Author	Thread: Evolution
stegoodie View Profile History	Evolution Posted : 1 Jun, 2011 05:50 PM The topic of evolution being taught in schools recently came up in a thread about education. That being the case, I want to get peoples opinions on it. Personally, I look at evolution as a theory. It is a plausible explanation of how things came to be as they are now but it has holes and isn't perfect. Thus it cannot be fully trusted. However, I know there are many people in the world who believe the big bang and evolution happened with no guidance and so we are here by chance. I also know there are a lot of Christians who spit venom at the idea of evolution because they believe that the creation was formed in 6 days as is told in Genesis. To them, because it says so in the Bible, those 6 days must be literal days and there is no way to convince them otherwise. Personally, I'm not so sure the ideas of the big bang and evolution and the Biblical creation story are mutually exclusive. There are passages in the Bible which seem to indicate that God exists outside of time as we know it. If that is the case, how do we know that those "days" are the same 24 hour days we currently know and understand? If God is timeless and to him a thousand years is like a day, how do we know that the millions of years that so many scientists say evolution happened over are not one or two days of creation? How do we know that God did not simply use evolution as a tool to modify some of the work he did on one creature already when he was making a new one? It seems to me like that would be just like a carpenter/glassblower/sculptor doing their work. There are a lot of things about this world that only God knows and understands so I will chalk evolution up to being just that. I am not God and I was not there when he created the world so I don't know the methods he used. If evolution is true then great. It will be just another thing that I look up to God and say "I see what you did there and it is AWESOME! I'm so glad you did that!" If evolution is eventually disproven then it is simply another example of how we humans fail to comprehend our God. Thoughts? Questions? Deep comments? Orders for shamrock shakes from the peanut gallery :laugh: ? Post Reply
View Profile History	Evolution Posted : 1 Jun, 2011 08:47 PM The Lord created the earth in 6 days and rested on the 7th, I don't think he was so tired he had to rest a thousand years. Adam called his woman Eve, because she was the mother of all living. Ask the evolutionists what we are and they'll tell you we're bodies without spirits and there is no heaven, or hell. I don't know. The devil works so fast to try to take away from the glory of God's creation. Weird, huh? Post Reply
View Profile History	Evolution Posted : 1 Jun, 2011 08:50 PM 1 Corinthians 13:12 For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known. The truth is, no matter how deep and confusing things seem to us..one day we'll all know, Stegoodie. I for one can't wait! Post Reply
View Profile History	Evolution Posted : 1 Jun, 2011 11:21 PM If the universe was created by God exploding a black hole this would mean there was a event horizon (EH). Everything on the outside of the EH would continue to expand while everything on the inside without enough velocity to escape the intense gravity would fall back into the black hole. Time passes at a different rate in proportion to the amount of gravity present. While most of the universe was expanding outside the EH our portion could of still been traveling inside of it. What this means is time was passing for us inside the EH at a very slow rate due to the intense gravitational force while outside time was passing as we know it. This would mean that millions of years could of passed on the outside while just 24 hours passed on earth. The earth probably popped out of the event horizon on the end of day six and God rested. Hope this explains how God created the universe ...lol! PS, ...this is a workable mathematical theory. Post Reply
View Profile History	Evolution Posted : 3 Jun, 2011 01:27 PM the push behind the theory of evolution and those who buy into it is pretty simple really. The Bibles states that God created the universe and everything in it including humans in 6 days and rested on the 7th. As it's creator he owns everything and is owed all the Glory and everything we are. This relationship (created vs creator) implies that we are therefore under his command in all areas of our lives. This is how all of creation (including our first parents) lived and existed up until the fall. However since the fall we are all born in sin with a sinful nature and because of that we are at odds with God. We want nothing to do with him, his laws, his rules, ect. We love our sin, we love our lives and like to think we are in control and we want to do what we want to do. Evolution is a God excluding explanation of how we came about, how the universe and all that is in it came about. How all living things came to be. By buying into evolution we are excluding God because we don't want to acknowledge him as creator/owner of us and the universe, and all things in it. If we can eliminate God from the equation then our sin is only against one another, not an infinite, eternal, and sovereign God/creator. If there's no God then there is no hell/heaven no consequence for our sinful actions beyond this life. If there is no God we decide what is right and wrong. To an evolutionist the concept of creation is a scary one because it means I have a problem... a sin problem, I am at odds with my creator and I'd rather believe something I may know is a farce in order avoid dealing with the alternative. So if you think about it our sinful nature want to cling to something that we may in our heart of hearts know it's not true but will pursue that explanation because we don't want the reverse to be true. Post Reply
View Profile History	Evolution Posted : 4 Jun, 2011 02:54 PM Evolution and the big bang don't address where things came from originally. And the amount of people I speak to who cannot comprehend that God is outside of such parameters (i.e. nobody created God and there was never a time when He didn't exist) beggars belief. Truly, if they can't understand when we speak to them of earthly things, how can they understand when we speak of heavenly things?... Post Reply