Please bear with me sir, a lot of questions i'm gonna dirrect them to you specifictly. Must admit you're the reason I joined this dating site, I recall I bored, lonely for compony, just browsing through the internet, then I came across this chatt room were your replies were just too profound, wisdom filled & the sesnse of matuarity was just apilling.
I looked forth to challenge you, to argue in a healthy manner, to agree, to disagree, to learn etc
Maybe this I need to clearify so you don't wonder why am I always on your case with questions.
My qustion is inspired by the book of Ruth (its a very short passage that one can finish reading within about an hour) though one can never claim to finish the bible, cause God"s word is alive & new every morning.
Nonetheless
I'm amazed at the power of unity (since it took Ruth & Naomi to team up & work together in winning over the heart of Baoz)
I'm also picking the power of women in influencing things to better serve her motives.
Must say i'm really glad that Ruth was never taken advantage of when she went & uncovered Baoz & lie down at he's feet after Baoz had eaten & drunk , when reading the whole chapter 3. (that was quit a move, must have taken her a lots of courage to pull that one off)
Eventually she finally was married to Baoz just as she desired. (there's a lot to take inn when reading this passage)
The main question is (taking from this scripture)
Is it a woman's place to initiate?
Cause one can say she reflacted herself kinder cheap, considering that she even went in bed with Baoz, when he was not even awear that she was around.
I've been pondering on this verse for a while now, just amazed at woman's power of influence.
Thankyou sister for your humility and your respect of me.
I have to go and read that passage and meditate on it for some time before I can respond according to that scripture.
I do not think a woman should initiate relationship directly. The reason for this is that you should not be in the position to encounter rejection. When a woman initiates they are placed in a position to be rejected.
Being that God describes the female gender as the weaker gender. I dont think this is directly related to your physical strength but your emotions. Just as Eve was deceived and Adam failed to protect his woman.
When we men initiate and place our lives in the hands of a woman to reject us men we are again fulfilling our role to protect the weaker of the gender.
With this said I truly believe women should find a man she can cheer for. When you find a man who looks like he is going into a direction a you want to follow, cheer for him in this.
Your cheering for him is not going to place you in harms way in the reality of rejection. What sane man will reject a woman who shows respect and cheers for him?
Your cheering and encouragement of him shows you are interested and then provides a enviroment for him to feel safe to approace you. In unity we provide safety for oneanother and securuity.
A man does this for a woman and a woman does this for a man. We do it in differing ways according to our gender's.
Praise be to our God for the safety He provides in the shaddow of His wings. Praise be to our God that He provides acceptance rather than rejection through His dear Son Jesus...
These relational realities are only the example our God reveals to me in who He is. What greater example we have than the one who has made us?
If you think about it, our praise isnt it much like cheering?
Dear sister, I really have to thank you for your question becasue it just gave me a revelation.
We men in our pride or it is just me. I have found difficulity in being considered the bride of Christ in the past and woundered how it is so.
We men place a sex,,ual priority in marriage and i didnt like the thought of this in the past. I have come to accept this and figured that their would be a practical reason me as a man could be considered part of the bride.
It just was revealed to me through the answering of your question today. Being a bride has nothing to do sex.
It has to do with the relationship between me and Jesus. My praise and respect I show my Lord as a woman or bride would show her husband. My desire to follow him around as a woman in love wants to follow her man aslo.
My resonding to His love initiated by Him. My trusting my life with Him because He time and again protects me from my own craziness and loves me through it. His protection of me from harm.
You ladies have a double blessing if you just accept the position you are in. We men have only the oppertunity to be secure in Christ but you ladies have oppertunity to be secure in Christ and with a fellow.
The world telling you to be like men is a lie and is trying to rob you of your blessing of being a woman. Being a woman is really a place of honor above being a man.
Because isnt it better to be the one being loved than having to do the loving? Isnt it better to be the one being sacrificed for than being the one sacrificing?
Even though we are called to love and sacrifice for oneanother but in marriage I am referring the positions we are called.
We as men are called to love the world but specifically we are called to love our wives.
I think the word for wives to respect their husbands should be changed to cheer their husbands. When a woman cheers her man and tells him she is proud of him. When she tells her man she believes in him, she is showing respect by her cheering for him.
For you ladies cheering = respect.....
Now I know why Sarah called Abraham lord.
Everything is in the why......The answers are in the why....
You're most welcomed, its due to you for who & what you've reflacted about your self.
"I have to go read this passage & meditate so I can reply according to the scriptute"
Take all the time needed please, I will wait.
"If you think about it, isn't our praise much like cheering? A woman should cheer her husband, respect & support him...."
You're already touching part of the passage. Was given a revelation about these two individuals,
Baoz Reflacts God (in the revelation given me) He has everything when refering to wealth, power & love (Just like our living God)
When Ruth on the other hand was lonely & lacking (Just as the body of Christ through our individuality in churches)
Baoz was willing to share,
Though it took Ruth to lie down at he's feet in submission & cheering, that in early hours of the morning when Ruth had to leave without being seen by anyone, her need was met (though in the passage is was in a form of money, God would have even gone & met the spiritual needs)
That's exactly what God expects of us, to rest at Jesus' feet through praise, honour & glory, given to Him by us. He'll then meet what you didn't even ask nor noted as your need.
"You ladies have a blassing if you just accept the position that you're in,
Isn't it better to be loved than doing the loving part?"
Its certainly better to be loved cause there's more pressure on the one who loves than the loved one. Who would have thought that the King of kings will one day cecrifies He's throan of glory to carry the cross? That was inspired by love.
Already had important points to take from your current answer. Thank you guys (both you & DontHitthtamark) I asked you the same question & on both your different replies, I learned so much.
I have to admit I couldnt help my self but go and look at Ruths interactions with Boaz.
So here is my first observation. Ruth humbled her self and asked permission to go behind the reapers to gather, permission from an older woman Naomi her mother in law. She had respect for her mother in law.
One thing i see is ruth understood the character of Boaz knowing she would find favor in his sight. So what this tells me is she was interested in seen value in this man and where he is going like I had said. Ruth was from a distance studying Boaz,s life.
For her distance wasnt enough so now she decides to be closer to him by going to his fields and be part of those who would gleem the corners of the field as the poor would do. As God commanded those with a field to do that the poor would be cared for.
This tells me that they had differing social status and this tells me boaz was a good man of god.
But next out of all those who are not mentioned reaping with Ruth, Boaz when he comes looks and notices a woman. You see this is not the first time Boaz notices Ruth because what he says in verse.
1:5 but his question is only retorical because he knows all already.
She asks Boaz why such favor he is showing to her. He tells her all that was reported to him. Now I believe when Ruth came into town that Boaz also had his eye on her this is why she was so easily notticed by him else she would have just blended with everyone else.
So what I see is two individuals notticing oneanother. The woman moving closer to the man by being in his company and then the man inviting her to a privilaged place in his life. Boaz was the first to initiate with Ruth by calling her to himself. Can you see?
Ruth placed herself in a position to be notticed, can you see?
Now the relationship dynamics have increased between them. You see Ruth was in a much safer place when she was just off in the distance gleeming in the fields with others. Then she was invited to a higher social status by Boaz to gleem along side the reapers. To now placing her self in a submissive role lying at his feet. This is to communicate to Boaz that she would follow him wherever he would go.
Boaz understood this and even because he was a righteous man told Ruth that He would not be the socially first choice that there was another. Did he reject Ruth? No he did not. Actually He in their interactions promised Ruth to make her his wife.
Ruth was willing to follow and Boaz gave ruth her first assignment. He knowing this man wouldnt want Ruth probally because of who she is outwardly but Boaz was looking at the inward of a good woman.
We men are looking for a good woman and when we find her we will invite her into our lives and protect her. Give all to her and love her as Boaz loved Ruth.
