Thread: a little suggestion to all my beloved sisters in the faith
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a little suggestion to all my beloved sisters in the faith
Posted : 17 Jul, 2014 02:10 PM
This is to all my sisters here, i will suggest that we let the men contact us! After all it was to them that Gad asked to leave their father and mother and cliff to us the womenl. It is also written, He who finds a wife.... So it the mens' duty to look for us untill they find us and not the other way round! I used to contact them but when the realisation of these Scriptures hit me, i stoped. However, we can just brouse around in order not to be inactive!
a little suggestion to all my beloved sisters in the faith
Posted : 22 Jul, 2014 10:10 AM
@mabel_mabel222
"Its not bec Ruth aproached first Boaz that we shouldl take her action for an example! God never 'said' directly to Ruth to go to Boaz! u see the Bilbe is an inspiration book but all scriptures in it is inspired! let me expalain, Abraham the Father of Faith lied!!! and his lies we included in the Bible. God did not put it there so that we can go ahead and lie just like Abraham!!"
This reference is irrelevant. Abraham lied we know that. The Bible pointed out a sin that Abraham did. That doesn't mean we should out there and lie like he did because it is known that LYING IS A SIN and the Bible makes that clear.
When you say this is the case with Ruth and Boaz, you are actually saying that TAKING THE INITIATIVE IS A SIN which the Bible never said. The Bible says it's natural for a man pursue his wife. It didn't say anything about a woman making the first move (first move not pursue) being wrong or right. Don't make your own interpretations can call Ruth's actions sinful.
a little suggestion to all my beloved sisters in the faith
Posted : 22 Jul, 2014 10:16 AM
Saying the following doesn't mean that I don't idmire your bible insight, just concerned of few things. And thank you so much for bringing this up, it was a healthy expression of our difference views.
May God continue to bless you always!!
"If u had taken time to follow this conversation from the start" I'm glad you've brought this sentence up cause I did read your post and everyone else's reply before posting my reply. I wasn't gonna bring this up and maybe I shouldn't do it since you've already ended your initiated post but i'll do it anyway simply cause you're suggesting I should go back to where this started.
When reading your comments, especially the biblical ones' I'm amazed at how selective you are of passages that should be taken as an example and passages that according to you are just not God's will. Can I ask you this question please:
Who said God has a direct way of doing things when He said that, "His thoughts are not our thoughts neither are His ways our ways? I'll use Ruth's passage since according to you its one of the examples to be followed inasmuch as its biblical. Who knows if it was still God's righteousness for Ruth to initiate to Boaz as she did? What if God doesn't see any human error in what Ruth did inasmuch as I agree with you that at times He does use our short falls to pursue His will? What if God was trying to communicate to us just how spontaneous and kinda "strange" for us to comprehend His ways at times?
(please allow me to deviate a little bit)
Don't you just find it strange that God intentionally hardened Pharaoh's heart so He pursue His righteous plans with Israel? Isn't it strange that God would inspire someone to be evil? (maybe I still lack maturity. I certainly find it strange!) How about Moses not making it to the promised land? Israel made it through his effort. How many times has Moses prayed and bags God not to kill Israel only to miss the promised land all because of them? Does this label God cruel?
As if those weren't enough, He did it again with Judas who was born to betray Jesus to sinners to be crucified. Now where was Jesus without Judas? This means someone had to do this even if it wasn't Judas. Is it even fair that someone should be conceived only to betray the King of Kings and most probably die in sin and go to hell? Are these passages (and more I didn't qoate) less of God's righteousness cause they shake our grounds and leave us feeling "uncertain"? Its very easy for us to only see human error in these, errors that God had to work upon to bring forth His plan, only to find that God only sees His perfect plan beyond our understanding.
Now coming back to our main subject: Who are we to claim that certain passages are not God's plan like you are claiming with Ruth?
Don't you think that if God whose always in control wouldn't have allowed Abigail's husband to die if He was totally against David and Abigail being together? Why do you think that their actions were fault?
I'm only bringing this up cause you sent me back to the beginning of this. I'm concerned in how you're selective of God's word. With you some are His will, some are not when all are biblical. Having said this i'm not saying that we should lie like Abraham or kill like Moses or betray like Judas did. What makes you think some passages are not God's perfect will? Where's that coming from sis?
a little suggestion to all my beloved sisters in the faith
Posted : 30 Jul, 2014 07:06 AM
"Men enjoy the chase" :ROFL:
In the days of the prophets, a man would have found a woman who was pleasing to him and brought her unto his tent and then that would be that! No chasing involved.
But in fairness I'm sure they were treated very well back then.
a little suggestion to all my beloved sisters in the faith
Posted : 30 Jul, 2014 08:19 AM
What I "dispiced" about the former days was the idea of the fathers groom making agreements with the ladies father, uniting their children without them knowing. As if that wasn't enough, he (the groom's father) would pay the price agreed upon for his son to have the lady as his wife. After the wedding ceremony, the husband would take the lady into his mum's tent as her new home. I mean really, two weman on a same kitchen? I wonder how did that work out.
The husband didn't put any effort and input in having his wife and the lady's father corparating with all this without consulting his daughter? How about the lady meeting her husband for the very first time on their wedding day awaited by love making on their wedding night? How do you open up to a complete stranger to that level? I thought this is suppose to be inspired by chemistry and a strong bond between two people who are in love and have chose to love each other. I really wonder if their marriages did work out fore their culture's way of doing things doesn't seem to be a solid way of laying a foundation for a life time relationship. Was really amazed when I googled this!
a little suggestion to all my beloved sisters in the faith
Posted : 31 Jul, 2014 11:58 PM
What must be remembered is there was no specific standard for arranged marriages worldwide and there was all sorts of instances where marriages happened outside the "norm" in the Bible alone. Like the instance of David & Abigail, she could have refused if she really wanted.