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Posted : 5 Oct, 2012 10:01 AM

While researching the much-vaunted concept of compatibility in relationships, I came across the following article in oprah.com and wanted to share with all of us:



Which component in a romantic relationship is more important: attraction or compatibility? While many would argue in favor of compatibility, Rabbi Shmuley says it is attraction that is the lifeblood of a healthy, long-lasting and loving relationship. He talks about the true meaning of attraction and why it is at the heart of every great romantic partnership.



In today's society, Rabbi Shmuley says attraction is misunderstood and has been reduced to mean physical attraction, which is ultimately a fleeting force based on novelty. But real attraction, he argues, is much more. "Attraction is the inexplicable, mysterious, magnetic pull of polar opposites�of the feminine to the masculine, the masculine to the feminine," he says.



When a man is attracted to a woman, Rabbi Shmuley says there are five things that should constitute his attraction: Her scent, sound, mind, heart and, finally, her body. Compatibility takes precedence over attraction when these five senses are not fully explored and engaged, he says. "We've so reduced attraction to something so monolithic that it's lost its power, so we've had to fall back on compatibility," he says.



Attraction may create or lead to compatibility, but compatibility alone is not enough to keep a man and woman together for the long haul, Rabbi Shmuley says. Compatibility means having things in common�it means friendship, he says, and couples who embark on a lifelong commitment to one another based solely on the merits of friendship are bound to fail. "The insistence on compatibility as opposed to attraction is what's making relationships so weak these days," Rabbi Shmuley says. "They are so easily torn asunder because the force that binds them is actually a weak one."



Today's Shmuleyism

"In a relationship, common goals are much more important than a common origin. Where you are going to is much more important than where you are coming from."





Read more: http://www.oprah.com/oprahradio/Attraction-or-Compatibility#ixzz28RdQ73XE

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Posted : 10 Oct, 2012 03:17 PM

Him4Her,



Tip: You might want to cite your sources in the future rather than plagiarize. :laugh: This certainly would help your credibility. Also, you may want to make sure that what you "borrow" is relevant or applicable to the discussion at hand. This would help the readers rather than deceive them with straw man argumentation.



Here is the citation that you neglected to include in your earlier post:

http://www.logicallyfallacious.com/index.php/logical-fallacies/17-alleged-certainty



By the way, reading through what you posted would have proved beneficial to you as well. Since, you would have seen that "tips" like this one: "Replace the word �certain� in your life with �extremely probable� are Biblically unsound. The Word of God is true and it is certain - 100% certain.

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Posted : 10 Oct, 2012 04:28 PM

Oh it's a bad argument to show that the woman you look up to for spiritual teaching is professing another gospel? Please stick to the topic, Your plan to show your superior knowledge while not dealing with the actual arguments isn't going to work here. We aren't going to be impressed. I have no doubt that you are probably smarter than me. Fortunately that's not really relevant is it? You just made quite the long post without addressing any of the claims of the opposition, nor did you defend any of your previous claims by using the scriptures. Are we to assume that you are incapable of doing so?

Okay, you think it's cool to not believe in truth as presented from scripture. You will die in yours sins if God does not change your heart.

"reasonably hear the other side out"...What exactly do you think we haven't heard. We destroy arguments and every lofty opinion raised against the knowledge of God, and take every thought captive to obey Christ as we are supposed to do. You can look that one up(2 Corinthians 10:5). We heard your arguments and refuted them. You've not been able to defend your views from scripture so you have resorted to calling your opponents dumb and closed minded.

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Posted : 10 Oct, 2012 04:32 PM

Thanks for putting in the work to find this. Not only have his arguments been weak and dead wrong, but now you have shown us that there is a major integrity issue with Him4Her.

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Posted : 10 Oct, 2012 08:33 PM

TBK you never provided citations fro all the Bible blitz. Just cheap childishness.

This is pure argumentum reductio ad absurdium. This is the real trashy mind you expouse. Absolute nonsense!!!

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Posted : 10 Oct, 2012 08:37 PM

GraceU, I see the stuff you guys are made of: agents of darkness parading as angels of light. Taking cheap shots at dignitaries and cursing out fellow humans all in the name of your warped spirituality. Talking about brood of vipers clothed in religious gard of abject hypocrisy.

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Posted : 10 Oct, 2012 08:58 PM

TBK,

The following Bible quotations you lifted from Bible Gateway speak to your misearable "credibilty"huh :zzzz:



Your introductory words portrays you as the owner of the quoted "lifted words."Did you even acknowledge the website you copied it from? Hypocrites try to pick specks from the yes of others while neglecting the timber in their own eyes.







"Likewise, a little knowledge may help you better discuss things more wisely instead of vainly. "







Isa. 5



13 Therefore my people are gone into captivity, because they have no knowledge: and their honourable men are famished, and their multitude dried up with thirst.







14 Therefore hell hath enlarged herself, and opened her mouth without measure: and their glory, and their multitude, and their pomp, and he that rejoiceth, shall descend into it.







15 And the mean man shall be brought down, and the mighty man shall be humbled, and the eyes of the lofty shall be humbled:







16 But the Lord of hosts shall be exalted in judgment, and God that is holy shall be sanctified in righteousness.







17 Then shall the lambs feed after their manner, and the waste places of the fat ones shall strangers eat.







18 Woe unto them that draw iniquity with cords of vanity, and sin as it were with a cart rope:







19 That say, Let him make speed, and hasten his work, that we may see it: and let the counsel of the Holy One of Israel draw nigh and come, that we may know it!







20 Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!







21 Woe unto them that are wise in their own eyes, and prudent in their own sight!







22 Woe unto them that are mighty to drink wine, and men of strength to mingle strong drink:







23 Which justify the wicked for reward, and take away the righteousness of the righteous from him!







24 Therefore as the fire devoureth the stubble, and the flame consumeth the chaff, so their root shall be as rottenness, and their blossom shall go up as dust: because they have cast away the law of the Lord of hosts, and despised the word of the Holy One of Israel.







25 Therefore is the anger of the Lord kindled against his people, and he hath stretched forth his hand against them, and hath smitten them: and the hills did tremble, and their carcases were torn in the midst of the streets. For all this his anger is not turned away, but his hand is stretched out still.







and....







Romans 1



21 Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.







22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,







23 And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.







24 Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:







25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.







26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:







27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.







28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;







29 Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers,







30 Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,







31 Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful:







32 Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.



....and here's verse 33 for you especially:



33. Woe unto those who stick out their tongue against dignitaries. Woe unto such like you and your unholy bunch who gang up with Bible verses in hand seeking whom they may devour with satanic venoms laced with Biblical honey. It's a shame!!!

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Posted : 10 Oct, 2012 09:42 PM

GraceU claims my arguments has been "weak"but actually I can't see where I made any arguments at all. I made statements or responded to people's thoughts. There is no argument ab initio because it takes two to argue a point. I posted something that ruffled your religious feathers and since then you either splashed Bible verses or used innuendos to showcase your simplistic displeasure.



What I stated from the begining is that Rabbi Shmuley, Oprah and others out there who are impacting my generation deserve my intellectual inquiry - not hateful condemnations and incendiary attacks. I still stand by that - uninformed scriptural oppositions notwithstanding.



Then came your bellicosity and arrogant blitzkrieg with bombs of uneducated Bible verses and personal invectives.



Nonetheless, I know that Rabbi Shmuley is a world best-selling author of 27 books and is a global phenomenon - which none of my detractors here are - or can ever be.



Show me your books about the notions you hold so dear. Those who can't build are notorious for jealously tearing down.



Oprah is forever written in heavenly vinyl - hate her or love her. Even, God loves her beyond words and Jesus Christ cherishes her!



Do I have a right to subscrbe to any view I want? Absolutely!

As per the policies of Christian Dating for Free, did I violate policy for posting the article here? Absolutely not! The editors vetted it before allowng it to post (so I suppose).



Therefore, who do you think you are to dictate to me what to believe, think, say or post here? Just because you have a profile here with a tag that says "Christian" does not entitle you to make such judgment calls.



Did I invade your private interests by posting here? Do you not have a choic to read or not to read....to comment or to forbear?

Now you step beyond your bounds by cursing me out and trying all kinds of barbaric gimmickry to show your supposed christian hate for Oprah, Shmuley and me.



Well, I said earlier that I will kindly render back whatever anyone brings. So, shall I say Game on to both of you who choose to make war.

Since you choose to go personal, let's keep it that way henceforth. It will be cowardly for anyone of us to subsequently complaint to the editorial board especially when things get really heated up soon.

Welcome!!

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Posted : 10 Oct, 2012 10:24 PM

Taking cheap shots at dignitaries? I guess it sounded good to you at the time. Can you show me where I did this? Cursing out fellow humans? Please show me where I did this. Now we are hypocrites and a vipers. Yet, were you not the one who said it was not Christian to say such things? When will you stop lying and give a defense for your claims? You are trying to create distractions...nothing more. You should be ashamed.

"The following Bible quotations you lifted from Bible Gateway speak to your misearable "credibilty"huh"

Vicious cycle isn't it? Bible Gateway got them from the bible. Everyone is stealing...sad isn't it? Is this really your defense for being a thief and trying to act like you were posting your own words?

"GraceU claims my arguments has been "weak"but actually I can't see where I made any arguments at all"

Yea that's my point....thanks. However you have indeed argued that your are correct. You have just done so in a failed fashion.

Yet for all of the talk, you have not been able to show one time how any of us were uninformed about scripture. You just keep repeating as if that is some sort of proof. Others have shown why your idea that Oprah and others deserve our inquiry is so contrary to the truth. I will say it again....they teach a false gospel. They do not believe Jesus is the one and only way. You have provided no defense for this and until you do, you cannot continue to post that everyone else is uninformed on scripture. You criticize Christians and promote nonbelievers. That's more than a little backwards. You went as far as to make the argument that Jesus and the apostles were hated. Yet you had not response when you were informed that they were hated by nonbelievers, not believers. I am still waiting for your response to this. You said I cannot post scripture that Jesus didn't die to save everyone. Yet you failed to post a scripture showing otherwise. I said you must not be able to. You have never responded to that point. Every time you have been refuted in this thread you change the subject and go off on another tangent while trying to pain yourself as being more spiritual and openminded than everyone else. You still fail to see that scripture is our standard and you are not testing anything by scripture. Your only test is to see if it's progressive or speaks to our generation and then you jump on board. Sorry but that isn't Christianity. Maybe you don't claim Christianity. Okay fine, but then why are you here?

So because I claim to know the scripture I am arrogant? Are we not commanded to be in the word? How then is it an arrogant thing? What is an uneducated bible verse? You've had numerous chances to educate and you have not chosen to do it. You have an open invitation.

So then the test of truth or greatness is in one's popularity or the amount of books they have sold? Can you find me this passage in scripture? Seems you should focus less on praising godless men and focus more on what brings glory to God. Now let's think about this for a little bit. There are Christian authors who would not at all be for the rabbi. They have written tons of books. Now we have a dilemma. Who is right? The one who written more books? For as smart as you've been trying to sound this whole time, your reasoning really is lacking.

I mean I could write a book should I choose, but what at all would that prove? It would prove that I was capable of writing a book. Content of the book and whether it glorifies God is what matters. Since you are big on pointing out fallacious arguments then what do you make of your appeal to popularity?

Interesting that you think Jesus loves Oprah when she denies Jesus. She will be in the heaven of her choosing for her rejection of God. However, unless God changes her heart, she will not be in the heaven the scriptures speak of.

Do you as a professing Christian have the right to subscribe to any view you choose? Absolutely not. We take every though captive in obedience to Christ(2 Corinthians 10:5)

Actually they do not look at posts before they are allowed to be posted. That's why it posts automatically. There is not way a human could read that fast. Violating the site's policy isn't what's in question.

Who am I? Just a man but the scriptures teach to rebuke. Maybe you deny those scriptures as well?

Yes I have a choice to read and comment and as you have notice...all the believers exercised their right and showed their disagreement. It seems you are upset that people don't celebrate in your religious freedom so you are attacking everyone.

Again, who has cursed you out? It's time for you to start defending your claims. You've already shown to lack integrity. How long will you continue is this style of posting(making things up and then not defending them)

So you admit you are about to get more personal and then make a plea for us not to report you for it? I have an idea...submit to the scriptures and repent of your actions.

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Posted : 13 Oct, 2012 02:48 PM

I came across this treasure the other day:



Prov 28:4 They that forsake the law praise the wicked: but such as keep the law contend with them.



con�tend

Verb:

1 Struggle to surmount (a difficulty or danger).

2 Engage in a competition or campaign in order to win or achieve (something).

Synonyms:

contest - argue - fight - compete - assert - struggle

(google.com)

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Posted : 14 Oct, 2012 09:29 PM

Amen

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