Good spiritually mature words, Scott and Angel:applause::glow:
Girl 25, sweetheart, if your views and opinions are as you see them without Biblcial supoort, then you do well if you receive the knowing that you have need to sink a little deeper into the storehouse of God's word, and ask the Holy Spirit to increase your spiritual insight of God's Word of Truth, and for God's spiritual understanding and knowledge, and STOP disdaining what is written in the word, but seek to come into an understanding, for your own sakes.
Everything we do on this earth as Christians believers in our daily lives is support to reflect God in our new life in Chirst. And especially in our relationships with each others, whether they are friendships or relationships of love leading to marriage, which God created both and we are to connect spiritual with Him in those relationships with each other. If a friendship relation is not based on endearment factors pointing to Christ, honesty and trust, then it too, will fall by the wayside.
You speak from a carnal mindset as an unbeliever, and not as a person who is spiritually connected with God's word of truth deep in your spirit, proving that you are not in spiritually tune as a mature believer with what you are learning or have learned in your Sunday School classes and from reading the BIble.
Why do you think God has commanded us not to be UNEQUALLY YOKED WITH NON BELIEVERS? light and darkness does not mix!... being unequally yoked is not only in those things regarding the spiritual insights of God's Word of Truth about Jesus Christ, but it also includes in ALL THINGS in a realtionships between two people and especially in marriage... the two must have in common finanical views on money issues, raising childern, likes and dislikes, etc... all things in common, according to God's word, otherwise, how can two wlak togther as one?
If you can't trust a person, or if a person is dishonest in the start of a relationship even as friends, how will it work together for the good?... think about it!
Bbecause maybe your heart is broken right now, becasue of a dishonest untrustworthy man who came into your life and lied, and did not do and was not who YOU THOUGHT HE WAS... and you put your trust in him then you found out the truth about his lies... maybe this is why you are reistant and come across rather hostle to the idea of what God says the qualities of a loving relationship should consist of,... maybe you are only looking at yourself and that you were honest and trustworthy, but the other party was not...
Two people in a relatrionship, and it is the MAN'S responsibility to prove himsefl trustworthy and honest and ESTABLISH as God has ordained him to do so, that he is a doer of God's word toward the woman in his life... Faithfulnness and love does not work without trust and honesty.
Do you spiritually understand I Corinthians chapter 13, and Ephesians chapter 5? with insight form God as to the character of love and how it is to behavior and conduct its self?...
Woem need men who are trustworthy and honest in obedient in their relationship with GOD, and thus, he will be the same in his relationship with the woman in his life... and as God has already spoken he will love his wife as Christ loves the church and meet her needs emotionally, mentally, spiritually, financially, and physically... and there will not be a need for the woman to be in want of no good thing from her husband or for him to ask her what he can do for her.
'What part of this is not being spiritually understood by those who say differently and oppose? ... that, It is the ordained RESPONSIBILITY BY GOD, FOR THE MAN TO SET THE TONE AND OUTCOME OF GODLY RELATIONSHIP based on his relationship with Christ!... of course, that is , if you are seeking a wise and godly man, and to have a godly relationship that stands the daily tests of time, and trials, and trubilations that are bound to come in all relationships between two people.
And what that means and looks like in this context is the ability to relate to other people as actual human beings, not just a person with Bible verse Tourette's.
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That's an awsome way to put it.
Neither Godsgirl or I are saying that being trustworthy or Godly is wrong. God is the starting point of every relationship. But, there are other things that men and women need in a relationship, and those needs must be communicated to each other, we aren't just going to magically know them just because we are close to God.
Godsgirl, the only way you are going to end the discussion is to say that ET and Manscottell are right, even if they are not. They don't care what the truth is, all they care about is their own opinion.
I did not read all 5 pages of answers but my two pennies worth is it is simple:
1. Chemistry
2. Equally Compatible (people find that out by knowing each other first in the walk with Y-shua then in just life�. Beliefs, morals and values).
To expand� I am republican, if you support abortion no time for you. I believe the earth is only almost 6,000 years old, if you believe in evolution in any way � no time for you�. I believe living below my means so I can retire from work, if you spend every dollar before next paycheck, no time for you. Yes, as a friend but not a potential mate. And really lets face it if seeing you does not me feel like a woman �. No time for you.
Maybe some women are different can not picture it but maybe some are. I think human is human� we want capability and chemistry just like a man.
It�s soooo simple but only Y-shua can make it happen because it�s sooooo hard to find!!!!lol
The more I thought about it I realized I have a friend who loves for men to cry at movies.... if a man cried with me I would be turned off and think "get some" ... the point is every person needs something different .... it all falls back, I think, to each person we are all different so there is no number answer to this question.
Cobbler, yes, sure you may think its funny what Girl25 said, but what she said was empty an void and showed just how carnal she and you both really are, because you both fail to see God''s word spiritually as it relates to relationships.
WOW!... You know here's a thought , maybe you and girl25 should hook up since you both think alike and are carnally like minded... by grabs, I think you two are equally toked!!!:applause:
Cobbler, Maybe you should explain what the tiuth is as it pretains to relationships as YOU see it... you speak many words, but you have not supported what you speak with scriptures nor is it based on what God has written... maybe you don't really understand what God speaks about in Ephesian chapter 5, or how this can be, when He said two are one, and what it measn to be equally yoked.
You keep speaking your opinons that are not spiritual based on what God has already spoken, which indicates that you do not spiritual understand the concepts or the unity of a realtioship as according to what God speaks...
maybe its because YOUR spiritual relationship is not up to par as it should in relations to knowing what goes into a relationship with GOD, and between two people... Otherwise, How can you refute and deny what God says, or even question it?
You see, Its not about whose right or wrong when it comes to God's word, its about the truth of God's word regarding what He requires and expects in a realtionship between two people, so what the hostility all about. You either have spiritual insight or carnal insight, and it is obvious which is which with you and Girl25... otherwise you would not present yourselves as scoffers of God's word that is being presented to you...
So Cobbler, since you THINK you have the truth, what are the needs of a woman ouside of the emotional, mental, spiritual, financial, and physical needs? What does all this entail?
Maybe you have no idea as to what any of these mean, nor do you know that they are the same as the human needs of all people, men and women, and covers everything, when the man is in obedience to God in his relationship with God.... maybe you have SPIRITUAL NEED to examine yourself and SEE if your spiritual connections and relationshp with God, is in tack...
Also, it would be a great idea if you could spirtually define the biblical meaning of what a relationship between two people is all about
Muced, You make some VERY GOOD SPIRITUAL POINTS, and if you have a man who response to a sitiuation, or as you used as an example watching a movie with tears, or even if he did not cry when you cried, but he FELT YOUR SENTIMENTS and your emotions to the movie, and if he did it in honesty of his heart toward you, and comfrted you, this man is meeting your needs emtionally, and spiritually and givng you the due attention you have need of from a sincere heart of love and care for you.. insentive men are insentive to having a sound in tack relationship with Christ, and usually do not have such in humble obedience.
One, because he is responding to your emotions and inner feeling from his heart, and you can trust this that he is not trying to just comfort you in a vain way, and viewing you as just being a crying whinning woman..
Two, becasue your relationship with him, even if he were a friend, is based on TRUST AND HONESTY, and this makes for the untiy in the relatisonship.
Good word Muced. (sorry, if I got your name incorrect.:hearts::applause:
Mcubed, one thing I would like for you to consider is that, for Christian believers it is not a CHEMISTRY CONTACT OR CONNECTING with a suitable mate, IT IS A SPIRITUAL CONNECTION IN UNITY WITH THE HOLY SPIRIT OF GOD, that this woman or man IS the euqlly yoked person God has chosen for you... having all things in common in unity with the Spiriti of God in perfect love, that does not fade away, nor does it stop loving no matter what, nor does it fall away... because as God says in His word LOVE NEVER FAILS! It believe in the good thing about a person, it trusted in faith and honesty united together in one accord in the things of God and toward each other.:glow::hearts:
We are brothers and sisters in Christ, this not about who is right and who is wrong, this is about seeing THE TRUTH AS THE TRUTH. GOD WILL NOT COMPROMISE HIS POSITION. HE IS NOT GOING TO CHANGE FOR US WE MUST CHANGE FOR HIM.
What we need to pray for is SPIRITUAL DISCERNMENT.
Faith is acting on the word of God. Without faith it is impossible to please God. Faith without action is dead. There are no two ways in Christianity, you are either in or out, you are either a believer or you are not.
The word of God stands on His own, we don't need to defend the truth. It is not you against me, it is the devil against God
I pray for the Holy Spirit to open up our understand, so that the Spirit of God can minister to our Spirit, renewing our mind, to know what the will of God is, THE WILL OF GOD IS GOOD, ACCEPTABLE AND PERFECT.
If knowing what men/women need is related to spiritual maturity then I think everyone on this site should be worried and ask God for wisdom! (Sage advice at any time to be fair.) But this thread hasn't taught me anything I didn't already know.
Mcubed gave probably the most direct answer (I found it a little depressing, but that's just me); but some I think proved the saying of "being so godly they're no earthly use". I'm glad my Lord lived as a man rather than just preached to man!
