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is happiness a choice or a by-product?
Posted : 11 Mar, 2012 09:17 PM

some say a choice

some say a by product



jesus said as a by product of obedience

paul said he thinks it

proverbs says as a man thinketh in his heart



what do you say?

all replys are appreciated



sometimes the perspective of others helps me to understand stuff



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is happiness a choice or a by-product?
Posted : 12 Mar, 2012 11:14 AM

Both: thinking it is a positive attitude and one of the (possible) results is happiness. I do say "possible" though, somedays things just don't go right no matter what you do!



Having said that, I don't believe happiness is a right...

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is happiness a choice or a by-product?
Posted : 13 Mar, 2012 01:41 PM

I think that some people also confuse "joy" for "happiness." As Christians, we can (and should) have joy in any situation or circumstance because we have the Holy Spirit living in us; we might not always be happy, though, because some situations and circumstances are unpleasant at times. Joy is a choice, but happiness is a fleeting emotion that I would tend to think is more of a by-product of particularly good circumstances, events, situations, etc.

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is happiness a choice or a by-product?
Posted : 14 Mar, 2012 03:58 AM

Thanks for the reminder on that excellent definition. I had forgotten that.

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is happiness a choice or a by-product?
Posted : 28 Mar, 2012 01:03 AM

I think happiness is a gift really.



Mind over matter is great. But I sorta feel that only the Lord can put the bounce in our step... :bouncy:. of course its a choice to receive the gift, and a choice to reject it. And the byproduct of receiving the Lord's gift may very well be happiness.



Happiness is lurking behind every bush, :excited: every tree, every bite of ice-cream.... but sometimes we can choose to be numb to it.



I've been numb to happiness, and its kinda like having a cold during the heat of summer. Super weird.



I like what BCPianoGal said. :applause: And the joy of the Lord is our strength.

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Posted : 15 Apr, 2012 06:28 PM

Why settle for less than God's best?



There is a prophecy about Christ�s joy in Psalm 45:7-- �Therefore God, Your God, has set You above Your companions by anointing You with the oil of joy.� Joy is promised by Jesus Christ for all believers in Him, His love, and His commandments. Jesus Christ spoke of His joy in John 15:10-11 and 17:13 in which He claimed the ability or power to bestow His joy into His believers. Joy is one of the fruit of the Holy Spirit for believers (Galatians 5:22-23). Jesus Christ�s followers should be joyful people. It is the best testimony about the wonderfulness of being a Christian: that one is able to be very positive in a very negative world. So many individuals are usually sad or indifferent; just surviving. If you would work for someone who is joyful, wouldn�t you probably become joyful? Luke 10:21 tells us that Jesus was full of joy through the Holy Spirit after seventy-two disciples returned from to witness. If we have the same joy, we will want to praise God. Jesus Christ did in that verse. No one will be the same as before after committing his or her whole being to Jesus and knowing Him as personal Savior and Master.

It is not easy to describe this joy which the Apostle Peter referred to in 1 Peter 1:8 as an �inexpressible and glorious joy�. It is far more than the happiness which relationships with humans and animals can give. Certainly there are legitimate pleasures in the world that can be enjoyed more fully when one has the joy of the Holy Spirit. But the joy of the Holy Spirit is set apart from all the levels of purely human joy. It is the result of faith in God. Romans 15:13 says, �May the God of hope fill you with all joy and peace as you trust in Him, so that you may overflow with hope by the power of the Holy Spirit�. Divine joy is much better than the best happiness in secular situations/activities. In English, the word �happiness� is not in the KJV Bible and the twenty-five verses with the word �happy� give no indication that happiness is from the Godhead. Doesn�t that sound exciting to you? Don�t settle for less than joy just because you are lonely. God�s best for us is always worth waiting for.

Joy from the Holy Spirit is not dependent on our outward circumstances. Also knowing about the joy in Heaven should help all Christians to tolerate any kind of persecution. Also, about 2,000 years ago, Jesus Christ�s hope for future joy in Heaven sustained Him in His painful crucifixion. Hebrews 12:2 says that Jesus �endured the cross for the joy set before Him�. The Apostle Paul recognized this when he wrote to the Thessalonians: �In spite of severe suffering, you welcomed the message with the joy given by the Holy Spirit�. Spiritual joy endures even in hardships, because it is developed from within by the Holy Spirit. In Philippians 4:4, just before he was to be beheaded for teaching Christianity, the Apostle Paul wrote, �Rejoice in The Lord always, and again I say rejoice.� When I share that tough command, I add, �In any situation, things could always be worse and there is always something to be thankful for, right?� So having joy is a matter of choice and proper relationship with God. A famous anagram is appropriate:

J-- Jesus

O-- Others

Y-- Yourself

{in that order chronologically}

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Posted : 15 Apr, 2012 06:30 PM

***resulting in doing what pleases God (for women too)

Job 5:17

Eliphaz told Job,

�Behold, happy is the man whom God correcteth:

therefore despise not thou the chastening of the Almighty;�Psalms 128:1-3

�1 A Song of degrees.

Blessed is every one that feareth the LORD, that walketh in His ways.

2 For thou shalt eat the labour of thine hands:

happy shalt thou be, and it shall be well with thee.

3 Thy wife shall be as a fruitful vine by the sides of thine house;

thy children like olive plants round about thy table.�

Psalms 144:15

�Happy is that people, that is in such a case:

yea, happy is that people whose God is the LORD.�

Psalms 146:5

�Happy is he that hath the God of Jacob for his help,

whose hope is in the LORD his God;�

Proverbs 3:13 & 18

�13 Happy is the man that findeth wisdom,

and the man that getteth understanding.

18 She is a tree of life to them that lay hold upon her;

and happy is every one that retaineth her.�

Proverbs 14:21

�He that despiseth his neighbour sinneth;

but he that hath mercy on the poor, happy is he.�

Proverbs 16:20

�He that handleth a matter wisely shall find good;

and whoso trusteth in the LORD, happy is he.�



Proverbs 28:13-14

�13 He that covereth his sins shall not prosper;

but whoso confesseth and forsaketh them shall have mercy.

14 Happy is the man that feareth always;

but he that hardeneth his heart shall fall into mischief.�

Proverbs 29:18

�Where there is no vision, the people perish;

but he that keepeth the law, happy is he.�

John 13: 15-17

Jesus Christ said to His closest Disciples,

�15 For I have given you an example, that ye should do as I have done to you.

16 Verily, verily, I say unto you,

the servant is not greater than his lord;

neither he that is sent greater than he that sent him.

17 If ye know these things, happy are ye if ye do them.�

Acts 6:2

The Apostle Paul said,

�I think myself happy, King Agrippa,

because I shall answer for myself this day before thee

touching all the things whereof I am accused of the Jews;�

Romans 14:21-23

The Apostle Paul wrote,

�21 It is good neither to eat flesh, nor to drink wine,

nor any thing whereby thy brother stumbleth, or is offended, or is made weak.

22 Hast thou faith?

Have it to thyself before God.

Happy is he that condemneth not himself in that thing which he alloweth.�

23 And he that doubteth is damned if he eat, because he eateth not of faith:

for whatsoever is not of faith is sin.�

James 5:11

�Behold, we count them happy which endure.

Ye have heard of the patience of Job, and have seen the end of the Lord;

that the Lord is very pitiful, and of tender mercy.�

1 Peter 3:14-16

�14 But and if ye suffer for righteousness' sake,

happy are ye;

and be not afraid of their terror, neither be troubled;�

15 But sanctify the Lord God in your hearts;

and be ready always to give an answer to every man that asketh you

a reason of the hope that is in you with meekness and fear:

16 having a good conscience;

that, whereas they speak evil of you, as of evildoers,

they may be ashamed that falsely accuse your good conversation in Christ.�

1 Peter 4:14

�If ye be reproached for the name of Christ, happy are ye;

for the spirit of glory and of God resteth upon you;

on their part he is evil spoken of,

but on your part H is glorified.�

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