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upon request more Jew hating quotes from martin luther
Posted : 16 May, 2011 07:11 PM
"...you must bear a true and not a fictitious sin. God does not save people who are only fictitious sinners.
-- Martin Luther: August 1st, 1521
"Be a sinner and sin boldly, but believe and rejoice in Christ even more boldly for he is victorious over sin, death, and the world. As long as we are here in this world we have to sin. This life is not a dwelling place of righteousness"
-- Martin Luther: August 1st, 1521
"No sin will separate us from the lamb, even though we commit fornication and murder a thousand times a day."
-- Martin Luther: August 1st, 1521
"Whenever the devil harasses you, seek the company of men or drink more, or joke and talk nonsense, or do some other merry thing. Sometimes we must drink more, sport, recreate ourselves, and even sin a little to spite the devil, so that we leave him no place for troubling our consciences with trifles. We are conquered if we try too conscientiously not to sin at all. So when the devil says to you: do not drink, answer him: I will drink, and right freely, just because you tell me not to."
-- Martin Luther: August 1st, 1521
"The imputation of righteousness we need very much, because we are far from perfect. As long as we have this body, sin will dwell in our flesh. Then, too, we sometimes drive away the holy spirit; we fall into sin, like Peter, David, and other holy men. Nevertheless we may always take recourse to this fact, that our sins are covered, and that God will not lay them to our charge. Sin is not held against us for Christ's sake."
-- Martin Luther: August 1st, 1521
"your sin cannot cast you into hell"
-- Martin Luther: August 1st, 1521
"No sin can harm me"
-- Martin Luther: August 1st, 1521
Martin Luther was a hell-bound hate monger (Matthew 5:22), a cursed man who hated Jews (Numbers 24:9). Obviously the great Christian patriarch Martin Luther did not read Romans-11. Martin Luther wrote about the so-called "damned, rejected race," In his 1538 book: Against the Sabbatarians and again in 1543 book: On the Jews and Their Lies.
Below are quotes from Martin Luther's 1543 book: On the Jews and their lies.
Luther's Introduction:
"I had made up my mind to write no more either about the Jews or against them. But since I learned that these miserable and accursed people do not cease to lure to themselves even us, that is, the Christians, I have published this little book, so that I might be found among those who opposed such poisonous activities of the Jews who warned the Christians to be on their guard against them. I would not have believed that a Christian could be duped by the Jews into taking their exile and wretchedness upon himself. However, the devil is the god of the world, and wherever God's word is absent he has an easy task, not only with the weak but also with the strong. May God help us. Amen."
-- Martin Luther: The Jews and Their Lies
"He did not call them Abraham's children, but a "brood of vipers" [Matt. 3:7]. Oh, that was too insulting for the noble blood and race of Israel, and they declared, "He has a demon' [Matt 11:18]. Our Lord also calls them a "brood of vipers"; furthermore in John 8 [:39,44] he states: "If you were Abraham's children ye would do what Abraham did.... You are of your father the devil. It was intolerable to them to hear that they were not Abraham's but the devil's children, nor can they bear to hear this today."
-- Martin Luther: The Jews and Their Lies
"Therefore the blind Jews are truly stupid fools..."
-- Martin Luther: The Jews and Their Lies
"Now just behold these miserable, blind, and senseless people."
-- Martin Luther: The Jews and Their Lies
"...their blindness and arrogance are as solid as an iron mountain."
-- Martin Luther: The Jews and Their Lies
"Learn from this, dear Christian, what you are doing if you permit the blind Jews to mislead you. Then the saying will truly apply, "When a blind man leads a blind man, both will fall into the pit" [cf. Luke 6:39]. You cannot learn anything from them except how to misunderstand the divine commandments..."
-- Martin Luther: The Jews and Their Lies
"Therefore be on your guard against the Jews, knowing that wherever they have their synagogues, nothing is found but a den of devils in which sheer self-glory, conceit, lies, blasphemy, and defaming of God and men are practiced most maliciously and veheming his eyes on them."
-- Martin Luther: The Jews and Their Lies
"Moreover, they are nothing but thieves and robbers who daily eat no morsel and wear no thread of clothing which they have not stolen and pilfered from us by means of their accursed usury. Thus they live from day to day, together with wife and child, by theft and robbery, as arch-thieves and robbers, in the most impenitent security."
-- Martin Luther: The Jews and Their Lies
"However, they have not acquired a perfect mastery of the art of lying; they lie so clumsily and ineptly that anyone who is just a little observant can easily detect it. But for us Christians they stand as a terrifying example of God's wrath."
-- Martin Luther: The Jews and Their Lies
"If I had to refute all the other articles of the Jewish faith, I should be obliged to write against them as much and for as long a time as they have used for inventing their lies-- that is, longer than two thousand years."
-- Martin Luther: The Jews and Their Lies
"...Christ and his word can hardly be recognized because of the great vermin of human ordinances. However, let this suffice for the time being on their lies against doctrine or faith."
-- Martin Luther: The Jews and Their Lies
"Did I not tell you earlier that a Jew is such a noble, precious jewel that God and all the angels dance when he far-ts?"
-- Martin Luther: The Jews and Their Lies
"Alas, it cannot be anything but the terrible wrath of God which permits anyone to sink into such abysmal, devilish, hellish, insane baseness, envy, and arrogance. If I were to avenge myself on the devil himself I should be unable to wish him such evil and misfortune as God's wrath inflicts on the Jews, compelling them to lie and to blaspheme so monstrously, in violation of their own conscience. Anyway, they have their reward for constantly giving God the lie."
-- Martin Luther: The Jews and Their Lies
"No, one should toss out these lazy rogues by the seat of their pants."
-- Martin Luther: The Jews and Their Lies
"...but then eject them forever from this country. For, as we have heard, God's anger with them is so intense that gentle mercy will only tend to make them worse and worse, while sharp mercy will reform them but little. Therefore, in any case, away with them!"
-- Martin Luther: The Jews and Their Lies
"Over and above that we let them get rich on our sweat and blood, while we remain poor and they such the marrow from our bones."
-- Martin Luther: The Jews and Their Lies
"I brief, dear princes and lords, those of you who have Jews under your rule-- if my counsel does not please your, find better advice, so that you and we all can be rid of the unbearable, devilish burden of the Jews, lest we become guilty sharers before God in the lies, blasphemy, the defamation, and the curses which the mad Jews indulge in so freely and wantonly against the person of our Lord Jesus Christ, this dear mother, all hristians, all authority, and ourselves. Do not grant them protection, safe-conduct, or communion with us... With this faithful counsel and warning I wish to cleanse and exonerate my conscience."
-- Martin Luther: The Jews and Their Lies
"Let the government deal with them in this respect, as I have suggested. But whether the government acts or not, let everyone at least be guided by his own conscience and form for himself a definition or image of a Jew."
-- Martin Luther: The Jews and Their Lies
"However, we must avoid confirming them in their wanton lying, slandering, cursing, and defaming. Nor dare we make ourselves partners in their devilish ranting and raving by shielding and protecting them, by giving them food, drink, and shelter, or by other neighborly acts..."
-- Martin Luther: The Jews and Their Lies
"Therefore we Christians, in turn, are obliged not to tolerate their wanton and conscious blasphemy."
-- Martin Luther: The Jews and Their Lies
"Accordingly, it must and dare not be considered a trifling matter but a most serious one to seek counsel against this and to save our souls from the Jews, that is, from the devil and from eternal death."
-- Martin Luther: The Jews and Their Lies
"What shall we Christians do with this rejected and condemned people, the Jews? Since they live among us, we dare not tolerate their conduct, now that we are aware of their lying and reviling and blaspheming. If we do, we become sharers in their lies, cursing and blaspemy. Thus we cannot extinguish the unquenchable fire of divine wrath, of which the prophets speak, nor can we convert the Jews. With prayer and the fear of God we must pratice a sharp mercy to see whether we might save at least a few from the glowing flames. We dare not avenge ourselves. Vengenance a thousand times worse than we could wish them already has them by the throat. I shall give you my sincere advice:
First to set fire to their synagogues or schools and to bury and cover with dirt whatever will not burn, so that no man will ever again see a stone or cinder of them. This is to be done in honor of our Lord and of Christendom, so that God might see that we are Christians, and do not condone or knowingly tolerate such public lying, cursing, and blaspheming of his Son and of his Christians. For whatever we tolerated in the past unknowingly - and I myself was unaware of it - will be pardoned by God. But if we, now that we are informed, were to protect and shield such a house for the Jews, existing right before our very nose, in which they lie about, blaspheme, curse, vilify, and defame Christ and us (as was heard above), it would be the same as if we were doing all this and even worse ourselves, as we very well know.
Second, I advise that their houses also be razed and destroyed. For they pursue in them the same aims as in their synagogues. Instead they might be lodged under a roof or in a barn, like the gypsies. This will bring home to them that they are not masters in our country, as they boast, but that they are living in exile and in captivity, as they incessantly wail and lament about us before God.
Third, I advise that all their prayer books and Talmudic writings, in which such idolatry, lies, cursing and blasphemy are taught, be taken from them...
Fourth, I advise that their rabbis be forbidden to teach henceforth on pain of loss of life and limb. For they have justly forfeited the right to such an office by holding the poor Jews captive with the saying of Moses (Deuternomy 17 [:10 ff.]) in which he commands them to obey their teachers on penalty of death, although Moses clearly adds: "what they teach you in accord with the law of the Lord." Thoses villains ignore that. They wantonly employ the poor people's obedience contrary to the law of the Lord and infuse them with this poison, cursing, and blasphemy. In the same way the pope also held us captive with the declaration in Matthew 16 {:18], "You are Peter," etc, inducing us to believe all the lies and deceptions that issued from his devilish mind. He did not teach in accord with the word of God, and therefore he forfeited the right to teach.
Fifth, I advise that safe-conduct on the highways be abolished completely for the Jews. For they have no business in the countryside, since they are not lords, officials, tradesmen, or the like. Let they stay at home...
Sixth, I advise that usury be prohibited to them, and that all cash and treasure of silver and gold be taken from them and put aside for safekeeping. The reason for such a measure is that, as said above, they have no other means of earning a livelihood than usury, and by it they have stolen and robbed from us all they possess. Such money should now be used in no other way than the following: Whenever a Jew is sincerely converted, he should be handed one hundred, two hundred, or three hundred florins, as personal circumstances may suggest. With this he could set himself up in some occupation for the support of his poor wife and children, and the maintenance of the old or feeble. For such evil gains are cursed if they are not put to use with God's blessing in a good and worthy cause.
Seventh, I commend putting a flail, an ax, a h-e, a spade, a distaff, or a spindle into the hands of young, strong Jews and Jewesses and letting them earn their bread in the sweat of their brow, as was imposed on the children of Adam (Gen 3[:19]}. For it is not fitting that they should let us accursed Goyim toil in the sweat of our faces while they, the holy people, idle away their time behind the stove, feasting and fa-rting, and on top of all, boasting blasphemously of their lordship over the Christians by means of our sweat. No, one should toss out these lazy rogues by the seat of their pants."
-- Martin Luther: The Jews and Their Lies
"But what will happen even if we do burn down the Jews' synagogues and forbid them publicly to praise God, to pray, to teach, to utter God's name? They will still keep doing it in secret. If we know that they are doing this in secret, it is the same as if they were doing it publicly. for our knowledge of their secret doings and our toleration of them implies that they are not secret after all and thus our conscience is encumbered with it before God."
-- Martin Luther: The Jews and Their Lies
"Accordingly, it must and dare not be considered a trifling matter but a most serious one to seek counsel against this and to save our souls from the Jews, that is, from the devil and from eternal death. My advice, as I said earlier, is:
First, that their synagogues be burned down, and that all who are able toss in sulphur and pitch; it would be good if someone could also throw in some hellfire. That would demonstrate to God our serious resolve and be evidence to all the world that it was in ignorance that we tolerated such houses, in which the Jews have reviled God, our dear Creator and Father, and his Son most shamefully up till now but that we have now given them their due reward."
-- Martin Luther: The Jews and Their Lies
"I wish and I ask that our rulers who have Jewish subjects exercise a sharp mercy toward these wretched people, as suggested above, to see whether this might not help (though it is doubtful). They must act like a good physician who, when gangrene has set in, proceeds without mercy to cut, saw, and burn flesh, veins, bone, and marrow. Such a procedure must also be followed in this instance. Burn down their synagogues, forbid all that I enumerated earlier, force them to work, and deal harshly with them, as Moses did in the wilderness, slaying three thousand lest the whole people perish. They surely do not know what they are doing; moreover, as people possessed, they do not wish to know it, hear it, or learn it. There it would be wrong to be merciful and confirm them in their conduct. If this does not help we must drive them out like mad dogs, so that we do not become partakers of their abominable blasphemy and all their other vices and thus merit God's wrath and be damned with them. I have done my duty. Now let everyone see to his. I am exonerated."
-- Martin Luther: The Jews and Their Lies
"My essay, I hope, will furnish a Christian (who in any case has no desire to become a Jew) with enough material not only to defend himself against the blind, venomous Jews, but also to become the foe of the Jews' malice, lying, and cursing, and to understand not only that their belief is false but that they are surely possessed by all devils. May Christ, our dear Lord, convert them mercifully and preserve us steadfastly and immovably in the knowledge of him, which is eternal life. Amen."
-- Martin Luther: The Jews and Their Lies
Adolf Hitler's hatred for the Jewish people was inspired by Martin Luther's writings. Adolf Hitler was a big fan of Martin Luther; in fact Adolf Hitler even quoted Martin Luther in his auto-biography Mein Kampf. Many nazi web-sites even list The Jews and their Lies as inspirational reading along side Mein Kampf.
The peasants of Germany revolted in 1525 because of their miserable living conditions and were slaughtered at the behest of Martin Luther! Below is yet another great quote from the founder of the Protestant Christian Church.
"They should be knocked to pieces, strangled and stabbed, secretly and openly, by everybody who can do it, just as one must kill a mad dog!" -- Martin Luther
upon request more Jew hating quotes from martin luther
Posted : 16 May, 2011 08:20 PM
"peasants of Germany revolted in 1525 because of their miserable living conditions and were slaughtered at the behest of Martin Luther! Below is yet another great quote from the founder of the Protestant Christian Church."
James replies:
The above is a lie.
As for the rest of the quotes, I think most of them are accurate.
But, since most Christians are ignorant of Church history, we need to put some light on this.
First off, Luther did not hate ETHNIC Jews. He viewed them as theological enemies of Christ. When modern day Jews, or Icebros strange messianic group says that Hitler quoted Luther, they could care less about Judaism now being a false religion, they just hated ALL ETHNIC Jews.
Secondly, Remember Luther lived around 1500 and in those days, there were LOTS of anti-Judaism attitudes and writings around. Jews were suspected of kidnapping Christian children, and using them for blood rituals. Jews were also hated for Usury. They loaned money for interest, and in those days, if your cows died in a harsh winter, and you borrowed money from a Jewish moneylender, you probably would be in debt your entire life.
Thirdly, Luther softened his views on those who practiced Judaism, later on in His life. Luther lived in medieval times, and Jews were suspected of all kinds of crimes. Now, the list of quotes Icebro gave are all about hating Jews, but the book he wrote on this is mainly about Judaism being a false religion. If one desires to learn more of what actually went on concerning Luther and his writings about those who follow Judaism here is a good article to get you started:
And lets remember Jesus DID say that the Jews Killed the prophets, and he called them broods of vipers etc.
We are in no way morally superior to them, but lets not go to either extreme. Those who follow Judaism are lost and blind, and on their way to Hell. If God shows them mercy, and grants them faith in Jesus and repentance, then they will be saved.
But following Judaism today, after Jesus came and died for His people, is a slap in the face to Jesus. Those who practice Judaism today are not just refusing to allow God to rule over them, but they are actively saying that they REJECT Jesus.
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Posted : 17 May, 2011 06:12 AM
Icebro, I have one question for you, are you completely without prejudice. It's easy to put dead people down and say that they are prejudice, especially when they've been dead for years and cannot answer for themselves. But it's much harder to take a look at ourselves and find the areas in ourselves that are biased and displeasing to God.
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Posted : 17 May, 2011 08:35 AM
two sparrows requested context ,,yeah i agree i look at my life too,,:devil:
funny though how you guys are quick to defend a guy that you don't really know either? what if his heart was full of hate and look you are defending him,,i did not tell this guy to write these things he did all on his own
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Posted : 17 May, 2011 10:16 AM
I can't speak for others, but I HAVE read a LOT of Luther.
There were radical Reformers like the Anabaptists, who killed priests and burned churches and started violent revolts.
Luther was hiding at the time, and there was a death penalty on his head, by the Roman Catholic church.
When Luther came back to his home town, he pleaded with the anabaptists to stop the violence.
Luthers final straw with the Roman Catholic church was because of the selling of indulgences.
You had priests finding women who just a lost a child in childbirth, and they were telling these women that their child was "in the flames of purgatory" ,and if they just sold everything they had, and would buy a piece of paper signed by the Pope, that their child would be instantly put in heaven!!
Indulgences can STILL be bought TODAY! But that kind of disgusting behavior was the last straw and Luther put his life on the line because of it.
When you look at the two main figures of the Reformation, John Calvin and Martin Luther, they were VERY different men.
Both men were brilliant theologians, and put their very lives on the line more than once to defend the truth of God. But Calvin was quiet, and never talked about Himself. Luther was a character, and QUITE emotional, and Earthy to say the least.
So, I am not defending a man I know nothing about.
I differ with Luther on the Lord's supper, and I disagree with Luther on the connection between church and state, and I Consider those who practice Judaism to be lost, just like anyone else following a false religion. Luther wanted the book of James declared to be not the word of God. No one took him seriously, and I believe the book of James IS the Word of God.
But, Luther was RIGHT about justification by faith, which is the center of the Christian faith. Luther was RIGHT about fallen man being TOTALLY UNABLE to come to Jesus. He literally started the Reformation and was greatly used by God.
Was he perfect? NO. NO ONE IS.
I am glad you posted all these comments. I just hope you KEEP ON posting concerning church history.
If you just stop now, Icebro, I will just think that you belong to some Messianic group that has, at best, profoundly messed up theology, and your only point is to slam the historic Christian faith.
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Posted : 17 May, 2011 12:15 PM
I'm not sure why this conversation came up, but let's play ball! Ok, 1st, SirJames, I'm not sure that reading about someones view of someone else, outside of the Bible, is an accurate outlook on their intentions. And "everybody else was racist" IS NOT A DEFENSE. Seriously... 2nd, protestants claim that the Bible was assembled through Gods will. That He is responsible for the Catholic church, and that man perverted it. So why is it hard to believe that martin isn't a man? Learn to admit fault. Humble yourselves. I'm not proud of the popes stand on the germans during WWII. I'm not proud of the Crusades. But I own it. I'm not perfect, and neither are the followers of my faith. But I am quick to call them out on it. So if martin did say these things, why would you not own it? My God calls on me to be compassionate. He doesn't tyraide like the band Earth Crisis when they call on vegan straight-edgers to burn down McDonalds. He wants me to be understanding, but not accepting of others and their differences. That's how Jesus made the impression that he did with tax collectors and hookers, and why we should be brining others to God by what we do, not what we say. Loving all, regardless of their belief system, or what they do to me. Then again, I'm not in leading a group of christians in the name of Christ. I think that demands more responsibility, and others feel the same way. That's why there is a charge quaintly named "inciting a riot"for people who preach burning of property. So I understand that I'm more Christlike than churchlike, and maybe that's not very Catholic. But God made me ornery, and I can't sit back while others deffend a biggot for spreading hate, regardless of his good works. 3rd, I'm not sure how this discussion, icebro, but I understand wanting to spark debate. It means we are thinking and getting to know our faith, and thus we walk closer with Him. But there might be a question in your "presentation". If you had worded it at the introduction of this post a lil better, it might not seem so inflamatory. Stay up, brothers...
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Posted : 17 May, 2011 02:30 PM
Outofstep said:
I'm not sure why this conversation came up, but let's play ball! Ok, 1st, SirJames, I'm not sure that reading about someones view of someone else, outside of the Bible, is an accurate outlook on their intentions.
James replies:
One should read more than one historians account, and more than one scholars opinion.
Outofstep said:
And "everybody else was racist" IS NOT A DEFENSE.
James replies: As I said before.......Luther hated JUDAISM, and not people who were ethnic Jews. So, NO ONE used "everyone was a racist" as a defense. What we have is Icebro, who has not put his cards on the table, and as far as we can guess belongs to a group that is a mixture of Christianity and Judaism.
He put up quotes that Jews find offensive from a book that Luther wrote. The problem is, that he and the website he got the quotes from, never mention the theological points of the book.
Outofstep said:
Seriously... 2nd, protestants claim that the Bible was assembled through Gods will. That He is responsible for the Catholic church, and that man perverted it.
James replies:
I am not sure what the formation of the canon has to do with this discussion. The protestant view is that the Bible is a fallible collection of infallible books. I think the early church got it right concerning the Canon, and there has been no serious challenge to it since about 300AD.
God is responsible for the Catholic church? Well, if you mean the universal church, then yes. God chose His people before the foundation of the world. But if you mean ROMAN Catholic church, then NO. What you had with Rome, was in the beginning a Christian church, and then gradually adding things that were not in Scripture, and then contradicting things in Scripture, and by 600AD an apostate body. It has been an apostate body since then, and the council of Trent sealed that fate for good.
Outofstep said:
So why is it hard to believe that martin isn't a man? Learn to admit fault. Humble yourselves. I'm not proud of the popes stand on the germans during WWII. I'm not proud of the Crusades.
James replies:
The crusades were a defensive war, and therefore JUST.
Yes, there were atrocities, but the reason for going to war in the first place was to remove the evil of Islam. My how things have changed.
Outofstep said:
But I own it. I'm not perfect, and neither are the followers of my faith. But I am quick to call them out on it. So if martin did say these things, why would you not own it?
James replies:
I only pointed out that ONE statement was wrong.
Outofstep continues:
My God calls on me to be compassionate. He doesn't tyraide like the band Earth Crisis when they call on vegan straight-edgers to burn down McDonalds. He wants me to be understanding, but not accepting of others and their differences. That's how Jesus made the impression that he did with tax collectors and hookers, and why we should be brining others to God by what we do, not what we say. Loving all, regardless of their belief system, or what they do to me. Then again, I'm not in leading a group of christians in the name of Christ. I think that demands more responsibility, and others feel the same way. That's why there is a charge quaintly named "inciting a riot"for people who preach burning of property. So I understand that I'm more Christlike than churchlike, and maybe that's not very Catholic. But God made me ornery, and I can't sit back while others deffend a biggot for spreading hate, regardless of his good works.
James replies:
Again, I would point out that it was JUDAISM, not ETHNIC Jews that Luther hated.
Outofstep continues:
3rd, I'm not sure how this discussion, icebro, but I understand wanting to spark debate. It means we are thinking and getting to know our faith, and thus we walk closer with Him. But there might be a question in your "presentation". If you had worded it at the introduction of this post a lil better, it might not seem so inflamatory. Stay up, brothers...
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Posted : 17 May, 2011 03:27 PM
Hillarious! Ok, I will type fast to get it all down before I get dropped again... 1st, you can read everything there is about alexander, but you will never know for certin what drove him to conquer. What he said would give you an inkling, but never everything. 2nd, martin said "burn their schools", "raze their houses", don't grant them protection, and kick them out of the country. Wether racist or biggoted, its hate. So why are you defending it? Whatever the time period, its hate. My God doesn't call on me to do that, sorry.