Thread: The Children of God, respond to her please!
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The Children of God, respond to her please!
Posted : 22 May, 2011 07:39 AM
Brothers and sister,
I would like to ask you to address in your messages to this lady who claims to be a Christian. I think she needs your support. I will forward her your posts:
About her:
I used to believe like you. I have been both a christian and a muslim.
and fundamentalist in both for that matter!
While I questioned the hatred and the judgement of others, in both
faiths, I still held tight to many of the fairytales, mostly because I
1. Was afraid of hell
2. Afraid I might make a mistake and sin
3. would pray on my face so hard and long my sinuses hemmoraged.
What a pretty sight, eh? What a devout and faithful servant of god.
I had so many prophetic visions and dreams, that if I had a dollar
for each one, id be rich right now! LOL they all came to pass, some
good, mostly bad ones. And then, after forsaking ALL, starving, sick,
and NOONE helped me, I was accused of being a witch!
Both in xianity AND islam, I had folks tell me I had the path of a prophet.
Well call me Jonah baby, cuz screw that! LOL
call me thomas, cuz until God or jesus or mo comes down and
talks to me face to face, I can no longer believe in this farce.
I suffered WAY TOO MUCH, sacrificed WAY TOO MUCH, lost everyone
I loved to follow these pathes, only to be left empty, sick, poverty stricken,
lonely, and in continuous pain. And still expected to tithe, do that zakat
sssshit, etc etc. It was all about "take take take" and I never got anything
in return except some really sssshitty dreams and visions lol.
Her response to Chuck: I�ve been down that "crossroads" so many times, my feetprint are permanent indentations there lol.
I am tired of being thrown puzzle pieces with all the main pieces
not in the bunch, missing, like its a big joke for me to try to figure
everything out.
I have sat still and KNOW he WAS god. And all i got was silence, and
then some more really sssshitty visions and dreams lol.
I had converted my closet, LITERALLY into a prayer closet, and spent
most of my waking hours in there, when I wasnt at work or church, along
with endless hours of study. Things noone could see, I didnt want anyone
to know or see. it wasnt about that at all! It was about doing everything
possible in my capacity to show god I was still serving him INSPITE of the
sssshit life that kept kicking my in the butt. To say I "grovelled" before god
is an understatement. So how dare you judge me? who the �. are you?
It appears she is spiritually sensitive and has been under attack by spirits of religion by manifesting to her and convincing her it was her duty as a Christian to wage war against evil spirits. It is a evil trap many fall into, however not usually lethal unless one is extremely spiritual sensitive.
The Bible is very very clear on this; the battle belongs to the Lord, Jesus finished it at the cross! Even Angels do not engage fallen angels lightly yet many Christians ignorantly charge in like they were the One who came from heaven and died on the cross.
I do not see in Scripture anywhere where we are to actively engage the enemy, however there are many places where we are called to "resist" the enemy.....quite the opposite of engaging!
Fallen angels and demons are two different things. It would take a extremely exceptional Christian to be a match for a fallen angel, and a strong in Christ, operating in the power of the Holy Spirit to successfully tangle with demons and come out victorious. It sounds like this lady was neither of these, just spiritually sensitive and ignorant of Scripture,....a recipe for disaster!
Either this lady never was never a Christian in the sense that she put her trust in Jesus, or she accepted Christ and then tried in her own power to battle spiritual forces which were only playing with her, keeping her distracted, confused and from bearing real fruit. Eventually she just burned out because she was operating in her own power never knowing what it means to rest in the finished work of Christ by just sitting in His lap.
We are to come to Jesus like little children, resist evil and call God Abba (Daddy).....not out waging war as a warrior princess!
bahiraomar prove to me that god exists please. and not from a several thousand year old book.
- God could be seen if we will look at His creatures. If we look at the universe, we see how our God is all-powerful. Looking at a man, we see how our God is loving and perfect. God can be seen everywhere. How can we know our God? By comparing Him with everything around us/even with idols or false gods in the false religions. That�s why we look at Him what He did and said in His Scriptures and we know Him. He could be known by us and He should be known by us! Our God is LOVE and JUSTICE. It is His essence/nature. If we look at an Indian cow-god we see this cow and comparing his features with our God we clearly know that a cow-god is a madness and it is a madness to worship him in India. The same way we look at our God and we see that He is the Supreme Being- LOVING, CARING and POWERFUL. He is omnipresent and omniscient. So, we can see Him:
1.Through observation of His creatures (that�s why many scientists decided to believe in him, because they see Him looking at His planets, nature�).
2. God can be seen in the Holy Book called the Bible written many centuries before existence of the false religion Islam. Even historians trust to the records gathered in the Bible because it is our history is captured there.
3. We can see God dwelling in the hearts and bodies of some people who are born of God.
Have you seen him, has he spoken to you? (and not in visions in dreams)
- God speaks to people through people and His Scripture. If some of people say that they hear His voice then most probably they are just crazy. This craziness is caused by demons. And God Jesus is able to cure such people by His TRUTH. One of my friends heard voices in his head. He claimed to be a Christian but he heard voices for about 7-8 years. Is it possible that a person thinks that he is a christen but demons dwell in his head and body commanding him and talking to him? No. It is impossible. Demons can dwell in the body of people only if they are NOT Christians! They are nominal-christians or in-the-name-only Christians! And it is just a sign that this person was NOT born of God. Look at what my sister Ella said the other day:
..the truth always offends people, that's why it is called the truth� it brings us to our senses and out of our comfort zones, and should bring repentance of our sins and ugly ways.. The Scripture tells us the Truth sets us free, but what many people don't understand is that the truth can only set you free when you have received and accepted it as Truth, and be willing to make a heart change. Only then can a person be set free... If a believer is in Christ there is no way a demon can dwell on the inside of a Christian believer. It contradicts Scripture, Jesus says when a person receives Christ the Holy Sprit (the Godhead), they immediately comes and make His (their) home, and we are sealed until Jesus returns.
Demons can only live where there is no protection of the Sprit of God. Demons can torment the believers' spirit, and use a believer who is not sound or rooted and grounded in the word of God, but cannot live in a believer who has confessed and professed Jesus Christ as their Savior.
Demons seal empty bodies to dwell in, which means people who do not have the word of God as their protection. Weak Christians and new Christians are protected by the Holy Spirit, but they can be tormented by demons and unclean sprits of the devil, just as strong Christians can also be... When a Christians feels the presence of an unclean spirit/demons, we are taught to draw closer to God and the devil will flee, and we are to rebuke the spirit in the name of the Lord, saying Satan, it is written, the Lord rebukes you.
Now I'm speaking about true Christians...those who have truly been born again. Not those who profess to being Christians and are still in their sins not serving the Lord, but true Christians cannot house demons, but demons can attack Christians and torment at them and cause them to behavior in ways that are against the things of God.
They are not rooted and grounded in the word of God as they would think and have others to think. They have their own mind as to what God is teaching and they are not seeking to grow spiritually in the things of God, and the devil is using them to come up against everything that is true and acceptable of God. They have a false balance of God's truth this is why they attack everything we might say or others say about God and His word the truth.
Their hearts are being convicted and they must fight against it as not to receive it, because they don't understand nor know the true, to confirm or affirm nothing they say so they are being used and their mind are twisted. Much of this is because there has not been real repentance in a person's life and denial of the true about their sins, or the person is still committing sins and the devil will use this against a person to fight against truth.
So, when we are born of God through FAITH in God Jesus then the Holy Spirit dwells in our bodies and are protected by Him. And demons cannt occupy our territory because it is already occupied by God. If you have any demons in your body and when you will repent of your sins and confess them all to God asking for His forgiveness then through your FAITH in God Jesus all demons will be cast out from your body by the Spirit of God. They will abandon you because God will cleanse your body, your soul and dress you in the clothes of righteousness. You will be HOLY. It is a TRUE Christianity. It happens when you TURN your heart to God.
So, is God speaking to us personally? There is no need for it. He speaks daily when we open the Holy Bible and read and meditate on it during the all days of our life. So, God words are SAID. We need to read them. God can support us through other people and it is also God�s response to our needs. God does NOT talk personally or verbally as He did it before when He addressed to the prophets! But in some cases He can come to Muslims in a vision or personally to convert their hearts. But He is not making us prophets to frighten us. �only to serve other Christian brothers in the Church! And even in this case we should analyze what was said in the prophecy because there are many false-prophets even in the Church. They are those who pretend to be Christians but in fact they were not born of God and they say what demons tell them to deceive the elect people of God!
Aside from "feelings and emotion and HEARSAY (re: the old books)" what
proof do you have?- Islam is the false teaching and it was created by jinns/ demons/th fallen angels who are fighting against God. But God fight against them to SAVE you sister Freedom!
Try to TURN your heart to such loving God Jesus. He died instead of you to protect you!
For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life. For God did not send His Son into the world to condemn the world, but that the world through Him might be saved. �He who believes in Him is not condemned..� John 3:16-18
Freedom, please try to pray Him and tell Him- God Jesus this:
God, I know I am a sinner. And I am sorry for what I have done. And I turn from my sin now and ask You to forgive me. Thank You that Your Son Jesus Christ died on the cross and shed His blood for me. Be my Savior and my Lord. And be my friend. I want to follow You from this day forward. Fill me with Your Spirit. And help me to be Your disciple. Thank You for accepting me. Thank You for forgiving me. Thank You that I am now YOURS. In Jesus� name I pray. Amen.
I would like to address the young lady, I don't recall seeing her name,, so I can't call her by name.
Nevertheless, here is my response to her.
Firstly, I would like to say that God loves you just the way you are, but He loves you too much to allow you to stay the way you are... because He has greater plans for you in His kingdom to come as His daughter.
You know, I can relate to some of what you 're saying about being a Jonah, and having a prophetic word spoken over you. I had God's word spoken over me as a new born baby, as the woman who birth me was a well known prophetess in the community.
One thing you must know is, whenever there has been a prayer covering placed over you,or a word spoken over you there is nothing you can do except either accept it to be God's will or run as Jonah. And know that God will still have the last say in the matter if you run, just as He did with Jonah and many others who disobeyed His call upon their life.
I ran from God for years although I was raised in a Christian home, father was a pastor of a church and my mother was a missionary. I enjoyed being a night club singer in the world traveling places. But God chased me for years until I returned back to Him at the age of 39, and I have been in the house of the Lord ever since.
What I spriitually see going on with you is, that God chasing you back into His arms, because a prophetic word was spoke ovr you, and this you can't remove. You will either surrender in obedience or continue getting a beat down from God, that choice is all yours.
You are angry and confused at the same time, because when you tried to do right, wrong was present... and when you did wrong, wrong was still present. I know the feeling, but only God knows what you must do to get out of it. He is not allowing these things to happen to hurt you but to help you and bring you back to Himself.
I would like to suggest that you rep Plus, you're the one who is in disobedience, not God, so who are you so angry at youself or God.. Remember , God woul care less about how much anger you have toward Him, after all He's God and you're not... so get over that .
The start of your deliverance beguns with repentance of your sins beofre Him. and just spend time with Him in prayer in His mercy and grace. The prayer of the sinneris very simple, "Lord, have mercy on me for I am a sinner", when its from your heart, as David says repentance is a broken and contrite spirit and heart before God.
God knows when you are broken and not just pretending. And He is waiting on you to come to Him. Its not about what you get from God its all about what you give to God from your heart... and He will give to you His peace, joy, love forgiveness, and deliverance.
I asked God how to approoach you and this is how I have been led... just keep in mind, all that you think you have lost, you haven't lost anything, as Paul says all that he lost he counts it as dung. So know that it may seem as though you have lost much, but its nothign compared to what God has waiting for you.
We are taught to count it all joy when we endure harships and trials, because it is the testing of our faith, and refining bringing us forth as pure gold into a closer relationship with God. God exhorst us not to resist His chastisement because He only chastise those whom He loves... and this is how He does it.
He takes away those things we hold closer to our hearts than we do Him. He brings us down until we can know to look up to Him, and that He is our lifter-upper and when we obey He brings us through the storm knowing that we will not forget the struggle, and instead of justice He showed us mercy, and instead of death He showed us His grace.
So get back up and start all over again, knowing that the devil enjoys seeing you where you are, because this means you are not as stonrg as you pretend you are, and the devil tries to make you think God is angry with you or has forgotten you... but with God helps and through repentance God will renew and reestablish you once again, just as He did Jonah and me, and David and Peter and everybody else who truly repented of their sins..
For it is written; No chastening seems to bejoyful forthe present, but grevious. Nevertheless, afterward it yeilds the peaceable fruit of righteousness to those who have bee trained by it.
Therefore, (GET UP!) ... strengthen your hands which
hand down and the feeble knees and make straight paths for your feet, so that what is lame may not be dislocated, but rather be healed. Hebrews chapter 12...
So get up off your hind -part in the name of the lord, and put your life back together through repenting of your sins before God and seeking His Holy Spirit for power to obey His call as a faithful servant in the ministry.
Love ya, and May God geatly bless and keep you alays
this is the fourth time I have tried to post this... so hope it gets posted this time.. geeeezzzz, Bahira I hope you correct all my typos before you post this to the young lady... I can't type alick:ROFL::laugh::yay: aaaawwww, I found out the problem, it rejected the word alick
