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Posted : 12 Aug, 2009 01:22 AM

I just saw a profile from a man who stated under denomination he was Latter day saint of j.c.

my understanding is this religion is not a denomination of Christianity. If that is the case, why is he being allowed to be a member? It is also curious he was able to "post" that description as a choice, since after double checking, that cult is not an option.

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Posted : 12 Aug, 2009 06:20 AM

MY SISTER, JUST AS SOCIETY IS IN GENERAL, CDFF IS ALSO FILLED WITH BOTH BELIEVING AND NON BELIEVING CHRISTIANS/FOLLOWERS OF CHRIST. I AM NOT SAYING THAT THE PERSON YOU ARE REFERING TO IS A NON BELIEVER THOUGH, ONLY GOD KNOWS.



PEOPLE ARE, UNDER OTHER, AS IN, IF YOU CLICK OTHER, WITHIN THE DENOMINATION SELECTION SECTION, ALLOWED TO TYPE THEIR OWN DENOMINATION. IF YOU CLICK ON OTHER, YOU WILL NOTICE WHAT I AM TALKING ABOUT.



ALSO, IT LOOKED AS THOUGH YOU IMPLIED THAT THIS PERSON, BASED ON THE NATURE OF THEIR DENOMINATION, IS PART OF A CULT. AS YOU KNOW, WE HAVE NOT BEEN GIVEN THE AUTHORITY TO JUDGE (MATTHEW 7:1-2), SO PLEASE BE CAREFUL NOT TO JUDGE AND OR GENDER STRIFE.



TRUST ME, I HAVE SEEN LOADS OF DENOMINATIONS THAT ARE NOT COMMON, BUT IT DOES NOT MEAN THAT SUCH ARE NOT WELCOME OR THAT SUCH DO NOT BELONG TO JESUS. IN PARTICULAR, I HAVE COME ACROSS MANY THAT HAVE TYPED THEIR DENOMINATION AS, �FOLLOWER OF JESUS, ISN�T THAT WHAT MATTERS?�, AND YES THAT IS ALL THAT MATTERS. OTHERS HAVE PUT, �IN A RELATIONSHIP WITH CHRIST�.



PERSONALLY, I SEE NOTHING WRONG WITH THAT, IF THE MODERATORS SEE SOMETHING WRONG WITH THAT, YOU KNOW THAT THEY WILL TAKE THE APROPIATE COURSE OF ACTION.



IN ADDITION, WHEN THE DAY OF JUDGEMENT IS UPON US, WE WOULD NOT BE JUDGED ON WHAT DENOMINATION WE WERE, BUT ON THE CONTENTS OF OUR HEARTS. ROMANS 2:16 SAYS, �On that day when, according to my gospel, God judges the secrets of men by Christ Jesus�.



2 JOHN 1:9

Everyone who goes on ahead and does not abide in the teaching of Christ, does not have God. Whoever abides in the teaching has both the Father and the Son.





MATTHEW 7:21-23

�Not everyone who says to me, �Lord, Lord,� will enter the kingdom of heaven, but the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. On that day many will say to me, �Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and cast out demons in your name, and do many mighty works in your name?� And then will I declare to them, �I never knew you; depart from me, you workers of lawlessness.�





FROM THE TWO VERSES, JUST ABOVE, WE CAN SEE THAT THEIR IS NO MENTION OF DENOMINATIONS, THE REQUIREMNT AND THE DUTY IS TO ABIDE BY THE LORDS TEACHING AND TO DO THE WILL OF GOD.SIMPLE, WITH NO ADDITIONS.



IN ALL HONESTY, I PERSONALLY PUT PENTECOSTAL AS MY PROFILE DENOMINATION BECAUSE I GREW UP IN A PENTECOSTAL CHURCH, IN ACTUAL FACT, I MYSELF DONT REALLY BELONG TO ANY OF THE MENTIONED DENOMINATIONS, THE ONLY CIRCLE I TRULY BELONG TO, IS THE CIRCLE BETWEEN ME AND JESUS. :yay:



I JUST WANT TO ALSO CLARIFY THAT BELONGING TO A DENOMINATION IS NOT WRONG AND YOU WILL SEE WHY IN THE VERSE THAT FOLLOWS THIS PARAGRAPH.





ROMANS 12:4-5

Just as each of us has one body with many members, and these members do not all have the same function, so in Christ we who are many form one body, and each member belongs to all the others





MY SISTER, IF YOU STILL THINK THAT SOMETHING IS NOT RIGHT, THE CDFF CONTACT DETAILS ARE AVAILABLE, SO YOU CAN CONTACT THEM, BUT AS I SAID, PERSONALLY, I DONT SEE ANYTHING WRONG IN THE PERSONS DENOMINATION.

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Posted : 12 Aug, 2009 06:22 AM

AND SISTER GOLDEN, MY APOLOGIES FOR WRITING ANOTHER ESSAY, I JUST CANT HELP MYSELF, LOL.

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Posted : 12 Aug, 2009 06:26 AM

LEST I FORGET, IF YOU DONT ALREADY KNOW, j.c OR JC, STANDS FOR JESUS CHRIST.

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Posted : 12 Aug, 2009 11:28 AM

Kristian, wow... I must disagree with you greatly. Jesus Christ Himself actually CONDONED judging. What non-Christians love to do and even some Christians, is tell us we are not supposed to judge.



The Scripture you gave in Matthew is talking about HYPOCRITICAL JUDGMENT. If you actually read onward from Matthew 7, Jesus says you shouldn't judge if you have a beam in your own eye and you're judging your neighbor. Read John 7:24.



"Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment."



And of course 1 Corinthians 2:15.



"But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man."



We are allowed to judge something or someone if it aligns with what the Word of God says on an issue. I'm so sick of this "weak" Christian attitude that people bombard us with. We're supposed to fight, not sit back and be tolerant of everything. That is not loving, and that's not how the early Christians of Antioch were either.

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Posted : 12 Aug, 2009 01:03 PM

WOW, THANKS LEGEND, I HAVE NEVER COME ACROSS JOHN 7:24 AND 1 CORINTHIANS 2:15.



REGARDING JOHN 7:24 AND BASED ON YOUR COMMENTS, I NOW UNDERSTAND THAT JUDGING, WITH SCRIPTURAL APPLICATION IS PERMITED BY JESUS. THANKS FOR LETTING ME KNOW.



I HAVE READ ON FROM MATTHEW 7:7 AND I AM ALREADY AWARE OF WHAT JESUS SAID ABOUT JUDGING WHILST HAVING A BEAM OR WHAT IS COMMONLY KNOWN AS SAWDUST IN ONES EYE, WHICH IS WHY I WAS CAREFUL TO NOT JUDGE GOLDEN, I ONLY STATED THAT SHE SHOULD BE CAREFUL NOT TO JUDGE, I DID NOT PRECISELY SAY THAT SHE JUDGED HIM, PLEASE READ MY COMMENTS AGAIN.



IN ADDITION, NO OFFENCE TO GOLDEN, BUT HOW CAN YOU BE SO SURE THAT SHE HERSELF OR ANYONE ELSE FOR THAT MATTER, IS COMPLETELY FREE OF ANY BEAM IN THEIR EYE AND IS COMPLETELY SPIRITUAL? FOR THIS REASON, 1 CORINTHIANS 2:15, IS A VERSE THAT I DONT REALLY WANT TO TAMPER WITH, AFTERALL, FALSE PROPHETS ARE AMONG US AND IM NOT SAYING THAT ANYONE IS A FALSE PROPHET BUT THE BIBLE DOES TALK ABOUT FALSE PROPHETS EMERGING GREATLY IN THE LAST DAYS. BASICALLY, GOD IS ONLY TO BE TRUSTED.



I THINK 1 CORINTHIANS 2:15 HAS RELEVANCE BUT CAN EASILY LEAD TO CHRISTIANS AND NON CHRISTIANS ABUSING THE VERSE BECAUSE ANYONE CAN TURN AROUND AND CLAIM TO BE SPIRITUAL, WHICH IS WHY I SAID THAT SUCH A VERSE, AS MUCH AS I BELIEVE EVERY INCH OF IT, I DONT WANT TO TAMPER WITH AND I DONT THINK YOU SHOULD EITHER.



AT THE SAME TIME, NO ONE IS PERFECT INCLUDING THE PERSON WITH THE DENOMINATION THAT GOLDEN IS CURIOUS ABOUT. YOUR COMMENTS APPEAR TO PERMIT GOLDEN TO SAY WHAT SHE SAID, WHICH I FIND STRANGE.



WHICH PART OF GOLDENS COMMENTS, ALIGN WITH GODS WILL, ALLOWING HER TO JUDGE HIM RIGHTEOUSLY?



GOLDEN PRECISELY STATED THAT THE GUY IS PART OF A CULT BECAUSE OF HIS DENOMINATION, HOW CAN THAT BE RIGHTEOUS JUDGEMENT AND WHERE IS THE SCRIPTURE THAT ALLOWS HER TO SAY SUCH? AS I SAID EARLIER, BY STATING SUCH, IT STRONGLY APPEARS AS THOUGH SHE IS JUDGING HIM.



WHERE DOES THE BIBLE STATE THAT WE SHOULD BELONG TO A DENOMINATION?



THE PERSON THAT GOLDEN IS REFERING TO, ONLY CLAIMED THAT HE IS A LATTER SAINT OF JC. I DONT SEE ANYTHING WRONG WITH THAT, AFTERALL, WE ARE DEAD IN BODY BUT ALIVE IN CHRIST AND I HAVE NOT SEEN ANYTHING IN THE BIBLE THAT STATES THAT SUCH IS WRONG.



IN ADDITION, HOW MANY OF TODAYS DENOMINATIONS ARE EVEN MENTIONED IN THE BIBLE?



I KNOW THAT SOME OF THE DENOMINATIONS ARE MENTIONED, BUT THE TRUTH IS THAT WE WOULD NOT BE JUDGED ON WHICH DENOMINATION WE WERE PART OF, AS I SAID EARLIER, WE WOULD BE JUDGED ON THE CONTENTS OF OUR HEARTS AND WE WILL BE JUDGED ON WHETHER OR NOT WE FOLLOWED GODS COMMANDEMENTS AND DID THE WILL OF THE FATHER, SIMPLE AND CLEAR WITH NO ADDITIONS AND NO TWO WAYS ABOUT IT.



CLAIMING TO BE PART OF A DENOMINATION WHILST DOING THE OPPOSITE OF SERVING THE LORD, IS NOT GOING TO CUT IT, JESUS IS JUST GOING TO SAY TO SUCH, THAT HE NEVER KNEW THEM. IM NOT REFERING TO YOU OR TO ANYONE ELSE, I AM STATING THIS AS AN EXAMPLE.



IN ADDITION, I THINK YOU SHOULD LEAVE GOD TO TELL ME OR ANYONE ELSE WHETHER WE HAVE A �WEAK CHRISTIAN ATTITUDE�, THATS NOT A VERY NICE THING TO SAY AND JUST AS I SAID TO GOLDEN, LEGEND, PLEASE BE CAREFUL NOT TO JUDGE BECAUSE THOSE ARE SOME VERY STRONG WORDS.



AS I SAID AND QUOTED FROM SCRIPTURE IN MY LAST POST, WE ARE ALL ONE BODY OF CHRIST, DIFFRENT MEMBERS BUT ONE BODY, JUST BECAUSE A DENOMINATION IS UNCOMMON, IT DOES NOT MEAN THAT THAT PERSON IS AN OUTCAST OR IS SOMEONE THAT IS NOT FOLLOWING GODS WILL.



BROTHER LEGEND, TRUST ME, I FIGHT EVERY DAY FOR THE LORD AND I TRY AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE TO NOT SIT BACK, I SURE DONT TOLERATE ANYTHING THAT IS NOT FROM GODS WORD BUT I THINK YOU NEED TO READ ALL COMMENTS AGAIN. NEVER DID I JUDGE GOLDEN, PLEASE READ THEM AGAIN. IN ADDITION, I BELIEVE THAT GOD IS BEST PLACED TO SEE WHO IS FIGHTING FOR HIM, WHO IS SITTING BACK AND WHO IS TOLERATING WHAT. PLEASE PONDER MY COMMENTS CAREFULLY.

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Posted : 12 Aug, 2009 03:30 PM

PLEASE CHECK OUT THIS COOL THREAD ON DENOMINATIONS.



http://www.allaboutreligion.org/denominations-of-christianity-faq.htm

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Posted : 12 Aug, 2009 05:50 PM

kkid, question - why do you so often post in all caps. I dont think you mean to yell as it implies...

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Posted : 13 Aug, 2009 01:01 AM

DEAR SHUNAMMITE, I UNDERSTAND THAT THE NORM IS TO WRITE IN SMALL CAPS BUT I PERSONALLY PREFER LARGE CAPS BECAUSE THE WRITING JUST APPEARS MUCH CLEARER TO ME.



BROTHERS AND SISTERS, I KNOW THAT LARGE CAPS APPEAR TO MANY AS YELLING, BUT TRUST ME, I AM NOT YELLING AND I DONT MAKE COMMENTS TO MAKE PEOPLE THINK THAT I AM YELLING.



I DONT WANT TO START NO ARGUEMENT BUT EVEN THE BIBLE CONTAINS ALOT OF VERSES IN CAPS, BUT IT DID NOT LOOK LIKE JESUS WAS YELLING, EACH TIME HIS WORDS WERE IN CAPS.



SOMETHING TO PONDER.

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Posted : 13 Aug, 2009 07:07 PM

To KKid; i have read your continuous comments on the Chat Forum, mostly criticism of women...i don't even need to list because you have made so many and so varied. And the use of capitalization is a form of shouting and certainly arrogance, as thou your words and "ideas" are better than the rest. I'm sure there are others, like me, who don't even read your posts. The constant bashing by men like yourself has caused me not to make posts or even to go on this site. I have noticed a significant decrease in female responses, as well, especially after a long and heated response that has the tune of a rant.

Rant: intransitive verb

1 : to talk in a noisy, excited, or declamatory manner

2 : to scold vehemently

transitive verb

: to utter in a bombastic declamatory fashion

Cult: dictionary.reference.com/browse/cult

The value of chat forum is to ask questions or pose comments with the responses to aid in sharing of ideas and/or answers. Somehow, the directions of the post changes and no longer are comments related, as in this case. Apologizing for aggressive/belittling responses is NOT apologizing. "Before you can apologize for something you've done, make absolutely sure in your own heart that you really are sorry for what you've done" , a quote i just googled.

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Posted : 13 Aug, 2009 07:16 PM

P.S. The use of double negatives (two negative words, e.g.: don't & no) in one sentence makes the sentence a positive one. It's math: a negative times a negative equals a positive.

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