Second virginity, third, forth etc..................>
Who believes this and who thinks this is nonsense.
The definition of a virgin is a person being either male or female who has never engaged in sexual activity.
When married I could never go back and undo those memories of my past experiences. The faces I have seen and the emotions I have felt. They have become part of me. I could never go back and feel the terror and exileration of being exposed before the opposite sex for the first time.
I could never go back and erase the guilt and feeling of lonliness after. Having to reject or be rejected by someone I was intimate with physically.
I could never believe the woman if not a true virgin could do the same. We lost something precious when we engaged for the first time in physical activity with the opposite sex.
Can we live a celibit life, yes we can. Can we live in self controll today? yes we can. But obstaining from sex does not equate virginity to me.
Unless we experience total amnesia of the mind and soul our choices will remain with us until we are purified in glory. Lets not decieve our own souls.
Are we forgiven , absolutly.
But virginity is the first time we give our selves to another. For many of us that is lost but for you who still have yours intact. Remain........
Dont allow the lies of needing to try it our before you buy or any other such pressure like you can be a second or third virgin decieve your soul. What you have is precious and protect what you have and be sure the one you give this precious gift to one day will cherish this gift and not pervert it.
I am sorry to you who this is going to offend and I know it is going to offend many but it needs to be said and I have to be the one with courage to do so.
HOH, I don't believe he was holding people to guilt. In fact he talked about complete forgiveness. If that was necessary. Forgiveness was not needed in my case, ever. I have no guilt concerning that.
LTM, I can understand how you would think that, especially if your experience is with several people. How could one have 'the first time' more than once? But not all people have been with several people. All we can know is our own experience and this is even how we witness to the salvation of our Lord, isn't it ... through our own personal experience in what He has done for us. :yay:
You asked for honesty?...
I was married at 20 and was a virgin, waiting until our wedding night. My husband and I were training for the ministry and mission field. Through a long twisted series of events, after he had several secret and unrepentant affairs, we divorced.
It has been 22 years and though I have never been with another man, I had my first kiss 3 years ago. I could not describe the thrilling shock that went through me when our lips touched... they were soft! I have kissed hundreds of cheeks, tops of heads and booboos for all those years, but not lips and it startled me like I'd never been kissed before in my life! I think I stopped breathing for a second. I can't imagine what it will be like to lay down with a true love, a godly man who does not just follow the Lord to earn his "prize of having a nice Christian lady".
True virginity... no. But for all intents and purposes... Absolutely!!
LTM, I have come across this in many posts that I have read, about being a secondary version etc.
What I believe is that they are wrong in their terminology. I have no idea who came up with this in the first place though but I believe it spread like wildfire.
While I cannot judge those who may have lost their virginity before marriage because it is not my place (and I know that is not what you are doing) and God has forgiven them and scattered it as far as the East is from the West. When they come to God and decide to remain celibate until marriage God honors that and physically they cannot regain their virginity in God's eyes he sees them as pure.
An older sister who used to fellowship at my church confided in me one day as part of a message God gave to her to give to me. When she was younger her father raped her and her sister, she was in a mess afterwards but to make a long story short having been saved for some time she got married, her husband knew of what had happened, she said on her honeymoon she felt the spirit of the Lord cover her as though she were a virgin and in His eyes he told her she was pure.
Many people may carry around the guilt of past experiences willful or not and while I say again though you cannot physically become a virgin, God's grace is sufficient enough to cover and make us pure by the washing of His blood, we are a new creation before Him. I just humbly think some are misguided about the terminology.
I am working with my brother for a time because my business is very slow right now. This will help you understand me a bit better.
He asked me to install something one inch below the board line. That is exactly what I did.
He came back and told me it was too low but I said you told me one inch below. He went on and interpeted what he ment. It wasnt really one inch he wanted is was how he eyed things up. Well I dont have his eyes and all I have is wht he says and the information I have.
I am much of a literalist or blck and white that makes me a fine craftsman. My brother is more of a production person. Yesterday he said it should only take 15 munutes to finish. I said I dont think so. Our interpetation of life and does play into how we view the world around us according to our personalities.
So much of my dispute about being second and third virgins is because of my exacting way of viewing the world around me. You might call that ridgid but that is how God created my mind to think.
I have strong views and I am not shy to speak them but I dont expect everyone to follow in fact I expect opposition.
But I can tell you this I love people and I care deeply about you all here and our futures.
To be honest, I couldn't care less if I fell under the classification of virgin or not. I have a child, clearly I have been with a man, so that is not in dispute.
Jesus always took the stand of 'don't look back; keep moving forward, following His voice'.
And that is something we all have to do, no matter how we ended up here.
And the best we can do is pray for and encourage each other!
The Lord could come back for us tomorrow! :bouncy:
To be honest, I am a virgin. Not a second or a third, etc. I would not marry a woman who was not a virgin. I am not judging that person's morality or sin. There are many ways to be unequally yoked, and that is one of them. I do not believe that opposites attract. People who are the same attract.
I don't really care, and if anyone uses this as a dealbreaker for a relationship, it says more about the type of person they are than the person to which they are referring.
