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Posted : 30 Nov, 2009 03:15 PM

friends, what are decent pictures to show the opposite sex.I am turned off by pics that show too much.I am voicing my opinion here as I do not like bikinis, and recently I saw a low cut top showing tatoes on the womans front.I find this to be disturbing. Is this the witness we want others to see?

I like clean cut pics,ok.Dennis

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Posted : 2 Dec, 2009 05:26 PM

Hello Dennis! --- I've experienced the same thing. That is, either in the form of sexually provocative pictures or nicks. Since this is where we guys are supposed to be asking ladies about this, I'll defer to them. However, I would assume (in advance) that women are probably divided on what's appropriate. I will add that since people (men and women both) have different standards; it's probably going to to impossible to avoid seeing sexually alluring pictures, wherein people are doing it deliberately. I've been considering leaving the site due to this. It's simply *not a good thing* to go on a "search" to find a nice Christian lady -- only to see (from the main pictures on profiles) too much skin, women laying on beds, and I won't mention what else. Btw, women I've talked with in Over 40 have complained about the same thing coming from men, I felt I should add. Thanks.

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Posted : 3 Dec, 2009 05:38 AM

Bravo Gentlemen, I am glad to hear this from you for I just posted on ask the men pretty much the same concern, for often I see these seductive pictures of women, and men are all over welcoming them to the forums, when their cleavage leaves little to the imagination and the "pose" often matches the ideals expressed on view of sexuality etc. I really haven't noticed that sort of "Hey Baby!" flirty stuff with women that truly do present themselves for the Christians they profess and live by. So I asked the men to be candid about this, for obviously there are women that aren't getting message or maybe they are and I'm not.





Men, what I want to see is your SMILE and your personality. I am intrigued with integrity and a walk that shows what the Lord means to you. I don't really know you, I don't want to know what you really look like with out a shirt,nor do I want you to be able to picture what I look like with out mine. I want you to fall in love with my heart for the Lord, and my heart for others. Any photo on a bed should be considered inappropriate by the moderators I would think. After all, I have had to rephrase a line for saying the word "on" instead of "for" when I expressed divorce was hard "for' children. Yet we can have people asking on the forums if others are "prudes" and that is somehow okay. She went with the direction the wind took it, which was no real surprise.



Am I the only one tempted to say, "Put on a shirt and we'll talk" to some of these people? Or "Do you always entertain guests in your bedroom?" or do you "pose" like that for everybody?



If people will act like this for total strangers? How strange will they actually behave when they really start dating someone they ARE interested in? I mean really, you can say that you are saving it for marriage, but when your own body language calls you a liar, what do you expect someone interested in you will expect in return. That is what I want to say to them.



Really, if someone begs people to look, are they really going to protest when someone responds and wants to touch? If a person can give away their image so lightly, how hard is it to give away your body, and how close are you really to giving away your soul?



If Jesus called and said He would be over in five minutes, is that what you would wear to the door? and when you invite Him in, will you be entertaining Him in the bedroom?



People who do this make it difficult for those of us that strive to do what we know is right Biblically, and those that respond to it only encourage the behavior.



Maybe what is really appropriate would be to report abuse to the moderators for if our innocent words can be interpreted to mean something other than what they are, then a picture being would a thousand words is really saying so much more. Truthfully though, I think they will continue to act as they do as long as people just cannot wait to drool all over them because they are suggestive.



There. Now I hope others will have the courage to say how they really feel, one way or the other.



Tarasye

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Posted : 3 Dec, 2009 12:01 PM

dear folks, please dont point out folks individually by name or be a reference leading straight to them when speaking of things in general that bother you about them or something theyve done that bothers you. .. cause by doing so that can lead to a breaking of the rules on insults here. if we keep our comments in general then we can have really good discussions.. thanks folks

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Posted : 3 Dec, 2009 02:52 PM

Sorry to offend you Ole Cattle, by the looks of the responses on the other thread, it would seem such things are so ingrained with some of the men that they have not even noticed, and believe it is just a simple way to say "Hi, I'd LIKE to get to know YOU!" And yet not one person addressed that casual little flirt play that goes on with these women, which is inappropriate and only encourages them. I would hate to think that would be a valid reason to step up and defend it.



Maybe its kind of like porn. According to the porn industry, their most successful consumer lists come from Christian websites. Sometimes statistics speak volumes that otherwise go unsaid. Not one man had the courage to say that they cannot resist a jezabelle, yet if you pay attention its true.



It is not my intent to blatantly scream, but just to to say "hey, put your clothes on." and "Behave with dignity and respect as the Bible teaches" Because what it attracts even on a Christian website, might not be what they hope to find. I have seen the same behavior a local Christian singles events. One night a girl complained of being cold and was given a table cloth to cover up with for the result was disturbing at least, but the attention was pathetic.



It is offensive, not only to look at, but to see men that claim to be Christian all over it, and not for the reasons they would like to profess.



Maybe if they see themselves in this post they will consider changing their photos. But likely not if men defend them, for that is the very reason they use those photos.



So if you truly believe, men, that women should not present themselves this way, then stop encouraging them. For I guarantee if one of us more reserved women asked some of the same things these people ask, we would not be treated in the same "flirty" manner.



The truth is not always pretty, but sometimes it can be pretty disturbing. Maybe we all need to self examine and adjust our behavior. I have waiting a long time holding my tongue on this, and perhaps I should have held it longer. I by no means feel we need to go back to burkas, but if women on here did, the men wouldn't speak to them, they would still be all over the bikini brigade.





You won't say its inappropriate men....so I did.



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Posted : 3 Dec, 2009 03:51 PM

This is sort of a general response to the posts on here and on the "Ask a guy" forum.



I think that when it comes to pictures, there is a HUGE difference between attractive and provocative. There is nothing wrong with posting those pictures that portray us as pretty (for the girls), handsome (for the guys), attractive, and appealing. However, when we cross that invisible line (and it is different for every person) and cause another person to lust, that's wrong.



That's just my opinion!

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Posted : 3 Dec, 2009 04:06 PM

dear tara, no offence taken by me.

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Posted : 9 Dec, 2009 05:29 PM

Hi Dennis,



I have found that most of the women that come here, come out of their own self serving motives, and not to please God.



It is a tragic shame that in this day and age, you can hardly find a self respecting woman anymore. Not even among those professing to know Christ.

It really grieves the Holy Spirit in me, and vexes my spirit man whenever I am contacted by such women.



My question to the women on this site is:



Why do you think that some of your quote " God fearing" sisters act like it is okay to expose themselves in this way, before God, all the people who viist this site?



Do you think that they are truly looking to be considered as a Godly wife? Is there some other motive?



Lastly, why is there not much teachings on Godly dressing by both men and women from the pulpit, in light of what God spoke in Isaiah 3:16-26, 4:1-6



Your thoughts please

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Posted : 9 Dec, 2009 05:49 PM

Amen Sister!!!! Spoken like a true champion for Jesus Christ. I could not have said it better. You are so on the mark.



This is one of the main issues the Lord told me to address in the process of planting this ministry work which he has called me to.



He must be repairers of that breach upon the sanctuary of the Lord.

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Posted : 9 Dec, 2009 06:10 PM

dear devoted, welcome to the forums.

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Posted : 9 Dec, 2009 09:42 PM

Devoted, you have a valid point about self serving, and it works both ways as well, lots of shallow people in the world using the latest "gimmick" to score what they want rather than searching for what God might want for them. Looking around there is so much self centered motivation in the world today that I find it a true wonder that God even likes us at all, more less loves us despite all the things that are so despicable in general, more or less to some degree or another in each of us. But yeah, when it really screams like that, I tend to wonder how it can be so ignored by people that are doing it, and I think that stretches even beyond photos. I always chuckle at the ones that want a Godly Woman, yet they want her to be physically comparable to a supermodel, then they wonder why they always end up with women that are just self centered (like they are). I am sure women are that way too, to some extent, but until we start looking beyond the desert line, it will be hard to find a substantial relationship that is sustaining, fed in the bread of the Word, rather than eye candy that knows how to say just what someone wants to hear so they can get what they want.



Beautiful in the Bread of Life shows, and you see people like that on this forum that have real opinions that have a biblical perspective and you can tell they give thought to their walk and how they live their lives. Those are the ones that shine like precious metals and stones in that Godly way that people all say they want. Such people are very average people, not supermodel material at all for the most part, but they become very attractive to us and when they are away, we miss them.



I can understand if someone is just too far away to pursue a relationship, for I feel you need to be close enough to get to know each other on a level beyond email. I realize my part of the country is remote, but often I have invited people that are local to just come to an event to get to know other Christian Singles in the area, and time and again, no response at all of any kind, which I believe is a subtle way of saying "leave me alone" which I can respect, for nobody likes a stalker.



Shouldn't we all want to get to know each other as friends? I find that so much easier than the "lets have coffee" thing where there is so much pressure that it seems more like a job interview on both ends.



But to return to the point, I very much agree with the self centered self serving attitude being out there today, but in both genders, and I think it is becoming more and more so, which leads me to think that Paul might be right, remaining single may not be a bad thing at all.



Tarasye

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