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DEEDEE72

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Posted : 6 Sep, 2010 05:05 PM

Good evening Ladies,







I was reading a post from a gentleman who says he is a "nice guy" and was curious as to why no women were intereseted in him. Your thougts?

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Posted : 6 Sep, 2010 05:13 PM

Nice is a rather generic adjective and a rather passive way of describing yourself. It would be preferable to list the types of things he does that exhibit the quality of being nice.



Every writing professor I've had has said to never use the word nice because it's a lazy word that shows a lack of creativity and enthusiasm and an inability to use a good thesaurus =) Not to bash anyone here who describes themselves as being nice!



And I know our profiles on here aren't English papers (mine certainly isn't, anyway!), but maybe this will shed some light on things anyway.

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Posted : 6 Sep, 2010 07:43 PM

"Nice guy" means two different things to men and women. To men, it means that they are respectful, polite, non-abusive, generally take care of themselves, and probably modest.



As Pixy has pointed out, these are all BAD THINGS to women. To women, "nice guy" means passive, lazy, effeminate, spineless, boring, weak, unoriginal, and probably indicates that he lives with his mom.



That's the source of the guy's problem: what he's trying to say is getting completely misunderstood by women.



He's not going to be able to teach Christian women to stop thinking like godless women, so he'll have to use some other sort of adjective to describe himself.



The sad thing is that if he was a godless abusive jerk, he couldn't keep the women away.

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Posted : 6 Sep, 2010 07:50 PM

Good evening,



I do not think that Christian women are thinking Godlessly. I think that what you have discribed as a christian woman's views of a nice are exacactly the problem. The churches seem to encourage men to not be men. When a guy says to me he is nice usually he usually is - passive, lazy, effeminate, spineless, boring, weak, unoriginal, and probably indicates that he lives with his mom.

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Posted : 6 Sep, 2010 07:59 PM

I didn't mean that nice is bad... I simply mean that it's not descriptive enough to tell me anything about the guy.

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Posted : 6 Sep, 2010 08:26 PM

nice doesent always equal confidence, in a description.

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Posted : 6 Sep, 2010 10:07 PM

There's nothing wrong with being nice at all. I think being oblivious to their own inhibitions is where a lot of people that describe themselves as a victim of caring too much or being too nice go wrong though I think. You can be nice and still be random, active, fun, and happy and NOT desperate, clingy, and controlling. Also if you do nice things and expect something in return for it to any degree, that's not nice, it's using manipulation (aka dishonesty and not upfront) to get what the want because they are afraid or don't know how to make a connection and relate to other people because in reality the only needs and wants they can think of are their own and then they take it out on women like little children that don't get what they want because they don't know how to let go... but to them they don't see any of it that way at all and say it's because they're too nice because it's more convenient to not face your own personal issues, expect more from others than they do themselves, and hope they'll magically find some one else that can magically fix them.

Hmm that turned into a rant. My bad.

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Posted : 6 Sep, 2010 10:17 PM

It was a nice one though.



:peace::peace:

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Posted : 6 Sep, 2010 10:24 PM

To paradoxes!!! :Mug::laugh:

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Posted : 6 Sep, 2010 11:34 PM

And people have such different definitions of nice too... Again, it's just a very generic word that doesn't say a whole lot. I've known rapists and child molesters who consider themselves to be nice because they have likable personalities. And most people are nice sometimes anyways! I don't think I've ever known anyone who was always nasty/mean. You might as well just describe yourself as being a human who breathes, sleeps, and eats food.



I think if a guy is feeling the urge to describe himself so generically, that he should ask himself something like: Why is it that I think that I'm a nice guy? And then he can write about the various pieces of evidence for his supposed niceness.



And when that's all a guy says? Seriously... How is a woman supposed to look at a profile that only says, "Nice guy looking for a Christian girl," and have any sense of attraction or compatibility?



Perhaps this guy that the OP knows could post on here and we could give him some pointers on his profile?

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Posted : 7 Sep, 2010 04:21 AM

"Nice" has too many puppy-like implications. Don't get me wrong, women love puppies. Take one to the park one day, and you'll see for yourself. Just like puppies, "nice guys" make for great friends. Also like puppies though, they don't elicit romantic affections and pitter-patters of the heart.

No woman goes to bed at night dreaming about falling in love with an abusive jerk either though. There has to be a third option.

Good guys take what women love about godless abusive jerks, get rid of the godless, abusive, and jerk parts, and mix in the positive qualities of "nice" guys. When any guy starts doing that, he'll have to beat the women off with a stick.

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