it is not hard to walk in truth.



We always need to take heed to what we put our hear to hear!!



Jesus taught us the kingdom operates by what we hear and then believe and this is so critical, for if you listen and accept corrupted seed, or corrupted teaching's if will cause you to see scripture in the wrong light and yes in darkness.



Anyone that is born again has the father, the son and the holy spirit living inside of them, and something has to be out of order when one continually ignores simple consistent bible truth's.



It is not acceptable in the kingdom of God when we have as we do on this site a few that continually oppose anything that is of the truth, and then you watch other's fall for the lies, and agree with the unbelief.



The flesh will always say to you, some think they have at all together because they expose the vulgar lies and unbelief, but the truth is there is only one truth for any topic in the bible, and not several as some would like to say.



Gird up and do not readily accept what some say, get in the word and study to find yourself approved.



Hearers beware for those saying the truth is false, and the false is truth.



The word of God never changes, nor does it die, or expire, it is always the truth.

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Posted : 24 Jun, 2011 01:45 PM

Luke 6:20: Jesus says, "Blessed:rolleyes: are you who are *POOR*, for yours is the Kingdom of Heaven!"



Luke 12:33: Jesus says, "Sell your possessions:rolleyes: and give to the *POOR*. Provide purses for yourselves that will not wear out, a treasure in heaven that will not be exhausted. For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also!"



2 Corinthians 6:4-10: "As servants of God:angel: we commend ourselves in every way: in great endurance, in troubles, hardships and distresses; in beatings, imprisonments and riots, in hard work, sleepless nights and hunger; in purity, understanding, patience and kindness, in the Holy Spirit and in sincere love; in truthful speech and in the power of God; through glory and dishonor; genuine, yet regarded as impostors; dying and yet we live on; beaten, and yet not killed, sorrowful, yet always rejoicing, *POOR**, yet making many rich; having *NOTHING*, and yet possessing everything!!":applause:



Prosperity was part of the OT Covenant but the *NEW** NT Covenant is totally against the Prosperity Gospel: The NT Covenant inspired by the Holy Spirit also commands:



Hebrews 8:6,7,13: But the ministry Jesus has received is as superior to theirs as the covenant of which He is mediator is superior to the old one, and is founded on better promises..By calling this covenant "NEW," He has made the first one obsolete!!



James 4:3,4: "When you ask, you do not receive, because you ask with wrong motives, that you may spend what you get on your pleasures. You adulterous people, don't you know that friendship with the world is hatred toward God."



James 5:15 "Now listen you rich people, weep and wail because of the misery that is coming upon you. Your wealth has rotted and moths have eaten your clothes. Your gold and silver are corroded. Their corrosion will testify against you and eat your flesh like fire. You have hoarded wealth in the Last Days...You have lived on earth in luxury and self-indulgence. You have fattened yourselves in the day of slaughter."



I Timothy 2:9,10: "I also want women to dress modestly, with decency and propriety, not with gold or pearls or expensive clothes, but with good deeds, appropriate for women who profess to worship God."



I Timothy 6:6-10: "But godliness with contentment is great gain. For we brought nothing into the world, and we can take nothing out of it. But if we have food and clothing, we will be content with that. People who want to get rich fall into temptation and a trap and into many foolish and harmful desires that plunge men into ruin and destruction. For the love of money is a root of all kinds of evil. Some people, eager for money, have wandered from the faith and pierced themselves with many griefs."

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Posted : 24 Jun, 2011 02:19 PM

Starting with Luke 6:20:



For those that approach the lord spirtually:



Blessed translates to fortunate or well off.



For those that approach the word carnally or with the mind and the flesh



They will say it is a blessing to be poor, and in lack, the very opposite of the word of God.



Luke 12:33 the word always has taught that the man that gives to the poor as unto the lord will be blessed in this life and in the life to come. Whatever we do for the gospel we will receive for the gospel in this life and in the life to come.



Mr 10:30 But he shall receive an hundredfold now in this time, houses, and brethren, and sisters, and mothers, and children, and lands, with persecutions; and in the world to come eternal life.



2nd cor. 9:9 (As it is written, He hath dispersed abroad; he hath given to the poor: his righteousness remaineth for ever.

10 Now he that ministereth seed to the sower both minister bread for your food, and multiply your seed sown, and increase the fruits of your righteousness;)

11 Being enriched in every thing to all bountifulness, which causeth through us thanksgiving to God.



Notice what it says in context what it says to him that give to the poor, quit different from what has been posted.



your other scripture is not even in context of anything to do with finances.



Hebrews 8:6,7, 13 again is completely against your proclamation of poverty.



It is a better covenant built on better promises, you are saying it is less and that is better.



We also know the father is a God of increase not decrease.



James 3:4 is not concerning finances at all but it does expose the error, becuase if you ask according to the word, he will give you whatever you ask.



James 5:15 is rebuking the people for selfishness, not for being wealthy, love is never selfish, but not only that Jesus always taught it is better to give, because receiving is based on what one Gives.



Again the other scriptures have nothing to do with wealth.

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Hear,take heed what you hear!!
Posted : 24 Jun, 2011 09:00 PM

satan is the father of lies

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Hear,take heed what you hear!!
Posted : 24 Jun, 2011 10:09 PM

Yes he is the father of man can not respond to the Gospel, because of spiritual death, man has been and is able to respond to the word of God at any time and any place.



Satan is the father of all lies without a doubt, continually saying God's word does not say what it says.



The father of telling men they can relate to God Thru their senses and mind.

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Posted : 24 Jun, 2011 11:34 PM

yeah shame on them for using their minds,lol

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Posted : 25 Jun, 2011 12:35 AM

Thank you Prophet for you perfect post! :applause::applause:

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Posted : 25 Jun, 2011 07:39 AM

Just so you know Prophet one continual tactic of those that oppose the word of God is to post a scripture not in any way relative to the topic being denied. In otherwords of denying prosperity which in no way is limited to finances it is inclusive to every area of life upon the earth.



In other words continually saying that prosperity is of the devil, when the bible teaches poverty is of the devil.



Notice this example in context:



Then Jesus said to His disciples, "I tell you the truth, it is hard for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven. Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God."



Mt 10:20 And he answered and said unto him, Master, all these have I observed from my youth.

21 Then Jesus beholding him loved him, and said unto him, One thing thou lackest: go thy way, sell whatsoever thou hast, and give to the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come, take up the cross, and follow me.

22 And he was sad at that saying, and went away grieved: for he had great possessions.

23 And Jesus looked round about, and saith unto his disciples, How hardly shall they that have riches enter into the kingdom of God!

24 And the disciples were astonished at his words. But Jesus answereth again, and saith unto them, Children, how hard is it for them that trust in riches to enter into the kingdom of God!

25 It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.

26 And they were astonished out of measure, saying among themselves, Who then can be saved?

27 And Jesus looking upon them saith, With men it is impossible, but not with God: for with God all things are possible.

28 Then Peter began to say unto him, Lo, we have left all, and have followed thee.

29 And Jesus answered and said, Verily I say unto you, There is no man that hath left house, or brethren, or sisters, or father, or mother, or wife, or children, or lands, for my sake, and the gospel�s,

30 But he shall receive an hundredfold now in this time, houses, and brethren, and sisters, and mothers, and children, and lands, with persecutions; and in the world to come eternal life.



Did Jesus say or even imply that a rich man could not enter into heaven?



What did Jesus say to the disciples, the one that trusts in riches would have a hard time, and that is why the young man went away sad for his treasure was in his money.



Notice his disciples in awe because Jewish men knew they where promised wealth, they marveled and said then who can enter in to the kingdom of God and Jesus answered and said with man nothing is impossible, but with God all things are possible.



Notice what Jesus said to Peter when Peter said we have left all for you.



Mr 10:30 But he shall receive an hundredfold now in this time, houses, and brethren, and sisters, and mothers, and children, and lands, with persecutions; and in the world to come eternal life.



Jesus said to them the exact opposite of what you continually say, and Jesus knew the spiritual laws about giving.



He told them they would receive multiples of what they have given for the gospel in this life, now and in the life to come.

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Hear,take heed what you hear!!
Posted : 25 Jun, 2011 10:24 AM

why do men make "prosperity" a bad thing? why is prosperity given a title of "health/wealth" doctrine.



prosperity comes in many ways. We dont have to be millionaires to be prosperous, lol.



3rd John1:2 �Beloved,I pray that you may prosper in all things and be in health, just as your soul prospers.�



ALL THINGS...not a couple things or one thing...ALL THINGS



why is this scripture in the bible?

I think we have a hard time realizing that we deserve things. Not because of our good deeds, but because of who our Father is.

Knowing who you are is key.

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Posted : 25 Jun, 2011 10:36 AM

Matthew 19:29,30: Jesus says, "Everyone who has left houses or brothers or sisters or father or mother or children or fields for My sake will receive a hundred times as much and will inherit eternal life. But many who are first will be last , and many who are last {Poor now} will be first."{In Heaven}



Did Jesus mean that you would receive 100 brothers, sisters, children, fathers and mothers and houses on earth or when you get to heaven??????????? Actually in Heaven we will have millions of mothers, fathers and friends who will love us just the way we are.



If you believe you will receive 100 mothers, and 100 fathers and and 100 houses on earth you are one very sick puppy.



Luke 12:1521.33,34: Jesus says, "Watch out! Be on your guard against all kind of greed; a man's life does not consist in the abundance of his possessions. Then Jesus told them this parable:



The ground of a certain rich man produced a good crop. He thought to himself, "What shall I do? I have no place to store my crops." Then he said, "This is what I'll do. I will tear down my barns and build bigger ones, and there I will store all my grain and my goods. And I'll say to myself, "You have plenty of good things laid up for many years. Take life easy; eat, drink and be merry." But God said to him, "You fool! This night your life will demanded from you...This is how it will be with anyone who stores up things for himself but is not rich toward God....Sell your possessions and give to the poor. Provide purses for yourselves that will not wear out, a treasure in **HEAVEN* that will not be exhausted. For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also!"



Luke 6:20: Jesus says, "Blessed are you who are *POOR:angel:, for yours is the Kingdom of Heaven!":applause:



2 Corinthians 6:4-10: "As servants of God :angel:we commend ourselves in every way: in great endurance, in troubles, hardships and distresses; in beatings, imprisonments and riots, in hard work, sleepless nights and hunger; in purity, understanding, patience and kindness, in the Holy Spirit and in sincere love; in truthful speech and in the power of God; through glory and dishonor; genuine, yet regarded as impostors; dying and yet we live on; beaten, and yet not killed, sorrowful, yet always rejoicing, *POOR**, yet making many rich; having *NOTHING*, and yet possessing everything.":applause:



I Timothy 6:6-10: "But godliness with contentment is great gain. For we brought nothing into the world, and we can take nothing out of it. But if we have food and clothing,**WE :rolleyes:WILL BE CONTENT WITH THAT**. People who want to get rich fall into temptation and a trap and into many foolish and harmful desires that plunge men into ruin and destruction. For the love of money is a root of all kinds of evil. Some people, eager for money, have wandered from the faith and pierced themselves with many griefs."

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Posted : 25 Jun, 2011 12:42 PM

Prophet you have nothing to proclaim as you endeavor to make a gospel of your own.



How immature of you to say what Jesus said is not true, and then call me a sick puppy, sigh.



My Jesus says when you win one to the family, their are part of your reward, so as the original apostles go they would have received far more than a hundred.

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