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a little suggestion to all my beloved sisters in the faith
Posted : 17 Jul, 2014 02:10 PM
This is to all my sisters here, i will suggest that we let the men contact us! After all it was to them that Gad asked to leave their father and mother and cliff to us the womenl. It is also written, He who finds a wife.... So it the mens' duty to look for us untill they find us and not the other way round! I used to contact them but when the realisation of these Scriptures hit me, i stoped. However, we can just brouse around in order not to be inactive!
a little suggestion to all my beloved sisters in the faith
Posted : 20 Jul, 2014 09:21 AM
Greetings to you sis and thank you for writing back! I must admit that I agree with some of what you've written, but then again I still disagree with few things.
When saying: "We are not called to follow christs example" Was there another foundation layed for us to follow other than His very own? What is really there to overcome while sharing in His sufferings so we can also share in His glory if we're to isolate ourselves from suffering and claim not to be called to fellow His example? Why are we even warned that we gonna be persecuted to a point of death for Christ' sake if there's less expected of us? "Much given, much expected" we were told that we gonna do more than He did cause we will be drawing from Him. Does this warning excuse hardship sis?
And yes I grew up hearing that, "Weman don't love but respond to love" I know for a fact that we are able and capable to love. We may choose to suppress and not act upon that love, fact is you did love that particular person. I still emphasis that being pursued doesn't mean that you'll have a healthy relationship. It doesn't mean he understands and will pursue leadership just cause he led you into loving him.
Having said the above, I by no means mean that we're called to submit through tears. I only qoated Christ' example to the cross as a warning of how hard submission can really be at times. Does waiting to be approached mean you'll make a good wife or keeping to what you're instructed by God will make you one?
a little suggestion to all my beloved sisters in the faith
Posted : 21 Jul, 2014 08:46 AM
@curiousgeorge
i throw back the question at u; can u point out any scripture(s) that states clearly that the female can intiiate a relationship like in the case of men ?(Gen 2:24, Mt 19:5, Mk 10:7, Prov 18:22, 31:10). Have u ever seen where a woman goes to ask a man's hand for marraige? U see,the Word of God clearly states that the traditions of men render the Word of God of no effect!!! (Mt 15:6)
a little suggestion to all my beloved sisters in the faith
Posted : 21 Jul, 2014 12:50 PM
There is a difference between letting a man know he should make up his mind about where things are going and taking a knee... nvm that diamond engagement rings are only a 100+ years old.
a little suggestion to all my beloved sisters in the faith
Posted : 21 Jul, 2014 06:31 PM
Sexual harrassment? Your words have defined where your mind lies George! :ROFL:
Pursuing a woman with gentleness and selflessness and love would do it! If a man pursued me me in that fashion and wouldnt give up Id eventually give in. Why wouldnt I? How could a woman turn down that kind of love?
A woman worth her salt can smell a rat a mile away. After the first try she would kick a rat to the curb but if she doesnt....well then thats a cue for the man to try a different strategy. Precious jewels have to be worked for and dont come easily! Meaning,wisdom my dear man, wisdom!!!
The Virtues of Noble Woman
10An excellent wife, who can find? For her worth is far above jewels. 11The heart of her husband trusts in her, And he will have no lack of gain.�
Did you notice the "find" word? Hmmmmm ..so how do you suppose someone would find something? By looking for it maybe?:bouncy
18Then the LORD God said, �It is not good for the man to be alone; I will make him a helper suitable for him.
Does that say helper? >scratching my head here but Im thinkin that means the man is the leader right?
1 Corinthians 11:3
3 But I want you to understand that Christ is the head of every man, and the man is the head of a woman, and God is the head of Christ.
Wow! Did I read that right or does it say man is head of household? So are we going to do a role reversal before the marriage because if Im to go get me a man and play the mans role than I should get to rule over him right?:excited:
a little suggestion to all my beloved sisters in the faith
Posted : 21 Jul, 2014 08:18 PM
@ mabel_mabel222
I never said the woman should do the pursuing. I just asked what's wrong with being the first to say "hi" on here or even in real life. Saying "hi" to someone new does not = persuing
If you introduce yourself to a guy (whom you have no interest in) is that pursuing? is it now a sin to be sociable? :excited:
a little suggestion to all my beloved sisters in the faith
Posted : 21 Jul, 2014 08:33 PM
HiddenInHim
Dear sister, I don't mean to Interfair with your argument with George, but can I share this with you please in agreement with Rambo's last reply. When a woman avails herself to a man, even when she initiate by breaking the ice through that first conversation, It doesn't mean a man is any less of a leader. There's 3successful love passages in the bible where a lady was either brought up by God before the man or she presented herself, either way that's all that she did, availing/presented herself and a man had an opportunity of deciding if he sees more in her or what?
Eve was presented to Adam after being created by God. What did Adam see in her? A fellow sister? A friend? He saw weigh more in her, he saw a wife! Now was Adam less of a leader cause Eve was brought to her for convenience? He wasn't even there to protect his wife when Eve was deceived by a serpent. This in me doesn't reflect him as a good leader! This goes back to what I said earlier about pursuing or being pursued only to be frustrated.
Moving forth to the second passage about Ruth:
Ruth was even more direct than Eve! Ruth made her internsions clear but still gave enough allowance for Boaz to decide what does he see in her. Now what I love most about these two is that they both kept to their gender roles as early as then. When Ruth layed at Baoz' feet, she was communicating her willingness to submit under his leadership. Boaz took his place in early hours of the morning when Ruth was about to leave, he provided her "money" if I should make use of the word "money" in their case.
The third story is about king David with another kings wife (I have to get my bible when I get home so I can send you a valid story hear)
Long before the wife's husband died, David and the lady were already in agreement of pursuing a relationship. The lady presented herself to David not even knowing that he was intending to kill her husband together with his solders for denying then food in their hour of need.
I'll send you the last passage latter when I get home.
Now Rambo said: "There is a difference between letting a man know he should make up his mind about where things are going and taking a knee... nvm that diamond engagement rings are"
His inline with what i'm trying to express here! Relationships have no formula, neither are they sustained by issues of who approached who sis. Can both take their gender places? Were these wives less found cause they presented themselves to man?
a little suggestion to all my beloved sisters in the faith
Posted : 22 Jul, 2014 04:07 AM
@ sisygirl
yes sis, i am trying to see the points u and bro Rambo are trying to bring up. yes ur logic is right but in the natural perspective; that is according to the logic of man! But Gods logic is not mans logic. He is omniscience!! When He says something,no matter how irrational that thing may look, its still the best for the simple fact that He said it!! pls we (those who agree with me) are not saying that a woman cannot say 'hi' to a man or initiate a simple conversation. we are saying that when a woman goes up to a man with the intesion of letting him know that she wishes a love relationship with him is not biblical!
U did mentioned that Eve was presented to Adam. yes ur are right u but forget to see that Adam was just created and he had not yet known (developed comminion/fellowship with) God and his enviroment. So God had to do the "presentation"! God did not only present Eve but all creation for Adam to 'name'. u see that when that was done with, then God precceded with the laying down of principles on how Adam/eve should function on the earth and the sacrement of marraige was one of them. He said, man (not woman) shall leave his mother and father and cleave......
As concerns Ruth and Abigail that u mentioned, if u had taken time to follow this conversation from the start, u would have seen what i said concerning Ruth. so Pls go back through the whole conversation prior to ur joining.
It is not bc these women(Ruth and Abigail) presented themselves to the men that we will take them as examples. They did not do it Gods way( in His perfect Will)! But God in His infinite mercy still used them to accomplsh His purpose on earth. This teaches me that our errors and not powerfull enough to alter Gods plan! But that does not equally mean that we go ahead and do as it pleases us or he way we percieve things; after all He will still use it for His glorly! NO!! God uses our mistakes bc we as are so slow to learn and He is very patient with us guiding us to come of age spiritually. His greatest desire is for us to grow and that over rulership! It is when we are spiritually martured and grounded , rightly dividing the word of Truth that the Father can entrust unto us rulership in His kingdom. Remember, the world is waiting for the manifestation of SONS of God!! There is a great difference between a son that is still a child (Gal 4:1-2) and the one who has come of age.The ones who rule and gorvent are those that have come of age; that is those that have the mind of the Father(Christ); those that are able to understand( by the guidiance of the Holy Spirit) what God means when He says What He says in His Word. And the last time i checked, no one has arrived yet ( i don't care the title u may put before ur name)!! But we all are striffing towards that perfection where the world will actually see what a SON of God really looks like!
I end by pointing out here that spiritual maturity is not on how much u can quote scriptures acturally and present good agruements, but on how much u allow (humble) urself to be influenced by the TRUTH of Gods Word guided by the greatest teacher and gudiance, the precious SPIRIT OF GRACE!!! Be bleseed
a little suggestion to all my beloved sisters in the faith
Posted : 22 Jul, 2014 04:17 AM
whe i said its not bilbical what i meant by that is that, its not there for instructions! it is not How God intended it to be; in short, its not His best!!
