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You can't handle the truth
Posted : 5 Feb, 2012 10:12 AM

Women say that they want an honest man who does not play games, but in reality that is not what they go after. I have seen so many times where women chase after a guy who tells them up front that they are not interested in marriage, and then they are shocked when he never gets around to proposing. But, they will never go out with someone who states up front that they want to get married because they think that we are too desperate.



Women like guys that are confident, and I can understand why, but they never try to understand why the guy is confident in the first place. Their motivation behind their confidence is very important. I have seen plenty of men who are very confident around women because they have no desire to get married. It�s easy not to be shy when you have nothing to lose, even I can do that. True confidence comes from knowing what you are doing. There are a lot of men who are not confident because they don�t know what they are doing, but that does not mean that we can never learn.



Women also complain that they can�t find a guy who is serious about marriage. The problem is that you run away from anyone who states up front that they are interested in marriage. You want to start out as �just friends�, there mustn�t be any hint of desiring the theoretical possibility that there might be an outside chance that there might me something more than just friends. In other words, we have to lie to you. We can�t be honest and open about our intentions, we have to keep them to ourselves.



I hear so many times on these forums where women complain about there not being any good men, that they can�t find anyone who is willing to treat them honestly and to settle down in marriage. If you want an honest man, then stop running away from them when they tell you the truth. Stop chasing after guys who lie to you just so that you won�t run away.



You say you want the truth, but you can�t handle the truth.

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Posted : 7 Feb, 2012 04:53 PM

IODC, you are wrong, I do have respect and appreciation for other people�s experiences. But just because something works for them doesn�t mean that it will work for me. I keep reaching out to people and try to explain what I am going through and all people do is ignore what I say and just throw advice at me, whether it works or not. Like I have told you before, I am not dismissing your advice because I don�t want to try, I am dismissing your advice because I have been through it before, over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over again and it never works. I am sick and tired of asking for help and having to go through the same thing over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over again. And in the end, even if I do prove to someone that their �advice� doesn�t work, they won�t admit that I am right and try something different, they just accuse me of not really trying, just as you have done IODC. You are the one who refuses to have respect for my experiences.



I have yet had anyone ask me how they can help me. All anyone does is throw advice at me based upon what they think I should do.



Kjd23k: Even the Bible suggest that you should try to cheer people up by telling them �encouraging things�.

Proverbs 25:20 (NASB)

20 Like one who takes off a garment on a cold day, or like vinegar on soda, Is he who sings songs to a troubled heart.

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Posted : 7 Feb, 2012 06:07 PM

I'm tired of arguing.

So you want a girl and you want to be happy.

What are you gonna do about it in the physical world you live in?

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Posted : 7 Feb, 2012 06:08 PM

I'm tired of arguing.

So you want a girl and you want to be happy.

What are you gonna do about it in the physical world you live in?

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Posted : 7 Feb, 2012 06:22 PM

Wow IODC! You haven't listened to a word I said. No wonder you don't understamd.

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Posted : 7 Feb, 2012 06:53 PM

OK, Cobbler. How can we help you? I really mean that. Tell us what we can do, even if it is something as "simple" as praying for you.



We throw advice (that you already know doesn't work) at you because no one here has ever truly been in your place. We may think our situations are similar, but they clearly are not. So instead of really helping you, we just tell you what worked for us, or our friends, or our parents, or someone we read about in a book. We are sincere in our attempts to help, but as you say, we don't understand exactly what you are dealing with.

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Posted : 7 Feb, 2012 07:37 PM

Ok, but don't let that be a convenient excuse to avoid answering my question.

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Posted : 7 Feb, 2012 08:07 PM

All you do is keep proving my point, IODC

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Posted : 7 Feb, 2012 08:13 PM

Cobbler I am really confused by you and since everyone seems to misunderstand you maybe you should just till us what you want us to say or how you want us to respond. I said I will pray for you and I have but is that the help you want? We are not mind readers, we are compassionate people who take time out of our day to lend some encouragement or to be genuinely concerned. I am not clairvoyant as i am sure everyone is not. Do you even know what you want? You post a message and than come down on those who were willing to help. We do not know what you are going through... we don't really or ever will know what anyone is going through all we can do is offer comfort and point you to the Problem Solver. You keep making this about what we are not doing and you clearly are not seeing what we ARE trying to do. At least what I was attempting; which was being a Christian sister urging you to take this before the Lord. He is the only one who can help you, man cannot and you should stop looking at us to do so. GO TO GOD MY FRIEND HE ALONE CAN HELP YOU. If you think that's not enough or it's cliche do some re evaluation ok? I am still praying you come through this.



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Posted : 7 Feb, 2012 08:42 PM

Ok, you start out asking me what I want, and then you end up telling me that only God can help me. It�s nice to know I am so bad that only God can help me. I also love the insinuation that I am not taking this before God.



I think I am getting confused.

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Posted : 7 Feb, 2012 08:47 PM

hey Cobbler, for some reason this Oswald Chambers devotion from back in August came to mind while going through this discussion and thought to post it for you to read... something to ponder?

You have some people here who are showing they care, and that's a good thing bro :) Hope in some way it may help...



This Experience Must Come



Aug11 2012



And he saw him no more. � 2 Kings 2:12



It is not wrong to depend upon Elijah as long as God gives him to you, but remember the time will come when he will have to go; when he stands no more to you as your guide and leader, because God does not intend he should. You say � "I cannot go on without Elijah." God says you must.



Alone at your Jordan. v.14. Jordan is the type of separation where there is no fellowship with anyone else, and where no one can take the responsibility for you. You have to put to the test now what you learned when you were with your Elijah. You have been to Jordan over and over again with Elijah, but now you are up against it alone. It is no use saying you cannot go; this experience has come, and you must go. If you want to know whether God is the God you have faith to believe Him to be, then go through your Jordan alone.



Alone at your Jericho. v.15. Jericho is the place where you have seen your Elijah do great things. When you come to your Jericho you have a strong disinclination to take the initiative and trust in God, you want someone else to take it for you. If you remain true to what you learned with Elijah, you will get the sign that God is with you.



Alone at your Bethel. v.23. At your Bethel you will find yourself at your wits� end and at the beginning of God�s wisdom. When you get to your wits� end and feel inclined to succumb to panic, don�t; stand true to God and He will bring His truth out in a way that will make your life a sacrament. Put into practice what you learned with your Elijah, use his cloak and pray. Determine to trust in God and do not look for Elijah any more.

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