Author	Thread: mark of the beast
Admin	mark of the beast Posted : 23 Jul, 2013 08:27 AM is it more simply called money? Post Reply
DontHitThatMark View Profile History	mark of the beast Posted : 23 Jul, 2013 11:07 AM Eh...I'd say the mark of the beast comes from following man's traditions instead of God's commandments. I've always thought that the "mark" is spiritual, and when it says that "they will have it in their forehead or in their hands", it represented people's "minds" and "works". The Jews were supposed to bind God's law on their hands and as frontlets between their eyes. Deuteronomy 6:6-8 6 And these words, which I command thee this day, shall be in thine heart: 7 And thou shalt teach them diligently unto thy children, and shalt talk of them when thou sittest in thine house, and when thou walkest by the way, and when thou liest down, and when thou risest up. 8 And thou shalt bind them for a sign upon thine hand, and they shall be as frontlets between thine eyes. As with most things with the Jews and the sanctuary, it's was all very symbolic of spiritual things. So it makes a little sense that conversely, a "mark of the beast" would be similar "spiritual" representations on the hand and between the eyes, to signify obedience to "Satan", or to "men's tradition" instead of obedience to God. "And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name. Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus." In that verse, the Mark of the Beast is contrasted with those who keep the commandments of God and have the faith of Jesus. Anyway, perhaps the mark is something physical, but watch out that you don't receive the mark of the beast in a spiritual sense, that would be far more dangerous. And I doubt that God is going to torment everyone who simply uses money. :goofball: :peace::peace: Post Reply
View Profile History	mark of the beast Posted : 24 Jul, 2013 04:18 AM time,money,property are all traditions of men? Post Reply
View Profile History	mark of the beast Posted : 24 Jul, 2013 04:55 AM So when God increases Abraham what was that?When God sent His people into the promise land and increased them, what was that? When God increased Jacob, what was that? Post Reply
DontHitThatMark View Profile History	mark of the beast Posted : 24 Jul, 2013 05:54 AM I guess you could say that, but I meant traditions or rules that directly oppose commands from God himself. God never said "thou shalt not use money", in fact, He has commanded that tithe should be given to him. So, for example, a "mark of the beast" could be refusing to submit tithe to God after being convicted about it, by claiming that it doesn't matter any more when God has never said that it doesn't matter any more, thereby following our own "rules" and "traditions" instead of God's commands. :peace::peace: Post Reply
View Profile History	mark of the beast Posted : 24 Jul, 2013 12:38 PM Yup!!!...xo Post Reply
View Profile History	mark of the beast Posted : 25 Jul, 2013 10:15 AM Let as many servants as are under the yoke count their own masters worthy of all honour, that the name of God and his doctrine be not blasphemed . 2 And they that have believing masters, let them not despise them, because they are brethren; but rather do them service , because they are faithful and beloved, partakers of the benefit. These things teach and exhort . 3 If any man teach otherwise , and consent not to wholesome words, even the words of our Lord Jesus Christ, and to the doctrine which is according to godliness; 4 He is proud , knowing nothing, but doting about questions and strifes of words, whereof cometh envy, strife, railings, evil surmisings, 5 Perverse disputings of men of corrupt minds, and destitute of the truth, supposing that gain is godliness: from such withdraw thyself . 6 But godliness with contentment is great gain. 7 For we brought nothing into this world, and it is certain we can carry nothing out . 8 And having food and raiment let us be therewith content . 9 But they that will be rich fall into temptation and a snare, and into many foolish and hurtful lusts, which drown men in destruction and perdition. 10 For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted after , they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows. 11 But thou, O man of God, flee these things; and follow after righteousness, godliness, faith, love, patience, meekness. 12 Fight the good fight of faith, lay hold on eternal life, whereunto thou art also called , and hast professed a good profession before many witnesses. Post Reply
DontHitThatMark View Profile History	mark of the beast Posted : 26 Jul, 2013 08:24 AM I see what you're getting at now, Paul is saying that "greed" and "gain-getting" is the root of all evil, but you can classify all sin as "greed" or "selfishness" in some form. Self-seeking goes against every command of God. If you want to narrow it down to what the mark of the beast is, it get's a little more specific. "For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world." :peace::peace: Post Reply
View Profile History	mark of the beast Posted : 28 Jul, 2013 07:44 AM i hear media talking mark as in a something physical,i.e. rfid,implant,microchip. mark can also be a scale/span/point of measurement? some say ten headed beast of revelation is E.U./U.N. others say it is America/New World,others say Rome/Vatican, others say Babylon/Kuwait. either way, beast is a society? thanks You :waving: Post Reply
DontHitThatMark View Profile History	mark of the beast Posted : 29 Jul, 2013 05:41 AM From what I understand, the beast "from the sea"(sea=many people) is apostate Christianity which has it's roots in Europe and began in Rome, and the beast "from the earth"(earth=few people) is apostate Christianity which has it's roots in America. In the last days, both beasts unite to control the world, and they both promote traditions of men over the commands of God. The first beast began the apostasy, and the second beast makes people worship the first beast through the "image to the beast". Translated literally, the traditions and persecutions that began with Roman Catholicism in the middle ages, still have their footprint in modern Christianity, and there will come a point where Christians will need to decide whether to follow men or God, to keep their "traditions" or to keep God's commandments. If you look at the festivals and holidays that Christians observe, you can tell that paganism seeped in somewhere and they just put christian titles on them. December 25th has nothing to do with the birth of Jesus, and while I don't think there is anything wrong with observing Christmas as a holiday, I do think that it should be a pretty strong signal to Christians everywhere that we need to search ALL our beliefs for latent paganism and traditions that go against God's commands. "Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: Fear God, and keep his commandments: for this is the whole duty of man." :peace::peace: Post Reply
View Profile History	mark of the beast Posted : 29 Jul, 2013 10:38 AM Thank YOu Donthitthatmark, this is pretty exciting, we are soooooo young in the eternal scheme of things.... we are still new at this:yay: Post Reply