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Posted : 30 Oct, 2013 09:52 PM

......maybe a little controversial, but here it goes......I've noticed in reading varies profiles here, and on other sites for that matter, that many of the brothers either drink socially or take 1 or 2 on occasion.



This is not to say that on profiles of sisters, that they too don't indulge. My question, which will obviously go for both genders, but right now I'm addressing my sisters........could this be something you'd compromise on? I ask because personally I've noticed that a lot of brothers who may view my profile and I in turn view theirs, they either drink socially, or on occasion. I, by choice, don't drink or smoke and that's something I just can't compromise on.



Ironically when I view these profiles, a large number of these brothers really have so many other qualities I do admire in a man.....it's just a little frustration! I can't help but wonder if amongst those few who had sooooooo many other qualities I admire, that there might have been just one who........well you guys know where I'm going with this, still knowing that who God has for me, is for me..........I just had to ask(smile)!



JUST TO NOTE***In God's Word, there are so many verses dealing with the consequences of "strong drink", in Proverbs especially, that I really didn't want to go there, but again I know this subject is sensitive to many and my intentions is NOT to offend anyone.....I just want to have a healthy, adult discussion......be blessed!

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Posted : 1 Nov, 2013 09:00 AM

I have a question for the men in Christ, would Romans 14:23 apply to this? What about 1 Corinthians 8:13?

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Posted : 1 Nov, 2013 09:18 AM

Ms. Blue Eyes,



Were you asking about Rom. 14:23 or 21, dear? Vs 21 seems more compatible with 1 Cor 8:13.



Rom 14:23

And he that doubteth is damned if he eat, because he eateth not of faith: for whatsoever is not of faith is sin.



Rom 14:21

It is good neither to eat flesh, nor to drink wine, nor any thing whereby thy brother stumbleth, or is offended, or is made weak.



1Cor 8:13

Wherefore, if meat make my brother to offend, I will eat no flesh while the world standeth, lest I make my brother to offend.

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Posted : 1 Nov, 2013 09:21 AM

@IWalkAlone then I guess apart from what the bible says, you dont have ANY preferences when it comes to finding a mate.

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Posted : 1 Nov, 2013 09:29 AM

Do I have preferences? Of course, I do. Do I turn my personal preferences into some kind of ethical standard and force prospective mates to adhere to those standards? No, I do not.



It seems many here are incapable of making distinctions on so many issues as you have just shown.



Funnier still is how grossly theologically flawed the majority of the folks here are -- as in believing in, following, and promoting abject heresies. Yet, concerning themselves with superficial trivialities when "mate shopping". :laugh:

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Posted : 1 Nov, 2013 09:39 AM

Yes, sir, it strikes me this way... I myself have no affinity for liquor as I dislike the taste. I will drink a glass of wine at a toast to join in, but I can take it or leave it.

There are some who have alcoholism In their family, and some who have seen it destroy lives in extreme cases. It just occurred to me if I had any idea I could have a negative effect on a loved one, or even a stranger by exercising Christian liberties I personally feel entitled to that I would never touch the stuff.

But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, self-control.

Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law. - Galatians 5:22-23

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Posted : 1 Nov, 2013 09:44 AM

You tell 'im, IWalkAlone, rah rah shish boom bah!

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Posted : 1 Nov, 2013 09:48 AM

You tell 'im, IWalkAlone, rah rah shish boom bah!

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Posted : 1 Nov, 2013 10:08 AM

Ms. Blue Eyes,



You would be correct to apply the principle in that way. If alcohol will cause offense to someone else, we should have the charity to abstain from it for their sakes.



Notice though, that the Bible make reference to the "one who is weak". This is a person who does not understand the liberties that believers have. They are not mature in the faith. One who is weak thinks ________.



Here in this thread, we have examples of folks claiming to be in the faith 30+ years and still believe having a drink socially is not Biblical. Ugh. That is weak and immature anyway that you slice it. However, that really isn't the problem. The problem is when they try to impose their weakness on other believers and assert their own weakness as some kind of higher ethical standard derived from Scripture. Should someone else feel condemned or rejected because they are being judged by a "standard" that is NOT a Biblical standard in the first place? No, they should not.



Further, should someone "feel" as though they are compromising their "standards" for communicating with a believer who drinks socially? No, they should not since the Bible makes no law against social drinking. (in moderation). Jesus himself drank wine socially. This is a recorded Biblical fact.



This is why it is important to walk by faith and not to have our consciences bound to the legalism of other "believers". We should also be very careful not to bind the conscience of another believer unnecessarily.

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Posted : 1 Nov, 2013 02:34 PM

IWA you seem to miss the point of this thread. it's not about if drinking is right or wrong. :rolleyes:



If someone is not comfortable with it then why would you force them to be.

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Posted : 1 Nov, 2013 03:02 PM

Force: strength or power exerted upon an object; physical coercion; violence.



Thanks for your .02 cents George. :laugh:

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