The clear irrefutable truth found in scripture concerning man and how God interacts with him has always been the same, Words.
The word of God reveals God to mankind.
How does God draw men to him very simple, and this truth has never changed he draws mankind with words and man has always had the ability, choice to accept or reject God according to his words, this truth was clearly revealed in the beginning and has never changed.
In the 6th ch of John we see this taught:
Jn 6:38 For I came down from heaven, not to do mine own will, but the will of him that sent me.
Jn 6:39 And this is the Father�s will which hath sent me, that of all which he hath given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the last day.
The bread of life is talking or we can the word of life was sent to man, it is by the hearing of the word of God that the father has always used to draw man, the invitation is god's the choice is man's
Jn 6:40 And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day.
How does one believe on the son by hearing of him the word of God.
Jn 6:45 It is written in the prophets, And they shall be all taught of God. Every man therefore that hath heard, and hath learned of the Father, cometh unto me.
Very nicely summed up in verse 45 he that hears comes, some will hear and choose not to hear but the lord does not cast them out they will hear again and the choice is theirs again.
All the thru the Old testament the father was trying to draw mankind thru his word primarily thru the prophets.
Why are we to preach the word of God it is the drawing card!!
There is some truth in this, however Jesus' primary form of communication with mankind; the kind that even demons can't deny, was not with words but with action.
The greatest statement ever given to mankind was the death and resurrection of Jesus; the words to explain it fall short.
This is why Jesus is called the Word of God.
This is what my topic post (Subtle Idols) just before this one is about; we need to be careful not to put our faith in words but rather in the person of Jesus who has done for us what words cannot express.
Faith that is bible Faith only comes from the word of God, All that Jesus did on the cross is revealed to man in the gospels and the epistles.
The only way I can know this act was for me, is words.!!
The only I can know what was done for me is by words and the hearing of theses words and applying them is faith, the God kind of faith.
That is the living word of God found embedded in the bible, full of the life of God and the faith of God, the incorruptible, indestructible word of God.
The subtle idolatry of those mentioned in your post came from the hearing of words also, but not the word of God, but the word of God polluted by the God of this world.
Faith that is bible Faith only comes from the word of God, All that Jesus did on the cross is revealed to man in the gospels and the epistles.
The only way I can know this act was for me, is words.!!
The only I can know what was done for me is by words and the hearing of theses words and applying them is faith, the God kind of faith.
That is the living word of God found embedded in the bible, full of the life of God and the faith of God, the incorruptible, indestructible word of God.
The subtle idolatry of those mentioned in your post came from the hearing of words also, but not the word of God, but the word of God polluted by the God of this world.
Helen Keller was born deaf, blind and could not speak. When she eventually learned to communicate through other means she was given the Gospel and introduced to Jesus, yo which she replied "I already know Him, I just didn't know His name"
� Ezek 34:31 "....With their mouths they express devotion; but their hearts are greedy for unjust gain"
� Rom 8:26 "...but the Spirit intercedes for us with groans that words cannot express."
Sure words have power, limited power, the real power is what is behind them. Words are only the shadow of the realities that exist. Words fall short of reality especially when trying to explain or describe Spiritual things. This is exactly why words can be used for temptation as in the Garden of Eden, they fall short of reality and therefore can be twisted to describe a reality that doesn't exist .....In my opinion; Satans greatest weapon.
If it wasn't for the Cross of Jesus, it would be Jesus' word against Satan's word; it was the action of Jesus that crushed Satan and revealed his lie and the true reality.
This should be a lesson for us all as Christians :
� Luke 24:19 "....Jesus...powerful in word and deed..."
� Col 3:17 "And whatever you do, whether in word or deed, do it all in the name of the Lord Jesus...."
If Jesus had not backed His words with the Cross and Resurrection; He would be just another religious philosopher in the pages of history.
If we do not back our words with action and prayer; we are just another religious hypocrite in the pages of the present and history will not remember us, nor will Jesus.
(PJ this is not directed at you (unless the shoe fits...lol) just kinda got on a roll....it happens...lol)
George you propose to know the truth as if you where the truth, you make such an empty statement such as you did in this post, as always you are endeavoring to exalt yourself. I know what the word theology means and I also know how many, that throw it around use it as a means to justify what they say.
Truth stands on it's own no man's lie rapped up in his so called theology changes it.
The theology referred to George is reformation theology!!
George here is a little light for you, faith worketh by love and love is supposed to believe the best.
That is not in line with the word of God is not of faith or love!!
If you need more understanding, I will be glad to help.
Two I believe you said it well but as a wise man once said there are two truth's in this world in even heaven there is only one.
The word of God is perfect and it is also substance and has the ability to produce anything it declares, this is The Truth or the word of God which is revelation. truth
There is another truth here on earth and is is defined as carnal truth, in otherwords truth as far as man knows, but not in the light of The Truth.
If u don't love the Holy Bible which is the Word then u don't love Jesus. John 1:1 In the biginning was the Word and the Word became flesh and dwelt among us...paraphrased this verse.
We must love both. Although Jesus is the only way to Heaven when u rejec the Holy Bible ur rejecting Jesus. Don't u see cuz Jesus is the Word.
Why pick and choose. None of us were alive when Jesus died on the cross so some of us believe what the Holy Bible says when it states this but think we don't have to believe the rest of his scriptures in his Holy Bible.
God does want our love more than our obedience...but when u truly love Jesus with all ur heart and soul...ur also going to want to obey his Holy Bible.
Trust me Jesus has opened up a big can of whoop _ss on me when wanted to disobey his Holy Bible and do things my way.
We're all here on Earth for one big love test. Jesus gave us perfect love when he died on the cross in ur place and he wants ur love reciprocated. Jesus wants ur true love with ur free will...he doesn't want robots.
The thief on the cross exhibited true love for Jesus when he stood up for Jesus publically in front of all of Jesus's mockers and accusers. That's what u call true love. The thief received Jesus before his last breath and that's the only way to Heaven.
Jesus says I'm the truth the way the vine and no man cometh to the father buy thru me...praphrased.
YES mam well said and it is also again understood in no man can come unto the father but thru me or thru the word, Amen, maybe we can discuss this over lunch I am getting hungry, lol
Just giving you a heads up.....this section has been a bit of a meat grinder lately.....in my opinion a good thing...grind the flesh until it gives up the reins to the Spirit. There are some who have a white knucked grip on the reins of their flesh, yet their flesh continues to push through the bit to have its own way. The reins need to be in the hands of the Spirit only then will the flesh be controlled.
(Well that just took on a life of its own!
Back to the thread....
Muslims honor the Bible as a Holy Book and believe in most of it as to many people who deny Jesus as God manifest.
I used to think of the Bible as God until one day I was shown the distinction. Please don't misunderstand me, I believe the Bible is the word of God, but not the Word of God. In other words...the Biblebis a letter from God, not God himself. What would you rather have: A letter from your sweetheart or your sweetheart with you in person?
I do agree with you that we need both....however I like to dissect things to get a better look.
Btw, Imho ~ If this is a 'love test' ; we failed! However Jesus didn't! I think this about seperating sheep from goats, wheat from tares, good fish from bad fish. Perhaps the test is "those who admit their failure beg to be taught how to really Love"
(Just sharing my thoughts with a pretty gal, instead of these hairy legged guys I am used to discussing with)
