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In a 1st messagePosted : 20 Apr, 2010 07:21 PMWhat's wrong with saying 'So how's it going?' or something to the equivalent of that in a first message? |
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In a 1st messagePosted : 21 Apr, 2010 06:40 AMbcp that is a really kool new pic. pixy your pic is cute too. |
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Tulip89
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In a 1st messagePosted : 21 Apr, 2010 09:57 AMCome on Remp. If you want a girl to be interested in you, you have to be interesting. |
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In a 1st messagePosted : 21 Apr, 2010 12:33 PM"I mean why do girls expect the guy to be upfront and come off as interesting, and share about themselves, when they're absolutely unwilling to make any kind of effort whatsoever in any of that, and then wonder why they can't find a good guy?" |
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In a 1st messagePosted : 21 Apr, 2010 01:21 PMAll I look for is mutual appreciation, reporte, and reciprocation. a conversation with 2 sides that gives me something to respond to as well. if that's being a bad leader then i guess i'm doomed. |
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In a 1st messagePosted : 21 Apr, 2010 01:46 PMJust be yourself Remp.... |
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DontHitThatMark
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In a 1st messagePosted : 21 Apr, 2010 03:11 PMYeah....all the leader stuff is about "spiritual" things and for when you're married....and while it's important to know if a guy can lead...I don't think it should be a requirement to talk to another human. It might make more sense to throw him a bone and see if he takes the initiative. It's hard to be a leader with nothing to go on. Being a leader is about trust, and trust takes awhile to build. I think remp is saying he wants the leadership/trust to come naturally whilst building a friendship, and not to be disqualified right away for a simple email...like you have to be awesome right away... |
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In a 1st messagePosted : 21 Apr, 2010 03:47 PMI'm not saying I would disqualify a guy immediately... more just explaining what would be going through my head... If he was friendly, I would probably still try to get to know him, and would be looking for other opportunities to assess his leadership potential. |
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Tulip89
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In a 1st messagePosted : 21 Apr, 2010 04:45 PMWhy would you be anything other than awesome at all times? |
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In a 1st messagePosted : 21 Apr, 2010 05:41 PMBecause it is not specific enough, Remp. You could be sending out those messages to the first 20 ladies you clicked on. How do I know you even read what I had to say and are interested in ME - myself - as a person? It is too general. |
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In a 1st messagePosted : 22 Apr, 2010 12:01 PMi guess the only other thing i have to say on this is that everybody is aware that 'hey how's it going?' has two meanings, right? either an acknowledgement and greeting when you encounter that person and/or really asking how they are, what's new, anything they want to share. and since this is a dating website which meaning is more likely to be expressed? the one where they just say the equivalent of hi and nothing else, or the one where they ask a little bit about yourself, generate feedback, and conversation ensues. now i understand and for the most part agree that a little more should be said now that i see it from your perspective. just explaining the otherside of the coin now. when somebody says that, it's not because they're shy, a bad leader, uninteresting, or anything else, it's because it's more natural. but, again, i agree a little more should be said, but you don't have to go to the other extreme with the first message, where the other end of the spectrum being that you're just trying too hard to get a response (by being funny, or saying or explaining too much, being too honest, etc.) and just come off as an idiot when in reality you're a perfectly nice young man that just doesn't know how to get responses on the first message, or what they want to hear, or are looking for, or are like, or how they communicate. i still think it's a little unfair (to both sides) how girls will reject a guy without even giving him a chance though. |
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