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Chivary
Posted : 23 Mar, 2010 02:50 PM

what is it ladies?

I ask because as they say, curiusity killed the cat. :ROFL:

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Posted : 27 Mar, 2010 04:03 PM

Arch, �Palad�n� and �Campe�n� are more for Knights as you say, and more for those who raise a standard, protect, and conquer some award.

Un hombre caballeroso / A chivalrous man is more appropriate for those men you all are describing above.

I agree in some way with you... our generation and a lot of generations behind us may have lost that Code to live for...

I strongly believe that some of them left... they may not know they are Knights, but they are... you know who? those ones who, once they have understood the value of an honor code, they learn how to live with it and for it... I think that those who learn and make the effort to be this times' Knights - no matter when in their lived they start - are more valuable than those who follow standards and traditions blindly ...

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Posted : 27 Mar, 2010 05:27 PM

First of all. I think this discussion started off hilariously. I do not know whether it was meant to, but I quite enjoyed it. Mr. Thunder, you are not only wise (other forum) but also extremely funny!



Chivalry, as I understand it, is a code for behaving like a gentleman to everybody under all circumstances.



There is a difference between courting and chivalry. Doing everything to make a lady feel comfortable looks more like courting to me.



Knights, at least the ones we had in Europe, were not always so chivalrious to ladies though. After the romancing, courting and marriage, they sometimes locked their lady up in the tower of their castle and threw away the key...



What attracts people to knights I guess is their reliability and and their code of living and dying for it.



I guess women appreciate chivalry very much. They think it is a sign of good education. However, if you never opened a door for a lady in your life, do not start on your dreamdate. Surely you will oversee one, and that will not go unnoticed...



And one more thing never oversugar your lady. She is prescious but not deficient. Making her feel special and unique is the thing.



Chivalry can be funny too (besides from spelling it wrong). I once had a lunch date with a real gentleman. He opened the door of the building to me, the restaurant was in that building together with I don�t know how many other facilities, I walked through the door.... as did everybody else.

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Posted : 28 Mar, 2010 08:23 AM

I meant this just as it was taken.A very easy going discussion with a touch of humor to it.Dennis

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Posted : 28 Mar, 2010 09:42 AM

So the only thing I really have on this is that sometimes Men/Boys...or the male species...lol they feel that they have to be like this 100% of the time...but when they do this I feel that they lose their true personality. Like I get the too nicey nice feeling from it. I have gone on a few dates with this boy a few times and he is really nice...but it's almost like he is to nice...like he's trying to hard to be nice and he loses all of his personality and I kinda find him boring right now...I am trying to break him out of his shell but so far it hasn't worked. But ya...I love it when guys open doors and act all gentlemen like but if he is going to lose all of his personality to do this then I really truly would rather have him have personality vs. having doors opened for me.





ok that's my 2 cents

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Posted : 28 Mar, 2010 02:23 PM

Jennigirl,



There is a difference between Chivalry and being a sycophant or being obsequious. A sycophant is basically a �brown nose� or �S*CK UP�, while someone that is being obsequious is one that is always fawning over you (�you're the Greatest...you're so pretty...you're the best), but in an insincere way. When it is a �learned� behaviour and not part of their natural make up...it will come across as an �affectation� and appear to be an �act�.

I would suggest that you allow him to be what he feels is a �gentleman�. Time will tell if he can continue and if it still brothers you...then have a �talk� with him about your feelings. Chivalry is all about �Honoring� your feelings. He might appreciate that.



Steve

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Posted : 28 Mar, 2010 04:11 PM

One fairly-decent way to tell if a young guy is going to be chivalrous in the long-term is this:

Spend a good bit of time around him and his parents. If he treats his mom well, there's a chance that he'll treat you well too. If his dad also treats his (the guy's) mom well, that's even better! :hearts:

That's one of the things that really worried me (and I guess still does, though not so much now that I'm actually dating someone) -- how would I know if he has a history of treating his mother badly? Or his previous girlfriends? Or his sisters? Does his father set a good example, or a bad example? It could be easy for him to fake a "caring" and "courteous" demeanor while he's with me, but how does he act around other people? :angeldevil:

I've found that with the guy I'm dating, everyone that I've met who has known him for any length of time thinks very highly of him. His parents are awesome, too. They are a very close-knit family, and he and his dad treat the mom like a queen. After I spent the day with his family, his mom told me that the way he was acting around me that day is the way he AlWAYS is...he wasn't putting on any false behaviors for me that she could tell. Of course, I know that she could easily paint a rosier-than-realistic picture of him (after all, she's his mom), but it was encouraging! :applause:

Hmm...I think I strayed off-topic...what were we talking about? :glow:

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Posted : 29 Mar, 2010 03:19 AM

BC,



It sounds like you've a "Winner Winner...Chicken Dinner!".



I'm happy for you.

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Posted : 29 Mar, 2010 06:31 AM

Thank you all for your replies,Dennis

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Posted : 30 Mar, 2010 01:03 AM

Dennis.... awesome topic and post. This was great fun to read and more inspiring to know that there are more who are old fashioned like me.....

The world truly is a gift waiting to be discovered!

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Posted : 10 Apr, 2010 12:00 AM

This may sound crazy, but I don't treat girls much different than guys. If I get to the door before anyone, I'll open it for them. It's just what nice people do. I'll even pick up the tab for my friends when I can. I don't really spend much money on girls who aren't my girlfriend though. I'll gladly prepare a nice homemade meal for a girl I'm interested in, but I don't have the money to constantly be taking girls who aren't my girlfriend out to nice dinners. Any guy can spend money on a girl, but I guarantee you I'm the first to cook her Pasta Prima Vera.



As for the comments about guys being too nice, that is usually because a guy doesn't think you'll like him for who he is, so he's trying hard to look better. Stay away from guys like that. I guarantee you that you'll be much happier with a guy who knows his value in Christ and doesn't need a girl's approval to feel validated.

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