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Exposing the devil with the light of the HOLY spirit
Posted : 30 Oct, 2012 10:19 PM

Love is love, Hate is hate, both are GODLY.....Love is giving, hate is taking away. ......Evil is Evil, and Wicked is Wicked. We are evil by nature, but wicked is choosing to be evil. I am tired of the stereo type against hate. The absence of love is HATE. Husbands....when you are NOT loving your wife....you are hating her. Wives, when you are NOT loving your husbands you are HATING him! When you are giving to another person...you are hating all others. When you are giving to another person, you are taking YOUR time away from everyone else. LEARN THE DIFFERENCE OF LOVE AND HATE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! STOP BEING A HYPOCRITE!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Posted : 11 Nov, 2012 03:42 AM

Dear Harry,

Harry, what is the full message of Mat 23 say about hypocrites. Also to discuss hypocrisy then it is wise to read Mat 6 as well.

Mark 6:6-7 For me captures the heart of what he is talking about. 6 He answered and said to them, �Well did Isaiah prophesy of you hypocrites, as it is written:

�This people honors Me with their lips,

But their heart is far from Me.

7 And in vain they worship Me,

Teaching as doctrines the commandments of men.�

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Posted : 11 Nov, 2012 04:25 AM

Dear Harry,

Back to the theme of your question which seems to be about hate. That hate is a Godly attribute. That the absence of love is hate.

There are a number of issues with this; the first that comes to mind is that God is love.

But God certainly does have things that he hates; He hates idol worship. We can only serve one master as we will love one and hate the other. Is this the context that the thread is written in? That they loved darkness and hated the light?

We also are called to love our enemies and to do good to those that hate us. This is God's way for us; it certainly isn't the worlds.

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Posted : 11 Nov, 2012 06:49 AM

Okay, so where did I say you was not aloud to sin? Now your twisting my words. I said DONT BE A HYPOCRITE. That means don't scorn someone for doing something wrong, and then go do it yourself! Do people LISTEN anymore to the word of GOD anymore? Or are they to filled with pride and ego that they cant be wrong, so they must put words into others mouth, and try and make them look bad? What I posted, is THE TRUTH. I did not come from me, and I will not take credit for it!

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Posted : 11 Nov, 2012 06:56 AM

GOD loves, and GOD hates. Proverbs 6:16 These six things doth the LORD hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him: [17] A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood, [18] An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, feet that be swift in running to mischief, [19] A false witness that speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among brethren



JESUS was NOT a prosperity preacher....HE is coming back VERY soon ready or not!



Keep speaking your lies, I know where they are coming from. I will keep rebuking you with the WORD OF GOD!

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Posted : 11 Nov, 2012 07:00 AM

I think that some of these fellows just didnt understand the point that you were trying to make with your OP.

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Posted : 11 Nov, 2012 04:48 PM

Dear Harry,



I was responding to your words, particularly "There will be NO hypocrites in heaven" and "If what you say is true, then every human is going to hell, but because you speak lies, there are some humans who are not hypocrites." - inline with the rest of your comments inn the thread the most reasonable way to understand and interpret your comments to mean is that hypocrites with not make it to heaven -(as others did).



If by "There will be NO hypocrites in heaven" I agree. Because we will no longer have sin in us. Praise God! But it seems clear from the two comments you were meaning by this that humans who are hypocrites in this life will not make it to heaven. Hypocrisy is sin. And it is because it is sinful that one will not make it to heaven. If this is not what you meant then please clarify your position.

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Posted : 11 Nov, 2012 05:20 PM

Dear Harry,



In regards to twisting your word Harry, I take it that this is regards to "Okay, so where did I say you was not aloud to sin?." I take it that this is response to "If anyone declares they do not sin, should we not praise God for they glorify Him? But alas, we know this would be false because all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God. Also we know that all men are liars."



Harry when did I say that you said that you were not aloud to sin? I didn't. However I explained in the previous post I explained what I thought you were saying and then the implications that it had. That was basis of the of the response "If anyone declares they do not sin, should we not praise God for they glorify Him? But alas, we know this would be false because all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God. Also we know that all men are liars."



So by your own standard then you have twisted my words and acted with hypocrisy. This is a bit of tongue and cheek but it also has a note of importance. Because i do believe that you have demonstrated hypocrisy. Perhaps not intentionally - in fact I find it hard to believe that you would. The point of this post is a response to your perception that I said that we weren't aloud to sin. So you do not believe this. Then is hypocrisy a particular sin that disqualifies us from the Kingdom of God? Or does passages discussion on mypocrisy mean something else? (Like if one is demonstrating themselves to be a Christian by all external appearances, yet in their heart they do not know Him and it is only for show?)



Perhaps now we can get back to the theme of post of knowing the difference between Love and Hate. If you would like to continue the conversation in regards to hypocrisy then perhaps it would be wiser to message me or start a new thread so that we can focus on that discussion.

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Posted : 11 Nov, 2012 05:29 PM

In response to your later post about hate.



Hate is a Godly attribute. The absence of love is hate. How does this relate to God is love? Or more specifically, God is omnipresence means that he is never absence. And therefore can never hate. As you say "GOD loves, and GOD hates" but hate doesn't seem to be consistent with the description. So the Bible is incorrect or the description is.

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Posted : 11 Nov, 2012 05:38 PM

Dear Harry,



You said, "Keep speaking your lies, I know where they are coming from. I will keep rebuking you with the WORD OF GOD!" If I need to be corrected please do so brother in accordance with God's will. So, I am to it take that this is in regards to your quoting of scripture 6:16-19. Being that you are not a hypocrite (as least I think it is fair to understand that you do not consider yourself to be one) I am assuming that you are saying that I am saying that God doesn't hate. Whereas you are providing this scripture to demonstrate that he does hate. But Harry did you miss this statement "But God certainly does have things that he hates; He hates idol worship," because this would be a misrepresentation of the position stated(and it seems fair that this is what you mean by twisting words.)

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Posted : 12 Nov, 2012 12:01 AM

Tell me which sins are worse than others.

Tell me who Christ died for.

Tell me who in heaven has not sinned.



Are you going to heaven?

Have you *ever* been hypocritical?

Have you *ever* lied?

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