Author	Thread: Do nice guys generally finish last?
ArtisticInIowa View Profile History	Do nice guys generally finish last? Posted : 6 Feb, 2012 08:04 AM Okay ladies, this is probably a dumb question to begin with. I'm just curious, but why does it seem like the nice guys generally finish last? The only reason I ask is because that is what it feels like most days. Maybe it's because they don't believe I have a backbone, although it seems for the majority that they think there is a hitch.... You know...."Hey you're a really nice guy, but if I met you I'm afraid you'd be completely different." My recent question I was asked in regards to my divorce. I guess if I'm divorced it means that we both had issues, which negates the fact that I'm a nice guy due to the fact that I am divorced. My ex divorced me because she said she didn't love me anymore, didn't want to try to work it out and in the long run wasn't too happy with my quite controlling father. I didn't think it was to much to ask for a chance, but it's odd that I seem to get a "there's got to be a hitch somewhere" with the majority of women I speak to. Yes, I am real. Yes, I would give the coat off my back to someone who was cold, or the food off my plate if someone was hungry. I strive to be like Christ on a daily basis and am happy with the man I am. There is no hidden agenda, just a man who wants to find a woman who shares similar interests and wants to be happy and in love for the rest of their life. Thanks for any and all answers... Matt Post Reply
View Profile History	Do nice guys generally finish last? Posted : 8 Feb, 2012 05:47 AM Right, except I said "alpha male" and not "abusive jerk." Relevant: http://www.themodernman.com/how_to_become_an_alpha_male.html More relevant: https://guidetowomen.wordpress.com/2012/01/23/how-to-be-an-alpha-male-part-2/ And honestly, if a guy is beating a girl senseless? He doesn't have it. It isn't the antithesis of being "nice" as a general trait. Y'all better be "nice", if by nice you mean polite and well-mannered and friendly. But if your goal in life is to be nice, then... that's just kind of mediocre. It doesn't even mean you have to fit some kind of extroverted, outgoing stereotype - but be confident and know yourself and be your best version of yourself. Own it. Post Reply
View Profile History	Do nice guys generally finish last? Posted : 8 Feb, 2012 11:11 AM Godsgirl23 is right. The girls have always dreamed of their 'knights in shining armour' to come and sweep them off their feet. They are looking for a godly MAN, someone confident in who he is in God and himself. They are not looking for kidults or 'nice guys'. To them nice guys are passive and subconscious emotional people - however just to add, I am also probably just a nice guy too. Girls tell us that we men should stop dreaming about the perfect girl, but in saying this; women please stop dreaming about the perfect guy. Post Reply
View Profile History	Do nice guys generally finish last? Posted : 8 Feb, 2012 03:00 PM :laugh: oh I miss reading sites like that. It's hillarious how the guy writing it thinks he's some kind of magical wizard. Especially when all they literally have to say is don't care about what women think. Once you get over that hump you'll see there really isn't that much to enjoy in most women. There's always some physical flaw that takes a while to get used to, she isn't really that interesting or cool or funny and you start wondering why you even bothered. But that's what dating is, meeting people till you find the right one. And @Dynasty: Right on. Solid. Post Reply
View Profile History	Do nice guys generally finish last? Posted : 8 Feb, 2012 03:36 PM Thanks godsgirl. That was one of the funniest things Ive ever read. :laugh: Instead of calling them "alpha males" that site should call them misanthropic males. Most of the men who act in the way described in that site have egos so frail, that if ever rejected, it would destroy their whole world view. Its one thing to be self confident, it is quite another to think the world revolves around you. Wow, that was funny. LOL That reminds me of some of those "How to pick up chicks" ads I use to see in magazines. LOL!!! Post Reply
View Profile History	Do nice guys generally finish last? Posted : 8 Feb, 2012 04:56 PM I honestly HATE knight/medieval imagery. And while you all may want to explain it away, I've known countless people who exemplify this. It isn't some unattainable perfection. Confident? Have a job? Going after what you want in life? Don't need me to validate you? That's all I ask. Post Reply
View Profile History	Do nice guys generally finish last? Posted : 9 Feb, 2012 01:18 AM Well what analogy is better than 'knight in shining armour'? 'Arnold Schwarznagger screaming: "look at my guns!" while skydiving down to sweep you off your feet'? Come on! Why so negative? Not very nice - then again you don't like 'nice'... no offense. Post Reply
View Profile History	Do nice guys generally finish last? Posted : 9 Feb, 2012 03:27 AM @DJ. Maybe she wants you to go back even deeper into the past. Guy with a club, hit on the head, and dragged to a cave. You agreed with her, and she managed to find fault even with that. She is under the mistaken impression that just because someone is nice, they arent "manly". Im from the South. I open doors for women. Tip my hat. Say "please", "Thank you", "Ma'am" and "Sir". Its called being a Christian gentleman, but to women like her, youre a doormat if you have manners and treat women with respect. Post Reply
View Profile History	Do nice guys generally finish last? Posted : 9 Feb, 2012 03:51 AM I think whether you do nice things or mean things has little if not any bearing on whether you're an alpha male or not. Which I think is where so much freakin' confusion and miscommunication comes from. Overall I get what godsgirl is saying (with the exception of the annoying pick up websites) and don't think it's unreasonable or confusing. You don't have to be an arrogant, obnoxious, disrespectful, narcissistic, self-promoting, bully who walks on top of people and needs to tear others down to make themselves look and feel good to be an alpha male and thus get the girl. Post Reply
View Profile History	Do nice guys generally finish last? Posted : 9 Feb, 2012 03:52 AM Correct me if I'm wrong though. Post Reply
View Profile History	Do nice guys generally finish last? Posted : 9 Feb, 2012 04:12 AM For the most part, when people think of an "alpha male" they think of the sucessful businessman or the "school jock", men like that. You know, guys that "climb to the top". The problem is, in reality, these guys climb to the top by stepping on others. They are the "arrogant jerks" she spoke of. I took exception to her discription of "nice guys" as doormats because I am a nice guy, but Im certainly not a doormat. Post Reply

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