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Be sure the Man/Woman you seek is a Moral person
Posted : 28 Jul, 2012 11:59 AM

What a disappointment today, to find out the a man of my interest was not willing to wait for Sex. This is a Christian site and I feel that Christians should be willing to get to know one another as friends not Lovers. He was a long time Baptist member and claimed to be a Christian.



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Hello Joy

I do thank you highly for your replies. You are truly a remarkable lady. But I have to be honest with you in that I do not intend to remain celibate until marriage. I guess that leaves no hopes for us to cultivate a relationship. I do hope you find the one you are waiting for. And I am sure it will be well worth it when you do. May God Bless you!!!!



Glenn



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Posted : 8 Aug, 2012 07:01 PM

Let it go...

Fornication is a Sin... That is what is EXPOSED here and all who fornicate are still living in their Sins.



We moved on...



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Posted : 8 Aug, 2012 07:18 PM

Joy said: "a fornicating person is not a moral person. So, do not tell me I am judging this man. The Word speaks out against fornication.

Once again you come to Discredit me here... "



but what I actually said was:



" She judged him as immoral and not a Christan. You and I will probably both agree that her judgement was a righteous one but it was a judgement"

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Posted : 8 Aug, 2012 10:18 PM

No Bob, what she did was expose him. Exposure is not judgement. And you will be known by your works as a tree is known by its fruit. When you dwell in a sinful nature, everyone sees that sinful nature. Just because they recognize sin, does not mean they are judging. Joy was condemned for exposing his sin. She was the one being judged.



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Posted : 8 Aug, 2012 10:38 PM

Brother,



I don't wish to go back and forth with you so this will be my last comment on the matter. If she had simply posted his email, it would have been exposing his position. That is not the whole of what she did.



She also included "He was a long time Baptist member and claimed to be a Christian. " The implication is that he is NOT a Christian.. this is a judgment. The title that she applied to the thread is also a judgment in this context because she suggests that Glenn is immoral. That is also a judgment. As I stated, its a righteous judgment but it is a judgment nonetheless.



Crayola's comments are highlighting the fact that two wrongs don't make a right. This is also a judgment. It too, is a righteous judgment.



Now, you can defend her actions as much as you want but from this distance, I still think you are missing the point.

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Posted : 8 Aug, 2012 11:05 PM

No, I understand exactly what you are saying. I am just saying that you are wrong. Lets go about this in another direction. Lets say that you wanted to invest your life savings. Now, the person you were going to invest with claims to be honest and have a good track record with investing. Someone you know tells you that the guy is a scammer and to not invest your money with them, because that "investment broker" had just scammed them.



Is the person judging the broker or is he/she trying to warn you beforehand? ExceedingJoy was trying to warn everyone on here to beware of people who claim to be Christians, but do not act like Christians.



Now, on a dating site, people are looking to invest their hearts, not money. But it is just as devastating to have your heart stolen and then abused for someone else's pleasure.



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Posted : 8 Aug, 2012 11:53 PM

" I am just saying that you are wrong."



I suppose that is not a judgment. Right? :laugh:



Since you have made that judgment, by what standard am I being measured other than your own? Are you applying the law of God against this judgment in someway that I don't recognize? How am I wrong in an objective sense measured against God's law?



Now, here is where you analogy falls flat on its face. Glenn (the investment broker) tells Joy upfront that he is a scammer. He is not hiding this fact. In this scenario Joy did not get scammed. She might have assumed that all investment brokers are honest and been disappointed by Glenn's admission that he is a scammer but his admission prevents her from being scammed. So, what is she here to warn all other potential investors about in the end? That not all investment brokers are honest? Anybody that would have assumed that from the beginning is probably very naive. Thanks for the warning though. I will take it under advisement.



Joy then goes on to make a judgment about Glenn that he is immoral and NOT a Christian since he has admitted that he is a scammer. As I said now repeatedly, her judgment was probably correct. I am not debating that fact. However, it is still a judgment.



Crayola's point is that she has no business including Glenn's name with her warning. I agree. Their conversation was a private one. That is where it should have been left. Glenn has not violated her in some way by being upfront and honest with her. She has no good reason for violating his privacy either. I believe Crayola is right when he says this falls under the umbrella of "gossip". While what Glenn is doing might be immoral in a Biblical sense, it is not illegal. She does not have duty to disclose these facts about Glenn to the world. Charity covers a multitude of sins brother.



I apologize for saying that I would not comment again and then doing so. That was my original intention but your response merited my response.

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Posted : 9 Aug, 2012 04:57 AM

You really dont get it, Bob. She had already made an investment. She had invested time and emotion with Glenn the broker.



Having an opinion is not "judging". Thats where zealots have a problem. There is a difference between someone of true faith and a zealot. As Christians we are to have discernment. We must be able to tell good from evil. Why do you think we are given so many examples in the Bible? It is so, should our discernment falter, we have written examples to assist us.



Remember, God said that is it better to be hot or cold, rather than lukewarm. Glenn claims to be Christian, but still clings to the world. You can not serve two masters. Hot or cold, not lukewarm.



Also, it wouldnt have matter to Crayola if she had said Glenn, Bob, Jack, Tom, Richard, or Harry. Ive been reading his posts. Posts like, "This is like criagslist for christians". Discernment, brother, discernment. Knowing good from evil.



I find it humorous that you, someone who has had his own insulting posts pointed out in seperate threads, in sperate sections, should be comming to the defense of someone who is insulting ExceedingJoy. Evil works best in secret, in darkness. And I will always "get in the face" of evil, because I fear no evil.



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Posted : 9 Aug, 2012 05:21 AM

Enjoy your "victory" brother. :laugh:



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Posted : 9 Aug, 2012 07:01 AM

Apostelle



AMEN



Bob is judging me here so why is he keeping it up. He should move on if he doesnt agree and keep trying to Insult me, because I believe the Word and choose to follow it.



Fornication is a Sin, in God's Word.



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Posted : 9 Aug, 2012 07:04 AM

BobBobbins



Wisdom comes from GOD.

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