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Is independace Godly or another form of Pride
Posted : 13 Apr, 2010 09:46 PM

What do you laies think? I see alot of women today who are "independant", what does that word mean to ya'll?



I suppose I myself could be considered independant, but I relly heavly on God, and look for interdependant relationships with fellow christians who are Godly, and agape their Lord. :)

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Is independace Godly or another form of Pride
Posted : 14 Apr, 2010 12:44 AM

Well, to a certain extent, independence is always a form of pride. We were created to be dependent on God. Additionally, if you look at what the New Testament has to say about church, you'll see that the body of Christ is meant to be a rather close-knit group in which believers are dependent upon each other to some degree.



I really don't think they're we are to be completely dependent. I think that relationships have a lot of value w/in the body of Christ and outside of it in terms of evangelism.



Furthermore, if you're thinking of an independent woman, then perhaps you're straying into the territory of feminism, which is absolutely not Biblical at all. If you're thinking of it terms of being able to survive on your own... well, then there are certain things that a lady should learn to do for herself! But, even then, the body of Christ should be there to care for her. But a lady shouldn't be helpless. If we look at the Proverbs 31 woman, we can see that she is not helpless at all, but not what we would call independent either.

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Is independace Godly or another form of Pride
Posted : 14 Apr, 2010 12:47 AM

This thing really need an edit button! grrr...



What I meant to say in my middle paragraph was: I really don't think they're we are to be completely INdependent.

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Is independace Godly or another form of Pride
Posted : 14 Apr, 2010 08:45 AM

no, we're to have fellowship with one another, that's how we're built up, but I think your referring to an introvert.

Also remember that not everyone is outgoing and extrovert. God created us all with different personalitites (thank God).

I know plenty of intercessors that are usually alone, the same with prophetic people. Individuals with the pastoral anointing are not alone they gather lots of people because they love to be around people. The same with teachers...



Independance how I referred to it in the other post comes from raising my kids alone and having to make it happen without their father. When I got a flat tire, I had to fix it myself, when the pipes were clogged in the kitchen, i had to fix it myself, when the vacuum broke I had to fix it, when I was sick, there was no one to help me and I still had to work to put food on the table. I didnt choose to do it alone, that's the way it happened.

To be clear Mr RAbbit, I meant that through everything I have been through, it will be a process for me adjust to submission to my husband. BUT every single mother knows what I'm talking about.

I learned the hard way not to be judgmental on others and love them and that's what I will do with you...love you.



Blessings,

Riveroflife

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Is independace Godly or another form of Pride
Posted : 14 Apr, 2010 08:59 AM

i think it's another form of pride because God alone is sovereign. when we tell ourself we are independent what are we really saying?



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Is independace Godly or another form of Pride
Posted : 14 Apr, 2010 11:56 AM

When a woman says she is independant, I think she hardly means independant from God. I think she mostly refers to being financially independant.



A mother who has to raise her children alone, is forced to be independant. Nobody, not even the church, does the typical male things for her. So female independance sometimes is a consequence rather than a choice.



There is also a pridely form of independance. That is thinking you do not need anyone. In a relationship, people can continue thinking that they do not really need someone.



And of course, people can think that they do not need God, except for the fixing & forgiving. That makes them both independant and dependant in the wrong way.

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Posted : 14 Apr, 2010 12:33 PM

Hummmm...Ima speakin only fer my self here...Ima Independantly Dependent upon GOD/Jesus...

Indepentant as I have no Man / Mate ...so I must take care of my self as all of us has ta do...work ta buy food, gasoline..etc...ta make tithes / offerins, pay bills an sometimes do an outtin with friends...

Dependant upon GOD/Jesus for all of this...cuz He is the MAN...without GOD/Jesus I am nothin an can do nothin worthy of Him an His Grace of Salvation...He is everythin ta me...:hearts:...xo

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Posted : 14 Apr, 2010 02:21 PM

sheeze, thank you God's Jude...

I suppose if you've never been through it, you wouldnt be able to understand, right?



If we as Christians, do not understand that we are dependant on our Lord, then yes there is a problem with pride. Why wouldnt we want to be dependant on Him anyway?

He is our source!!!!!!!



Love n blessings,

Riveroflife

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Posted : 14 Apr, 2010 08:22 PM

To men, that word means the woman has had to do things on her own. Fixing a tire. Raising kids. Paying bills. Fixing things around the house. Cooking , cleaning, being chauffer...... etc etc. All by herself. Which does not mean (at all) that she would not want a man to help her and come alongside. It just means that she knows she is able to do things on her own, that if you were to take her home to be your wife you would not have to be her all in all. She is able to do things on her own.

Not sure if that all made sense.

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Is independace Godly or another form of Pride
Posted : 14 Apr, 2010 08:30 PM

Depends on how you look at the statement I suppose. As a single mom I had to do all sorts of stuff alone. It was just God and me. I have to say He was my protector, supplier, supporter and the One I ran to frequently. So, I was very dependent on Him, but also had to learn a huge amount of stuff to live alone. He has provided all I have needed and allowed me to succeed in a few areas and have fun doing it also. He makes an awesome husband. So, am I independent? I am independent from support and help of other humans but dependent on our wonderful heavenly Father.

Funky

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Is independace Godly or another form of Pride
Posted : 14 Apr, 2010 09:06 PM

I know exactly how you feel Funky, Im doing it now, not my favorite situation, and he does make an awesome love. My hope is that I find a woman like Him. :)

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