Author	Thread: DEAR CDFF MEMBERS...
Admin	DEAR CDFF MEMBERS... Posted : 27 Jul, 2012 06:21 AM To the members of CDFF, I have watched BobBobbins for some time now and believe that others on this forum should be better equipped in seeing what may be happening, from a perspective other than BobBobbins� while dialoging with him. Dear CDFF members, Please take the following statements I have compiled from 26 pages of BobBobbins� posts and imagine for a moment communicating to your husband or wife in like manner� Imagine, as a parent or teacher, communicating to a child in this way� You are the one who is the Pharisee� For the sake of illustrating your error here� The entirety of your argument is thrown completely out the window� Your faulty exegesis of Matthew 19 leads to a totally erroneous understanding of the passage� My point by point refutation of your article really wasn't for your benefit� Your confusion appears to lie in not understanding� Here again, your question illustrates your lack of understanding� Your thinking illustrates that when you deviate so badly� Are you yet without any spiritual understanding? Are you a Pharisee? Are you a false teacher? It appears that you are consistently trying to trip up the true men of God with your unreasoned questioning� Not to point out the obvious, but you haven't even made a feeble attempt� If you are standing on the truth, then refute my points� You might convince a handful of fools and simple minded folks with that style but everyone else sees clearly that you are defeated� Over and over, I see ridiculous conclusions such as the one that you have drawn� Sadly, the evidence shows� You fail on two major fronts� You demonstrate all of the traits/characteristics of the "stone thrower" from your article� You are a FOOL, a self described STONE THROWER, a JUDGE without MERCY, and most glaringly a HYPOCRITE� Your doctrines and teachings are those of an ANTIchrist� I am trying to understand your position which is schizophrenic� Perhaps, your lack of understanding is what condemns you� Maybe you are a STONE THROWER� All I can say is "wow." Talk about polluting a bored with off topic ranting� Over and over, I see ridiculous conclusions such as the one that you have drawn� Now, you are taking cover behind a woman's skirt� I am challenging you to come out from behind that skirt� Be a man and defend your article. Can you do that? At the end of the day, I believe that you still fail� In addition, I believe that you have no clear understanding� You bring an unteachable spirit to the discussion� Once again, you "gathered" wrong� Since you have chosen to take a low road� It's painful to have to be so tedious, but alas I guess you made it necessary� Exposing your watered down middle of the road back side kissing teachings� You boast now a victory you don't have! You have never addressed the scriptures i provided by point by point refutation because you are incapable� Your teachings are weak� You are cowardly! With your continued childish cutting and pasting� You have been warned� He is merely another incompetent windbag.. Such a notion, in my eyes, seems intellectually incompetent and just plain lazy� You have a glaring problem somewhere in your exegesis� Due to sloppy interpretations such as the one that has just been offered� Rather than humbling yourself to receive instruction� Out of the abundance of the heart.. the mouth speaks�DEAR CDFF MEMBERS, IT IS IRONIC THAT THE POSTER SHOULD USE THIS PARTICULAR VERSE IN LIGHT OF WHAT HE HIMSELF HAS WRITTEN Who is the liar here? Contradiction after contradiction� Lots of smoke but not much fire� That you were so lacking in compassion in the first place� Now, you want a gold star and a brownie for finally getting it right� Everytime they hit their keyboards, the errors expose themselves. All I do is highlight them for the readers�.AGAIN, CAUTION MUST BE EXERCISED WHEN POINTING OUT THE FAULTS OF OTHERS Yours is an impotent god and a worthless gospel... a god with no power to save� Rather than wasting "the whole world's time", why don't you go work out your own salvation� He reasoned poorly just like you� Is it even necessary for me to quote the scripture to prove such an elementary point? Shouldn't anyone who calls themselves a "Christian" already understand such a foundational issue? Personally, I find all of your statements blasphemous-but it�s the logical outcome of the reprobate anthropocentric mind� That is YOUR god� I have read many of your posts and I just shake my head at most of them. I never bother to respond since I wonder what is the point? I really can't help but just shake my head� Once again, you have come here teaching falsely� As long as you keep spewing false doctrine/theology� You are a woman -take responsibility for yourself and for the woman's role in a marriage� If you are divorced, you are NOT an expert on making a marriage work, contrary to your opinion. We don't need to hear about what you think you learned. Not until you have proven yourself in the context of a new healthy marriage. Those who have been and stay married for years are the experts�.DEAR CDFF MEMBERS, HERE, I MUST INTERJECT THAT NOT ONLY IS THIS STATEMENT AN AD HOMINEM, (MANY OF THE STATEMENTS COMPILED HERE ARE) BUT THAT THE POSTER ALSO FALSELY CLAIMS TO REPRESENT EVERYONE ON THE FORUMS BY CLAIMING THAT �WE� ARE IN AGREEMENT �ANOTHER INFORMAL FALLACY. ALSO, SOLOMON, WHO QUITE POSSIBLY SINNED GREATER THAN PERHAPS ANYONE ELSE IN SCRIPTURE IN THE AREA OF MARRIAGE, DID, IN FACT, BY THE GRACE OF GOD, BRING ABOUT THE WORDS OF GOD HIMSELF ON THE SUBJECT OF MARRIAGE�. HENCE THE SONG OF SONGS BobBobbins� words continued: Post after post, you offer bad theology� I have no personal vested interest in you one way or the other� DEAR CDFF MEMBERS, Communicating to your husband or wife in this manner? Communicating to a child in this way? How might this affect someone? Being spoken to in such a way, day after day, month after month, year after year? How might this affect a congregation of people�say a church? I would be interested to know how this has affected some of you? DEAR CDFF MEMBERS, Please notice that if, from BobBobbins� posts, you separate the scripture he has quoted and his textbook explanations of scripture, which can be found on a number of Reformed Theological Sites online (such as the Puritan Board), what you�re left with is a collection of BobBobbins� personal statements, many of which have been quoted above. This would be called rightly dividing the words of a man from alongside the Words of our Lord. SOMETHING ELSE THAT SHOULD BE NOTED, From my experience, I believe that out of 26 pages of BobBobbins� posts, which I read, not a single one dealt with what God has done in BobBobbins� own life. Not a single one of his posts describes, in a relational or transparent way, a close, personal, loving and growing relationship with our Lord Jesus Christ, which is where true biblical teaching flows from. DEAR CDFF MEMBERS, I have not written this in order for any of you to belittle BobBobbins. On the contrary, I�ve written this in order that you might better love, in understanding and correction, one of your brothers in Christ, who is not only gifted, but who has given himself greatly to the pursuit of God�s Word on our behalf. I have however written this so that posters will not continue to feel intimidated or taken captive by BobBobbins� textbook theological and philosophical arguments, which, can easily become the whitewashing on a tomb full of a dead man�s bones. � Love (Christ) is patient, love is kind. It (He) does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.� 1 Corinthians 13:4-7 �If I have the gift of prophecy, and know all mysteries and all knowledge; and if I have all faith, so as to remove mountains, but do not have love (Christ), I am nothing. 1 Corinthians 13:2 May each of us continue in the Grace of our Lord Jesus Christ. GOD BLESS Post Reply
View Profile History	DEAR CDFF MEMBERS... Posted : 27 Jul, 2012 07:04 AM Concerned, I see you really spread your post around. You are really hurt and offended arent you? Concerned brother, James 4:1 asks where do wars and fights come from among you? James is speaking to the church and I ask what James asks. Specifically to you since you asked. What is the purpose of pointing out all of Bobs flaws specifically? If you feel Bob is doing this with you why return the same? I dont expect everyone to agree with me and I certainly dont agree with everyone. I would ask you in love brother. Can you take criticism and still stand on your convictions? Can you take criticism and return love instead? Can you take criticism and offer forgiveness? Can you take criticism and sacrifice for the one who is seeking to destroy you? Is that not what Jesus did? Follow Jesus, Michael Post Reply
View Profile History	DEAR CDFF MEMBERS... Posted : 27 Jul, 2012 07:53 AM I am responding to others regarding this post in the Biblical Questions and Answers forum, at the following link... http://www.christiandatingforfree.com/cdff/CDFF_generic/forum/forum_details.php?topic_id=15805&forum_sub_cat_id=14 Post Reply
View Profile History	DEAR CDFF MEMBERS... Posted : 27 Jul, 2012 03:09 PM Concerned Brother Again I find the same post here too! I was just wondering whether you are the fourth person in the Trinity,because it seems to me that you have all the rights to judge and condemn.... lol First of all, Posting your findings or concerns about Bob's posts on the chat forum (for public consumption) was a wrong Idea! I am not judging you but i thought you would be different since you were trying to "correct" a fellow brother in Christ! the best you would have done was to write to Bob privately and with love! So what do you want us to do? judge him? condemn him? or post a series of advice to him in response to this thread? We have different personalities;we may never realize that we are doing something wrong until someone else tells us.if you have concerns with Bob's responses and posts, do you mind to correct without accusing? and could you please put a little of love there? I am very sure that out of the the many words he wrote, some of his advice/posts had 'sense' and was helpful to someone out there... And guess what bro? WE ARE ALL ON THE SAME BOAT! Stay blessed! Post Reply
teach_ib View Profile History	DEAR CDFF MEMBERS... Posted : 27 Jul, 2012 09:13 PM Yes, I am posting my thoughts again. Bob has used very little discretion on all of hese threads on how he addresses those he disagrees with. Thanks Concerned Brother! �It is a sad summarization of the inappropriate dialog that Bob consistently uses in his posts. Bob displays a pattern of this type of behavior in public then 'reaches out' in private as if he is the one being attacked. �He was confronted on another thread. �He eventually offered a public apology for his actions. I am restrained by the Holy Spirit from responding to his direct attacks on me and others that I have observed. �He recently 'reached out' to me in private after a string of his remarks. �I responded to him in private explaining that if he would leave the personal attacks and name calling out and stick to discussing what he disagrees with or provides what he thinks is the truth it would be far more productive (not necessarily the exact words I used lest he accuse me of lying...but that was the gist of my comments to him). He showed in a couple posts that he could do that and then went back to his standard tactic of attacking the individual. � What amazes me is the number of people who are defending him...and the fact that he has not been banned from the site for violation of the forum rules which state: "Obscenity, Inappropriate Language or Insults WILL NOT BE TOLERATED HERE. If you are found to be in violation of these terms, your profile will be deleted and you will be banned from the site. " He continues to insult anyone who he doesn't agree with him as evident from the laundry list of insults provided by the OP. 1 John 4:20�If a man say, I love God, and hateth his brother, he is a liar: for he that loveth not his brother whom he hath seen, how can he love God whom he hath not seen? �21 And this commandment have we from him, That he who loveth God love his brother also. Bob wrote: "Your personal remarks like this are designed to undermine the messenger. " � Me: you undermine your message with the tactics you use. Post Reply
View Profile History	DEAR CDFF MEMBERS... Posted : 27 Jul, 2012 11:41 PM Teach So who is your post trying to help! Did you consider explaining all your concerns first to Bob? One thing that we have to understand is that we are human besides our commitment to ministry or serving God and that means that mistakes are inevitable (most times, unknowingly!) Do you really think that Bob's intentions were to keep tearing other people down with his language? Personally i commented on one of bob's post's(which seemed to me as really rude). I kindly explained to him where he went wrong and he responded by apologizing because he realized his mistake.... We are weak and sinful right from birth! Like i said earlier, can we correct each other without accusing? Fine, i am not saying that Bob's statement in some of his comments were good but the point is that how should we help or put him on the right track? Remember what Proverbs 27:17 says? The fact that no one has come up to critic or write his/her observation about what i have posted on the chat forums does not mean that i am any better! Nope, we are all on the stuck in the same thing including you! so we just have to find a way of helping or sharpening or making each other! Post Reply
teach_ib View Profile History	DEAR CDFF MEMBERS... Posted : 27 Jul, 2012 11:55 PM I am restrained by the Holy Spirit from responding to his direct attacks on me and others that I have observed. �He recently 'reached out' to me in private after a string of his remarks. �I responded to him in private explaining that if he would leave the personal attacks and name calling out and stick to discussing what he disagrees with or provides what he thinks is the truth it would be far more productive (not necessarily the exact words I used lest he accuse me of lying...but that was the gist of my comments to him). He showed in a couple posts that he could do that and then went back to his standard tactic of attacking the individual. � As I pointed out, I did addresses my specific concerns in private as I would not address them in public until now. Since Bob has been 'admonished in private' by obviously many people as indicated on this topic, and in public on specific threads, it is appropriate to 'admonish' him to the 'group'. Post Reply
View Profile History	DEAR CDFF MEMBERS... Posted : 28 Jul, 2012 12:20 AM You are relentless and then some. It's showing way more about your character right now than it is mine, Post Reply
teach_ib View Profile History	DEAR CDFF MEMBERS... Posted : 28 Jul, 2012 12:47 AM I addressed the questions asked of me by reporting a portion of my post. I added the last line as you often use a line similar to that in your responses. Post Reply
View Profile History	DEAR CDFF MEMBERS... Posted : 28 Jul, 2012 10:33 AM I would like to apologize to MyDreamtime33 for sounding as if I were him. I thought it would be good to sound like such a person. In the past, Dreamtime has used the forums here as a means of educating us about our faith, as none of us are able to attend Christian schools. My name is Marco, and I lost my parents when I was 7 because of physical and verbal abuse. My brother's names are William, Alier and Deng. Each of them lost their families to violence in Sudan. My beloved brother Cody, has strengthened me with the words and knowledge to use in my posts here on CDFF, though he himself is unable to actively participate because he is only 15. If not for Cody, we would have been unable to stand against such arguments as Informal Fallacies. Though I have not worked in a group home for 5 years, I have lived in one for 11 years. Though I haven't worked with counselors, I have been forced to speak to secular counselors all my life. Though I have not worked with different churches or ministries, I hope that someday I will be able to do so by the grace of God.... Post Reply
View Profile History	DEAR CDFF MEMBERS... Posted : 28 Jul, 2012 01:16 PM { am restrained by the Holy Spirit from responding to his direct attacks on me and others that I have observed} Good Response. Would be great if All of Us would let the "Holy Spirit' guide Us. Post Reply

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